NationStates Jolt Archive

Its getting to a point where 6% of the vote for a proposal, is too many votes. Although it seems like nothing, because it is nothing, there are too many people on the UN not doing anything, therefore no proposals can get enough votes to move on to a resolution. My proposal is for people who are not active within 30 days lose UN status, in order to keep the people really playing able to make decisions.

His Holiness the Governor-General offers minor disagreement.

His Holiness believes far too many nations are participating, in so much as that word can be defined as voting on a resolution without even bothering to read it. Many proposals passed 3:1, with almost the entire United Nations attending vote, but barely a score of voices were heard in the debate.

His Holiness asserts %6 may actually be too low, and the best way to combat what is commonly called `sheep voting' is to increase the requisite quroum for proposal proceedings, which will increase the quality of the proposals eligible for the General Assembly's ballot.

His Holiness understands being a voice of dissention may not endear The Dominion of North East Cathanistan to The United States of ShredsofMetal, but hopes altruistic attitudes will prevail.

[signed]
The Bishop Fred al-Rubei of The Directorate of Foreign Relations of The Dominion of North East Cathanistan

"My proposal is for people who are not active within 30 days lose UN status, in order to keep the people really playing able to make decisions."

I disagree with this on the basis that voting or not is not a true indication of whether or not people are playing. However I agree that something should be done to increase the accuracy of the vote. what if the voting system was based more on a representative system similar to the real United States.

my first proposal is that UN members of regions hold periodic elections for a representative to cast their vote for that region

my alternate proposal is that a un voting system be averaged per region to improve the percentage weight of the vote.

His Holiness asserts %6 may actually be too low, and the best way to combat what is commonly called `sheep voting' is to increase the requisite quroum for proposal proceedings, which will increase the quality of the proposals eligible for the General Assembly's ballot.

In our experience, the key factor to determining whether or not a proposal makes it to the floor is whether or not the nation who submitted it has a large staff of people dedicated to sending out memos to all the delegates they can track down. Raising the number of approvals necessary will result in proposals only coming from those nations willing to dedicate more time to licking stamps for their form letters.

A better system might be to institute an intermediate step between delegate approvals and general voting. After a proposal gained enough delegate support - we would recommend a reasonable fixed number - it would go for a week of regional delegate voting. Proposals that got a majority of the particpating delegate votes in favor would then be passed on to the UN Assembly for a final vote. This would give active delegates an extra amount of say so that they aren't always overrun by delegates who call in votes from their beach houses, and give extra incentive to regional delegates to become more involved in the UN.

(unfortunately this would be a fairly major game mechanics overhaul - hmm, maybe i should take a walk over to the ns2 forum...)

His Holiness asserts %6 may actually be too low, and the best way to combat what is commonly called `sheep voting' is to increase the requisite quroum for proposal proceedings, which will increase the quality of the proposals eligible for the General Assembly's ballot.

In our experience, the key factor to determining whether or not a proposal makes it to the floor is whether or not the nation who submitted it has a large staff of people dedicated to sending out memos to all the delegates they can track down. Raising the number of approvals necessary will result in proposals only coming from those nations willing to dedicate more time to licking stamps for their form letters.

A better system might be to institute an intermediate step between delegate approvals and general voting. After a proposal gained enough delegate support - we would recommend a reasonable fixed number - it would go for a week of regional delegate voting. Proposals that got a majority of the particpating delegate votes in favor would then be passed on to the UN Assembly for a final vote. This would give active delegates an extra amount of say so that they aren't always overrun by delegates who call in votes from their beach houses, and give extra incentive to regional delegates to become more involved in the UN.

(unfortunately this would be a fairly major game mechanics overhaul - hmm, maybe i should take a walk over to the ns2 forum...)

The Brilliant Sanctified Empire of Fieldism fully supports this idea.