NationStates Jolt Archive


Ban on Child Sex Tourism (draft proposal)

Palandra
06-05-2004, 20:35
Here is a draft proposal for your discussion about child sex tourism. Please look it over for your consideration :!:

Description: Whereas the child sex industry is an assault on human rights;
Whereas the citizens of many nations travel to other countries with the intent to engage in the sex industry;
Whereas the home country cannot prosecute the offenders, and the destination country is unwilling to combat this problem,

Therefore, the country of Palandra asks that it be resolved:
1. The child sex trade will be declared a crime against humanity by the standards of international law.
2. Countries will be permitted to prosecute their citizens for offenses committed in other countries.
3. Countries unwilling to prosecute offenders will be sanctioned and punished by international law.
4. The UN shall do all in its power to help the victims of this terrible crime.


Approvals: 29 (Bursledon, Yehosh, Lamoni, Bhagavan, Atlantic Quays, Whats Left, Hovin, Blamgolia, Franopia, America the American, Luftjagger, Melmond, N-SIGN, Enripta, The Christian South, Grointium, Horizontally wide, Borgonzolia, Eelopia, Concerted Socialists, Liversausage, Elvandair, Francos Spain, Prasq, Meerkatea, Bakrak, Mainland pride, Balls Baugh, Monopolosis)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 124 more approvals)
Saragon
06-05-2004, 20:50
There is a big loophole in your proposal. Since it doesn't define a child, any nation could simply make the age of adulthood 5, if they wanted to get around it.

From the desk of President Annette Viren: Iverness, Saragon.
Pavia
06-05-2004, 23:57
It should be expanded to include use of the internet, child pornography, and child trafficking.
07-05-2004, 00:36
CALLING ALL NOOBS!

Read the past resolutions before making new ones.

Outlaw Pedophilia
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.
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Category: Moral Decency Strength: Mild Proposed by: Goobergunchia
Description: RESOLVED, That the act of sexual molestation of a pre-pubescent minor is hereby outlawed in all UN member nations.
Votes For: 11739
Votes Against: 1363
Implemented: Fri Jul 18 2003

The Child Protection Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
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Category: Human Rights Strength: Significant Proposed by: Stephistan
Description: Considering that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the Charter of the United Nations, recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world, Bearing in mind that the peoples of the United Nations have, in the Charter, reaffirmed their faith in fundamental human rights and in the dignity and worth of the human person, and have determined to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom, Recognizing that the United Nations has, in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and in the International Covenants on Human Rights, proclaimed and agreed that everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth therein, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status, Recalling that, in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the United Nations has proclaimed that childhood is entitled to special care and assistance,
ARTICLE 1 For the purposes of the present resolution, a minor means every human being below the age of eighteen years unless, under the law applicable to the minor, majority is attained earlier.
ARTICLE 2
1. States Parties shall take all appropriate legislative, administrative, social and educational measures to protect the minor from all forms of physical or mental violence, injury or abuse, neglect or negligent treatment, maltreatment or exploitation, including sexual abuse, while in the care of parent(s), legal guardian(s)d or any other person(s)
2. States Parties shall respect and ensure the rights set forth in the present resolution to each minor within their jurisdiction without discrimination of any kind, irrespective of the minor's or his or her parent's or legal guardian's race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national, ethnic or social origin, property, disability, birth or other status.
3. States Parties shall take all appropriate measures to ensure that the minor is protected against all forms of discrimination or punishment on the basis of the status, activities, expressed opinions, or beliefs of the minor's parents, legal guardians, or family members.

ARTICLE 3
1. In all actions concerning minors, whether undertaken by public or private social welfare institutions, courts of law, administrative authorities or legislative bodies, the best interests of the minor shall be a primary consideration.
2. States Parties undertake to ensure the minor such protection and care as is necessary for his or her well-being, taking into account the rights and duties of his or her parents, legal guardians, or other individuals legally responsible for him or her, and, to this end, shall take all appropriate legislative and administrative measures.
3. States Parties shall ensure that the institutions, services and facilities responsible for the care or protection of minors shall conform with the standards established by competent authorities, particularly in the areas of safety, health, in the number and suitability of their staff, as well as competent supervision.
ARTICLE 4 Nothing in the present resolution shall affect any provisions which are more conducive to the realization of the rights of the minor and which may be contained in:
(a) The law of a State Party; or
(b) International law in force for that State.

Votes For: 11621
Votes Against: 2538
Implemented: Sat Aug 2 2003

I'm not saying this was a bad idea, I'm saying that there are measures already in place.
Greenskinz
07-05-2004, 00:50
A-HA! Loophole!


ARTICLE 1 For the purposes of the present resolution, a minor means every human being below the age of eighteen years unless, under the law applicable to the minor, majority is attained earlier.


This resolution doesn't prohibit the prositution of children of other species, such as elves. I think I just found a new revenue source...
Palandra
07-05-2004, 01:06
Palandra
07-05-2004, 01:06
Pavia wrote:
"It should be expanded to include use of the internet, child pornography, and child trafficking."

Yes, I agree. Measures in the future will be taken against these issues.

