NationStates Jolt Archive

I urge all UN member nations to approve my proposal to convert to the dozenal system. There are a number of advantages to this system, some of which are referred to in the resolution text. If you have any concerns, please ask me here. I do not see any reason why we cannot all approve this resolution now and let it be up to the voters to choose if they want to implement it.

New Septemberland

I've always preferred base six over base twelve, mainly because you can count to 100 (36 in base ten) (or maybe 55 and 35 in base-ten) with two hands. Seems more natural, too. This would also mean that people wouldn't have to learn two new.. digits, numbers, as in baset twelve.

All I can say is that base 12 is perhaps the most natural number system out there. It was used by the ancient Babylonians (that is why there are 12 hours in a day), and is used in the American system of measurements and to an extent in the Britsih monetary sytem.

New Septemberland

It was used by the ancient Babylonians (that is why there are 12 hours in a day), and is used... to an extent in the Britsih monetary sytem.

Not any more... we got rid of all that hideous pounds/shillings/pence rubbish about 30 years ago. It's all shiny and decimalised now, and *boy* does it make counting your cash easier (as in, you no longer need to take weeks/months of lessons at school purely in order to learn how to handle your money...)

I find the decimal system to make far more sense. Aside from the fact we would need to make up several more numbers.

I would support Binary as the best system, why have a £10 note in your pocket when you can have a £1010 note instead!

Everyone would be rich, as all you would need would be £64 to be a millionaire!

Long Live 1 and 0!

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It was used by the ancient Babylonians (that is why there are 12 hours in a day), and is used... to an extent in the Britsih monetary sytem.

Not any more... we got rid of all that hideous pounds/shillings/pence rubbish about 30 years ago. It's all shiny and decimalised now, and *boy* does it make counting your cash easier (as in, you no longer need to take weeks/months of lessons at school purely in order to learn how to handle your money...)

i agree. The decimalised system makes much more sense and is easier to deal with, as it is rounded into mutliples of ten, making it a lot less complicated to count. the binary system of money makes about as much sense as flying pigs, as everying would cost around £1000

Ahh, here it is:

Two Farthings = One Ha'penny. Two Ha'pennies = One penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or a Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea.
The British resisted decimalised currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated.
Source: Good Omens, page 191.

Just thought this would help people steer clear of the system that is being proposed.

Alert,

All U.N. member nations currently use the meteric system, as decreed in the past passed proposal, "Meteric System".

You are proposing in effect a repeal,

Danger ! Danger ! Danger !

Abort operation !

- The Rep of Komokom, RMoS.

The Metric/Decimal System is generally inferior to the dozenal system.

Had you been educated with the dozenal system, it would be much easier for you to understand. Most people have difficulty learning decimals. Mostly because numbers like 1/3 rather than simply being .4 (in dozenal system) are .33333333333333... (in decimal form.)

For those of you who may be confused, the British monetary system was NOT the dozenal system. It did however incorporate a base of 12 in going from pence to shillings.

The fact is that the decimal system is not compatible with nature. We can see this in the failure of the people who invented the metric system (the French) in decimalizing the week, and day.

Lastly, in the Lord of the Rings, Tolkien had the Elves use a base-12 system, and Elves are clearly superior to all other races.

Who is there so ignorant that would not be an Elf?

Frodo lives!

New Septemberland

why not just use hexadecimal?

How is the 'dozenal' system (and I doubt that that is the real term) more 'appropriate' than the decimal system? In fact, how is any numeric system intrinsically better than any other system? If you wish to convert to the dozenal system, go right ahead, but we won't be joining you.

Dozenal is in fact the correct term, although the system is also known as duodecimal. Unfortunately, I cannot simply use whatever measurement system I want becaise of a UN resolution to impose the inferior metric system upon all member nations. If you the UN fails to see why the metric system is inferior and does not apporve my proposal then I will be forced to propose a straight repeal of said resolotuion. This would sadly mean that the people of the world will never know the advantages that come with the dozenal system.

New Septemberland

Or you could just withdraw from the UN and do whatever you want in your own nation!

:twisted:

I really can't believe we're still discussing this. And by we, I mean all of you.

Quite simply - can you not explain why the metric system is 'inferior'? Every base unit is based upon an observable, unchanging fact of nature (except the kilogram, but we won't go into that right now). The Imperial system, on the other hand, is based upon changing things such as the size of the king's foot.

We are not talking about the Imperial system. We are not even talking about changing the base unit. What we are talking about is making it easier to conduct calculations, etc. Those two extra numbers would get rid of many more decimals at the end of a number, thus making calculations in general more accurate.

New Septemberland

Ahh, here it is:

Two Farthings = One Ha'penny. Two Ha'pennies = One penny. Three pennies = A Thrupenny Bit. Two Thrupences = A Sixpence. Two Sixpences = One Shilling, or a Bob. Two Bob = A Florin. One Florin and One Sixpence = Half a Crown. Four Half Crowns = Ten Bob Note. Two Ten Bob Notes = One Pound (or 240 pennies). One Pound and One Shilling = One Guinea.
The British resisted decimalised currency for a long time because they thought it was too complicated.
Source: Good Omens, page 191.

Just thought this would help people steer clear of the system that is being proposed.

Brilliant book :)

If you the UN fails to see why the metric system is inferior and does not apporve my proposal then I will be forced to propose a straight repeal of said resolotuion.

Go ahead and try, but you'll be kicked out of the UN for violating game mechanics.