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Join the UN or be Absorbed...

Boobkakistan
09-04-2004, 23:36
Before this is turned in as a proposal I think a dialogue is in order. Many problems that are World faces comes from those nations outside the UN. How many times do we have to send UN Coalition forces to this country or that country for some little problem that has been blown out of proportion and thrusted upon the World's Stage. Only for us in the UN to have to fix and clean up. Needless energy, time, money and lives are spent to do this each year, yet there is always some country outside the UN to cause some Jihad, border skirmish or civil war yet anew. I for one a humble leader of a great nation grow tired of this happening again and again. Now if these countries would come into the loving arms of the UN, then we as Brothers and Sisters could work out their problems together, before it comes to blows. All nations of this World need to join together for the common good. Many when they hear we the UN are asking them to be one of us will flock to Our Banner. However a small few will not. These will be countries that would like to join if given a chance, but alas their cruel potentate will not allow it. Those few would do harm to their own people and our World. That is something that we the UN could not allow. For the future of our children, and to give them a peaceful place to live, work and love, we will take action. An action that will save all of us. This is a Crusade of the Good and Just, let us all join together and do whats right!!!


Czar Ragnar von Venomish
Boobkakistan
09-04-2004, 23:47
Screw the UN! Death to all Coersive Collectivists who wish to force world wide compliance to their New World Order. I vehemently oppose this enormous One World Government usurpation of individual national perogatives of runing a country. We are proud of our brutal dictatorship and will fight in defense of our benevolent Overlord to the death! NO GREAT SATANS ALLOWED.
09-04-2004, 23:48
I agree with you almost in everything.
But the problem with the UN is that it is only usefull with problems which involves two poor countryes. If there is a problem betwen two powerfull countryes the UN can´t make nothing because its countroled by them (USA, Great Britain, etc), so it can not give them orders. A clear example it is in the USA invation against Irak. The UN told them not to invade, but they (USA) didnt listen to it, and what did the un did???, nothing.... This is not really the UN that I wish for controling my country...
09-04-2004, 23:49
I agree with you almost in everything.
But the problem with the UN is that it is only usefull with problems which involves two poor countryes. If there is a problem betwen two powerfull countryes the UN can´t make nothing because its countroled by them (USA, Great Britain, etc), so it can not give them orders. A clear example it is in the USA invation against Irak. The UN told them not to invade, but they (USA) didnt listen to it, and what did the un did???, nothing.... This is not really the UN that I wish for controling my country...
Iraqi Republican Guard
10-04-2004, 00:07
If this resoution passes (though I don't think it will) we Iraqi Republican Guard will fund an Armed UN Resistence Militia. The purpose of this Militia will be to target any UN soldiers or military equipment occupying our Nation and neighboring Nations as well. Our view toward the UN will be as follows: http://www.libertyartworx.com/STUN.htm
10-04-2004, 00:23
If this resoution passes (though I don't think it will) we Iraqi Republican Guard will fund an Armed UN Resistance Militia. The purpose of this Militia will be to target any UN soldiers or military equipment occupying our Nation and neighboring Nations as well. Our view toward the UN will be as follows: http://www.libertyartworx.com/STUN.htm

The Saudi Royal Family will extensively fund the Armed UN Resistance Militia and allow recruiting and training camps on our soil. Also, we'll end 9,000 soldiers of our brave military forces to fight this Evil Empire of United Nations.
Taliban Regime
10-04-2004, 02:10
Rogues State Arise and confront the unjust tyranny of the UN! We too will fund, train, and send soldiers to fight in the ARM (Armed Resistance Militia) to push any UN troops on "peacekeeping" missions out of our soveign land.

To any nation who helps the UN in their endeavors to enslave the world under their command will not be exempt from ARM's wrath.

To other nations who aid the UN, look at what the United Nations plans on doing to your troops as they have done in the past: http://www.mikenew.com/die.html
Free Fire Zones
10-04-2004, 05:22
"Freehold" by Michael Z. Williamson

The Freeholders vs. The UN. Just what we need around here is a resolution banning the UN from passing any more resolutions!

I'd vote for it.

Unfortuneately, I can't propose it, lacking the necessary endorsements.
:evil:

Emperor Pro-Tem "Big D"
10-04-2004, 22:20
If this passes, I will join this "Giant Government".

I will fund the military with my grateful warriors and extensive weaponry.
10-04-2004, 22:26
I also will join...my militia will aid the UN, as will my policital power.
Katzistanza
11-04-2004, 02:05
ok, 1, this will never pass. 2, there are musch musch more non UN nations than UN nations, and they are not bound by stuff like no nukes and other stuff. It will never pass, and if it does, the UN will lose. So just drop it.
Luciferius
11-04-2004, 02:08
ok, 1, this will never pass. 2, there are musch musch more non UN nations than UN nations, and they are not bound by stuff like no nukes and other stuff. It will never pass, and if it does, the UN will lose. So just drop it.

Agreed. The Republic just left the UN because of crap like this. We will never surrender to the will of the United Nations.
Boobkakistan
11-04-2004, 14:37
ok, 1, this will never pass. 2, there are musch musch more non UN nations than UN nations, and they are not bound by stuff like no nukes and other stuff. It will never pass, and if it does, the UN will lose. So just drop it.

Agreed. The Republic just left the UN because of crap like this. We will never surrender to the will of the United Nations.

Ahh but it can pass. many countries not part of the UN would join when told what we are doing, and the ones who would not clearly show themselves as the evil doers of this World. There countrymen will thank us when those leaders are out of power. This crusade will not loose for it is good and right, bringing the light of justice into the darkness of Tyranny.