As for Aeolian, I would argue that the Resolution quoted is a good resolution, but may have suffered due to the recent passage of a resolution to legalize prostitution. The legalization of prostitution legitmates the sex trade industry in an unprecedented way and undermines a good portion of protections in place to protect children. Suddenly prostitution is no longer "sexual exploitation" but rather a legitmate business enteprise in which the minor is merely participating in. (Yes, you could then counter that minors have no such capacity to enter contracts, but I feel there are enough loopholes in those arguments as well).

The intent of the resolution is to specifically target the child sex industry which is a hideous evil that needs to be dealt with.

As for Greenskinz, if you find any elves, let me know...

Palandra
Chaotic Gnomes
07-05-2004, 07:03
How quick we are to put our moral standards on others. Just because the society you were raised in had a screwed up view on sex why should other societies? Why is a minor haveing sex such a bad thing? How does a child having sex harm the child in anyway? And why should people not be allowed to pay to have sex with a child? Or have sex with there own children for that matter? Sex is not evil, sex is not immorall. Sex is apart of being a living creature without it we can't reproduce.

Sexual Freedom
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

What goes on between two (or more) consenting adults in the privacy of their homes should not be the concern of the state unless it is neccesary to enquire about the afore mentioned activities for medical reasons (e.g. if the individuals wish to give blood etc.).

This resulution already clearly states that the state can't interfere with sex between two adults. And since the country can set at what age a person is an adult, your suggested resolution would be contradicting this resolution.
07-05-2004, 15:11
5 year olds aren't adults.

"sexual molestation of a pre-pubescent minor"

time to go, I'll finish this later.
Sirocco
07-05-2004, 17:56
Its catergory should be to restrict civil rights in the interest of moral decency.
Rehochipe
07-05-2004, 18:03
Personally, I don't think there's much need to further legislate within the UN, since paedophilia is already clearly illegal under UN law - regardless of prostitution laws. However, what is worth addressing is sex tourism outside the UN. We've no doubt whatsoever that there are non-UN nations that turn a blind eye to this sort of thing, and we'd consider it legitimate for UN nations to be able to punish their citizens for this on their return.

However,
2. Countries will be permitted to prosecute their citizens for offenses committed in other countries.
isn't restricted only to paedophilia, and that's dangerously bad wording. We'd probably support a better-thought-out version of this proposal.
Pavia
07-05-2004, 19:44
5 year olds aren't adults.

"sexual molestation of a pre-pubescent minor"

time to go, I'll finish this later.

Adulthood shouldn't be judged by ability to have children, but rather ability to use discretion. Under that definition a 13 year old could choose to become a prostitute. Clearly a 13 year old can't make such a decision on its own. That definition of child is inadequate, and should be changed to any person being under 18 years of age.
Falange Nerike
08-05-2004, 01:12
Falange Nerike
08-05-2004, 01:12
*Duh* "I'm going to vote NO because I think it's everyone's individual freedom to do whatever they want"

I think my point is made, having a vote on this obvious thing is unnecessary. I don't understand why this wasn't made obligatory for every state entering the UN.

How quick we are to put our moral standards on others. Just because the society you were raised in had a screwed up view on sex why should other societies? Why is a minor haveing sex such a bad thing? How does a child having sex harm the child in anyway? And why should people not be allowed to pay to have sex with a child? Or have sex with there own children for that matter? Sex is not evil, sex is not immorall. Sex is apart of being a living creature without it we can't reproduce.

G'day mr I-wanna-be-cool-and-questions-everything.

1. The options are easy, either way a non-multicultural society (and what is the benefit of that?) OR all UN-members agrees on a common moral standard concerning sexual issues. The state are not controlling the sexuality of people, preventing child abuse and outlaw homosexuality is very far away from each other. It's for the protection of the children.

2. A minor (pre-puberty) having sex is bad because it's not of the minor's world (a non-sexual being) of having sex. Until puberty, children should be let outside of the world of sex.

3. A child/minor having sex has shown harmful by several studies, and young children having sex is often exposed to sexual abuse (because of their weak psychological and physiological state compared to the adult) and I hope you agree with me that abuse is wrong, otherwise you could stress towards the resign-button at once.

4. Do you think it's okey to pay someone to rape another? "Hey, if you pay me X $ I will let you rape my 5 year old cousin". Paying for rape or having sex with children is the same. I hope you were kiddin' on this one, 'cause you can't be serious.

5. Okay, this one really crossed the line. The very fact that you question the wrong of having sex with your own children is just discusting. I hope this is just part of a internet-role that you put on to be cool, but it's just yuck. The biological reason of NOT having sex with your own offsprings, to prevent inbreedings as it have shown that inbred kids are more likely to suffer from diseases. The moral reason, because you're the kid's PARENT and PARENTS DON'T F**K THEIR CHILDREN! That's just the way it is, any other thoughts are SICK AND SHOULD BE SENTENCED WITH DEATH!

Sex is not evil, nor is it immoral. BUT, sex is something between two consenting sexually mature persons and that outrules children. I call for a proposal suggesting death penalty for sexual abuse of children.