NationStates Jolt Archive

Description: Have you ever wondered what it would be like to live in a totally harmonic society? A society where criminals do not exist, and where our nations can only advance?

Well this could become a reality with the Utopium Society Act. What I propose is that we introduce an execution penalty for all those deemed of committing a criminal act. Not only this, but the criminals' bodies can be recycled to feed our animals. The main advantages of this scheme:

- No more crime. People will be too afraid to commit an act of crime, and those who do will be beheaded (this is the cheapest way to execute people).
- No more money wasted on paying for the continued survival of criminals in jail. Instead, we can put it to better use, such as in bettering education, healthcare and social welfare.
- We will save our farmers considerable money, by supplying minced criminal meat to their carnivorous animals. This can also be used commercially to feed house pets, such as dogs.
- Turning previous jails into new facilities, such as shelter for peasants living on the street.

As you can see, there are virtually no disadvantages to this scheme.

There are a few exceptions to the proposal. Those who have committed only petty offences will not be executed, but will be required to do an appropriate amount of community work, such as cleaning the streets, or perhaps military service. We will no longer need jails. Common sense should dictate which offences are to be classified as petty (i.e. minor theft, those committed without any real intent to harm society, disorderly drunken behaviour etc.)

This proposal has the potential to advance our society by untold amounts.

Quite apart from the dubious use of the words 'harmonic' and 'utopium', this proposal really doesn't meet with our approval. We deplore capital punishment and are extremely wary of feeding meat to certain animals - it tends to lead to diseases such as BSE.

It did make me chuckle, though.

Nirgal
Speaker for Agriculture

DP

Quite frankly, that would be a TERRIBLE world to live in. And that's totally besides the fact that I just re-submitted an anti-capital punishment proposal.

Why stop with criminals? Kill all those useless unemployed homeless people, too, and end poverty!

We don't have a crime problem. We don't need prisons. We don't think capital punishment is the act of a humane society.

Then it is your society that is inhumane, not those with capital punishment.

We don't have a crime problem. We don't need prisons. We don't think capital punishment is the act of a humane society.

Then it is your society that is inhumane, not those with capital punishment.

Even I find that statement hard to accept. They're inhumane because they don't kill people?

Why stop with criminals? Kill all those useless unemployed homeless people, too, and end poverty!

This is a good idea. However, it is sometimes difficult to determine which of the homeless bums deserve it and which don't. In any case, we'd get a lot of people protesting if we started killing anyone who doesn't have a home, and I wouldn't want to have to kill them also as we'd soon have no population. I like your thinking style, however.

They're inhumane because they don't kill people who deserve to die.

It was tried before Capilazim took over. The countries were known as the Soviet Union and North Korea. Mass starvations, no freedom of movement, an all pervasive police state, no freedom of expression, no freedom of the press, no freedom of religion, and in the end.... cannibalism occured in N. Korea.

There is no way we would ever look to a "Utopian" model for humans to ever live in. The models do not work, and cannot work because they ignore the basic truth about humans. That truth is some Humans are evil and will be criminals, people are greedy, some people are lazy, some work hard, some are good, some are intelligent, some are not. You cannot fit a utopian model around the amoeba of human behaviors. It will lead to disaster.

Allow people the freedom to pursue their own destinies with the limits of the law... set about to insure everyone elses freedoms.... and society will prosper. To do anything else will lead to problems.

Most criminals are not deterred by thoughts of punishment, because they do not commit crimes with the intention of getting caught and punished.

Unless you can be 100% certain of killing the right person every time, you will have innocent blood on your hands- our hands- as well.

It was tried before Capilazim took over. The countries were known as the Soviet Union and North Korea. Mass starvations, no freedom of movement, an all pervasive police state, no freedom of expression, no freedom of the press, no freedom of religion, and in the end.... cannibalism occured in N. Korea.

Actually, I don't recall North Korea or the Soviet Union instating executions for all criminal offences. Nor do I recall them feeding criminal meat to their animals to save money. Also, the act I propose does not state anything about restrictions imposed on freedom of expression, press or religion.

Those nations starved because of the inefficient communist ruling over them. It had absolutely nothing to do with capital punishment.

I don't know where you get your sources from, Psychotropics, but they are evidently highly inaccurate.

Unless you can be 100% certain of killing the right person every time, you will have innocent blood on your hands- our hands- as well.

As for this: Everybody makes mistakes. It is human nature and an unavoidable aspect of society.

I think this law is quiite good. It will of course have to be classified exactly where petty offences stop and capital ones start. Maybe some jails will have to be kept open for a stage in between capital and petty offences. Like one quite serious burglery etc. There are however all those murderers and mass robbers being kept in jail living off the rest of us that deserve to die. Also it will cut criminal crimes and allow jails to become free. I don't think you can feed human meat to farm animals but dogs yes. Overall a good proposal, i shall support it in the UN.

Maybe we should kill all dysfunctional people, too. Then all the people who have irritated someone at one time or another.

So basically, eradicating humanity would end unhappiness at the expense of a short period of extreme unhappiness.

Not a good idea, in my opinion. A Utopian society eliminates crime by removing the causes of crime, not by eliminating criminals as they come along.