NationStates Jolt Archive


OHMS: 40 hour work week proposal - statement by the PM

Austica
23-05-2004, 03:36
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DEPARTMENT OF PRIME MINISTER & CABINET

**OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE PRIME MINISTER**

After lengthy debates in the Austican Parliament, it has been decided that Austica will not implement this resolution, even if it is endorsed and carried.

The Kingdom of Austica is a part of the United Nations, so that we can come up with proposals that will better society and people worldwide. This proposal does neither. It it discriminates against the employer whilst lining workers pockets. Of course many workers deserve more, however at the same time they will not get more, unless the employer can pay them.

Implementing this bill in Austica would cause a meltdown of the nation's financial and economic infrastructure, and would lead to a depression of a great scale. This would not be benificial. Employers will be unable to afford to keep workers on, and will be forced to close down. Workers will be out of work. Business' and corporations will no longer operate. This would be disastrous, and would not further the rights of anybody - rather it would destroy lives

The Kingdom of Austica accepts the powers of the UN, however it will not give up its soveriegnty to the UN, to allow it to destroy our nations economy, which woul invariably destroy Austican lives.

If this bill passes, the Kingdom of Austica urges all nations opposing it to boycott it, and to carry on regardless. We will not declare a state of emergency - we just will not implement the bill full stop.

By His Majesty's Command

Sir John Grey

Prime Minister


GOD SAVE THE KING!
Inizi
23-05-2004, 03:46
you can do this? :?:
23-05-2004, 03:53
I would love this if it were possible :D

-m
Austica
23-05-2004, 03:54
I don't think that it has ever been done before, however, I am not prepared to see my nation go down the gurgler, because the UN wants me to implement their policy.

We have the sovereign power to implement and repeal laws in our nation. When the compliance ministry implements the law, the Parliament of Austica, will swiftly repeal the law.

It has to be remembered, that just because we are a member of the UN - we should not be required to give up our legislative powers to the UN. If this is the case, then there would be no purpose in governing - the UN would do it for us.

Austica will stand by it's decision not to implement the bill - even if it is carried by the UN, and we refuse to resign as a member

Austica's position is now policy, and has been set down on the Government's Press Release website at:

http://www.freewebs.com/austicangovernment/pressreleases.htm
Inizi
23-05-2004, 04:01
I would love this if it were possible :D

-m

Game mods please ignore that nation, it is just one of my friends trying to get me introuble by making it look like I have 2 nations.
1 Infinite Loop
23-05-2004, 04:10
if you guys can get Francos or Lady Rebels to vote against it then it will be defeated.
Austica
23-05-2004, 05:06
bump!

The clock is ticking!
Husitan
23-05-2004, 05:10
"Game mods please ignore that nation, it is just one of my friends trying to get me introuble by making it look like I have 2 nations."
TWO nations aren't allowed??? Guess I should read better oh well i guess im going back to one. But nyways if this resolution is forced on me ill withdraw from the Un. My people depend on a stong business sector and if it gets hit like this then it will ruin my country.
Flibbleites
23-05-2004, 06:10
Austica, the only way you will be able to do that is if you leave the UN before the voting is completed and then come back afterwards, otherwise your compliance ministry will automatically bring you into compliance with the resolution.

Bob Flibble
UN Rep.
Rogue Nation of Flibbleites
Austica
23-05-2004, 08:29
Mr Flibble,

The Attorney General's Department has determined that we can in fact do this without leaving the United Nations.

Once the Compliance Ministry enacts the legislation, the Parliament will swiftly move to repeal the legislation in our nation, thus rendering it ineffective in Austica.

Thank you for your letter

Sir John Grey
Prime Minister
Ilcaris
23-05-2004, 21:36
Mr Flibble,

The Attorney General's Department has determined that we can in fact do this without leaving the United Nations.

Once the Compliance Ministry enacts the legislation, the Parliament will swiftly move to repeal the legislation in our nation, thus rendering it ineffective in Austica.

Thank you for your letter

Sir John Grey
Prime Minister

The Ilcarisian Goverment feels obliged to let you know that your Attorney General's Department is wrong. We advise Austica to train better legal experts on international law. It seems that those which Austica currently employs lack basic understanding of the United Nations' Resolution giving powers.

One cannot withdraw from signed treaties with out severe ramifications (read: inational sanctions).

