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Anyone for capital punishment? Its when you make your prisoners do hard working labor, like mining, farming, and other jobs that can earn the government a lot of money. I am sorry if this topic came up before, but I think Capital Punishment is a win-win chance.

Anyone for capital punishment? Its when you make your prisoners do hard working labor, like mining, farming, and other jobs that can earn the government a lot of money. I am sorry if this topic came up before, but I think Capital Punishment is a win-win chance.

"Capital Punishment", as the term is commonly used, is another name for teh death penalty. It's when you execute someone for the crimes they committed.

What you describe is called "Forced Labor".

I hope this clears up any misunderstanding.

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Also, there is already an national issue which handles the idea of forced labour amoung other things, giving it as an option amoung with two or three others in regards to crminal punishment.

Just so you know, :wink:

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indeed Capital punishment is the death penalty, and i think u mean community service, in sorts.

I voted no, as i dont trust u politicians. U say one thing and mean another, however i proposal for legislation for community service could be an idea, due to the serious lack of prisons in my country. Does anyone want any criminals?

ThEg National

Capital punishment should only be used in a few cases. I like the idea of forced labor only if they are criminals. Otherwise you might as welll call it slavery. Make the wrongdoers work their time, instead of eating, sleeping, and watching cable in their little cells. It would be good prison reform. Not if you want to reform the prisoners, but it would help the economy, etc. I say we do forced criminal labor along with a small educational program in prisons. Maybe a loop tape of sugar-sweet smiling people wh aren't commiting crime.
That'll make 'em stop. Good luck with the socialists, though.

Dictator LG

I think you're misunderstanding the definition Calssical Rome, and others have given you the correct definition.

I personallly don't believe inn capital punishment. The chances of errors are too great.

I'm for it because it is the only punishment that puts the offender on the same level as the victim, of course every means available should be made to prove the individuals innocence and with such things as DNA evidence it is getting easier to do.

But I wanted to clarify why I believe in Capital Punishment. As I said, it puts the offender at the same level as the victim. Think about what that means.
The offender can look out at the sky and see a sunrise. The Offender can still enjoy the taste of food. The offender can still listen to music. The offender can still enjoy the touch of the world around him.

Most important of all the offender can have hope. He can live and wait and in time feelings and attitudes may change and he will be released. Society goes that way, there was little protest about this over fifty years ago but now it is a central topic and is being banned more and more in the world. So an offender now may sit in a cell but in his heart he will always have hope that he will live and eventually be released.

The victim has no choice about anything anymore, his is dead and then forgotten. You see its not a matter of revenge rather a matter of maintaining the equality of justice.

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Sorry. I was saying I agreed with capital punishment and then I said why I agreed with forced labor.

I agree with Banga da Bongo. Use DNA to prove, and what not(some research on a good truth test couldn't hurt either) Until the rate of success is high. Then start killing those who robbed the innocent of their lives. Otherwise you almost reward those who desroyed someones choice with choice. Why, besides inacuracy and the taking of a stained human life is this so bad?

Dictator LG

Sorry. I was saying I agreed with capital punishment and then I said why I agreed with forced labor.

I agree with Banga da Bongo. Use DNA to prove, and what not(some research on a good truth test couldn't hurt either) Until the rate of success is high. Then start killing those who robbed the innocent of their lives. Otherwise you almost reward those who desroyed someones choice with choice. Why, besides inacuracy and the taking of a stained human life is this so bad?

Dictator LG

Sorry. I was saying I agreed with capital punishment and then I said why I agreed with forced labor.

I agree with Banga da Bongo. Use DNA to prove, and what not(some research on a good truth test couldn't hurt either) Until the rate of success is high. Then start killing those who robbed the innocent of their lives. Otherwise you almost reward those who desroyed someones choice with choice. Why, besides inacuracy and the taking of a stained human life is this so bad?

Dictator LG

it is the only punishment that puts the offender on the same level as the victim

Thus placing the punisher on the same level as the offender. And since a democratic government is essentially acting on behalf of society, every time capital punishmnet is used by a government it makes every member of that society a party to a killing.

it is the only punishment that puts the offender on the same level as the victim

Thus placing the punisher on the same level as the offender. And since a democratic government is essentially acting on behalf of society, every time capital punishmnet is used by a government it makes every member of that society a party to a killing.

No, it makes every member of that society responsible for maintaining equal justice under the law. If you look at it your way, the victim is less valuable then the murderer who now has a greater right to life because he has murdered Society is not party to a killing, it is holding up its responsibility in maintaining equality. The murderer is responisble for his crime and his punishment alone. . Justice can not be more or less for people, it must be equal.

I'm always absolutely amazed how people can fight to the core about a killers rights but never never once think or mention the victims loss of Right of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

While I'm at it I want to clarify something. I also believe society has an obligation to rehabilitate people and just not lock them away as we do today and throw away the key. Prison should be a way for a criminal to redeem and reform himself, to learn of all his options in life and then be released. I think it is a tragic waste of life to simply catagorize everyone as expendable.