Though the Emirate of Ilcaris shares Austica's feelings on this resolution: it is a majour mistake, we do not share austica's uliteral interpritation of International Law. When you are a member of the United Nations, one must comply with its regulations, else finding oneself targeted by the rest of the International Community, or simply thrown out of the body.

Just as Ilcais feels that the United Nations should not so heavily infrigne on national souveregnity, so we also must point out that the United Nations cannot oblige individual members to flaunt its resolutions, once passed. There are no pick and chose; if the resolutions themselves grant loopholes (such as the last one did), then use those. If they do not, then you have no choice but to follow those resolutions.

We find Austica's contemptious attitude towards International Law disturbing.


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Signed
Lord Belh
Secretary of State
Heimlichsburg
23-05-2004, 22:38
We believe that Austica is well within her rights of duty to protect her nation. In fact, her movement is sheer brilliance! We of the Grand Dutchy of Heimlichsburg second and support Austica in this as we too shall have our economic way of life thrown out into the gutter by this mindless law. And contempetion to international law? Much of it impeeds progress.
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Signed
Duke Adek Martok von Heimlichsburg
Rehochipe
23-05-2004, 22:42
Simple game mechanics, buddy. UN law supersedes the law of the land and is unrepealable.
Kybernetia
23-05-2004, 23:21
"Simple game mechanics, buddy. UN law supersedes the law of the land and is unrepealable"
That may be true, but there is an amount of disgreacion which any nation state has in the implementation of resolution. This resolution opens in our view many opportunities to avoid an implementation of it.

We are therefore explaining our legal position:
"Nations shall enact the laws needed to comply with the 40 hour week within 1 year of the passing of this resolution" - we will not enact laws within until the end of this period

"and they may phase in the changes over the course of up to 4 years" -
we are going to phase out the regulations for the complete period of four years.

"7. In time of declared emergencies the national government may suspend this directive to any sector of the workforce it deems essential to the effective running of the country for the duration of that emergency."

It is the right of the sovereign nation state to declare a state of emergency. We are going to do that under refrence to avoid an economic desaster for our country. We are notifying the UN that we are going to do that when the other options the resolution has given us have phased out. For the next five years there are not going to be any changes in our valid laws. And after that we are going to declare a state of emergency.
Therefore we are not going to implement a 40-hour-week.

Sincerely yours

Marc Smith, president of Kybernetia, founder of the region Futura
New Bucks Head
23-05-2004, 23:26
The Rogue Nation of the New Bucks Head, also stands behind our under fire allies from Austica. It's a brave move, and a move that should implement a second vote.

We need a second resolution offering UN nations an "opt-out" from this cruel ruling.
Rehochipe
23-05-2004, 23:26
A permanent state of emergency? I'm sure your populace will be thrilled to bits.
CSW
23-05-2004, 23:33
Stop whining, we moved up slightly in industrial power, thank you very much.
Kybernetia
24-05-2004, 00:38
Kybernetia
24-05-2004, 00:49
@honorouble Senator of Rehochipe

"A permanent state of emergency?"
We would of course limit the state of emergency to the economic sector. Our legal argument is that this resolution being implemented would cripple our economy in its present stage of development. We are a young and growing nation and we need therefore flexible rules. Our population is only 23 million and thus to small to have enough workers to reduce the working time which is currently 48-60 hours (6-day-week).
An implementation of this resolution would bring our economic progress, development and well-being at stake. Political and social riots could be the consequences. Therefore we are declaring a state of emergency up until the time our nations population exceeds 1 Billion.

Sincerely yours

Marc Smith, president of Kybernetia
Komokom
24-05-2004, 02:42
* Is physically retrained from braining several national " represent - i " with a large cast iron frying-pan. A - very - large one.

:roll:

- The Rep of Komokom, RMoS.

I can't believe I left my sig. stuff at home. Grrr. :wink:
Islands and Cities
24-05-2004, 03:07
Polls have just closed in Islands and Cities and 99% of the populace has voted Islands and Cities into an indefinite state of emergency and all jobs within Islands and Cities are now 'critical to the government' and will not be shut down. Polls have been set for tomorrow to commence an election on whether to remain in the UN or to withdrawl.

President Lunphi
New Philadelphia
The Federation of Islands and Cities
Former Sovatecan Empire