I ask countries of the UN that feel strongly on this to come together so we can write this proposal as one. Many of you have great talents in this area and this humble leader of Boobkakistan welcome your voices and ideas to unite us in this cause.

UN for the World.

Czar Ragnar von Venomish
Boobkakistan
11-04-2004, 14:57
ok, 1, this will never pass. 2, there are musch musch more non UN nations than UN nations, and they are not bound by stuff like no nukes and other stuff. It will never pass, and if it does, the UN will lose. So just drop it.

Agreed. The Republic just left the UN because of crap like this. We will never surrender to the will of the United Nations.

Ahh but it can pass. many countries not part of the UN would join when told what we are doing, and the ones who would not clearly show themselves as the evil doers of this World. There countrymen will thank us when those leaders are out of power. This crusade will not loose for it is good and right, bringing the light of justice into the darkness of Tyranny.

I ask countries of the UN that feel strongly on this to come together so we can write this proposal as one. Many of you have great talents in this area and this humble leader of Boobkakistan welcome your voices and ideas to unite us in this cause.

UN for the World.

Czar Ragnar von Venomish
Boobkakistan

First of all, not all non-UN nations are 'evil' dictatorships as you stupidly seem to believe. I am one of them. When you wrote: "bringing the light of justice into the darkness of Tyranny," you seem to feel justified by the idea that you are fighting 'evil.' Nothing wrong with that except when you arrogantly appoint yourself as the 'gaurdian of righteousness' and act as the moral compass for the world by dictating who is 'evil' and who is 'just'...well..you'll just end up as another perpetrator of the same tyranny you puport to be against.

"resolve to find the world evil and ugly, has made the world evil and ugly." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Also, did you think about the fact that there are many UN nations who have puppet non-UN nations? Since the rules are that each person can have only 1 UN nation, This half-thought out resolution would force UN members to watch or partake in War against their own countries.

The UN is supposed to be an organization composed of a number of nations forming an international community or something like that. Stop trying to make the UN a One World Government!
Dimmimar
11-04-2004, 15:38
Go UN. Doesnt this belong in General :?
Baggisti
11-04-2004, 15:48
I say screw the U.N., and I am glad I resigned not too long ago!! Why I ever signed up in the first place is beyond me, damn hallucinogenic drugs!!!

Who is the U.N. to dictate to me how my country and it's people should go about their lives?? And furthermore who is the U.N. to make my country pay millions of dollars to fund every whimsical folly they happen onto?

We as a country are doing just fine without their help, and will continue to do so!
11-04-2004, 16:52
Before this is turned in as a proposal I think a dialogue is in order. Many problems that are World faces comes from those nations outside the UN. How many times do we have to send UN Coalition forces to this country or that country for some little problem that has been blown out of proportion and thrusted upon the World's Stage. Only for us in the UN to have to fix and clean up. Needless energy, time, money and lives are spent to do this each year, yet there is always some country outside the UN to cause some Jihad, border skirmish or civil war yet anew. I for one a humble leader of a great nation grow tired of this happening again and again. Now if these countries would come into the loving arms of the UN, then we as Brothers and Sisters could work out their problems together, before it comes to blows. All nations of this World need to join together for the common good. Many when they hear we the UN are asking them to be one of us will flock to Our Banner. However a small few will not. These will be countries that would like to join if given a chance, but alas their cruel potentate will not allow it. Those few would do harm to their own people and our World. That is something that we the UN could not allow. For the future of our children, and to give them a peaceful place to live, work and love, we will take action. An action that will save all of us. This is a Crusade of the Good and Just, let us all join together and do whats right!!!


Czar Ragnar von Venomish
Boobkakistan
F*** you d***a**. The u.n. absorbing people? You idiot! Do you know how much war and turmoil that would make? It would probably sprout another group of countries with the soul purpose of destroying the united nations!
13-04-2004, 23:10
My country will fight till the end against the UN! and as kerry would say yahhhh!
Luciferius
14-04-2004, 02:38
My country will fight till the end against the UN! and as kerry would say yahhhh!

I believe it was howard dean who made the infamous scream speech.
Skeelzania
14-04-2004, 02:45
Yes, it was Dean who gave the "Crazed Wookie" battlecry (the death knell of his campaign IMO), but lets not turn this into a thread about him. What we really need to concentrate on is: How do dumb, overly zealous peace-through-power lunatics like Boobkakistan get in to the U.N.? ESPECIALLY with a name like his?
14-04-2004, 03:14
*shakes his head in sorrow*

Friends, patriots, and free peoples of the world not yet absorbed by the United Neo-Fascists THIS IS WHAT IS COMING!

Like a giant freedom-hating leach the U.N. grows by bundles each in and day out and, if nutcases like this have thier way, it may soon be all that exists!

*sharpens his bayonet*

Conflict is on the horizon friends... for in the near future the freedom fighters of the world will be engaged in a defensive struggle with the anti-freedom inhuman stormtroopers of the global empire currently know as the "U.N."

Teuber is but a small nation and such a task is not something we can do alone... It is for this reason that we propose a loose association of Free States who refuse to give into the bleak future forseen by Czar Ragnar von Venomish..

(pm me... lets write a resolution! :) )
14-04-2004, 05:04
o yah sry well what ever both are nut cases! yahhhhhhhhhhh!
14-04-2004, 05:38
(From high atop his tower in the castle of Aaaaaahhhhh...., where he subliminally controls the king of Swords 'n' Sorcery, the wizard Devari looks at the pathetic serfs screwing themselves over with "democracy")

Fools, you cannot self govern. Not one of you has the education of millenia of studying the black arts to truly understand the consequences of every insignificant-seeming thing you do. You are all fools. (evil laughter, dragging on for eternities)

By the way, I'll con the king into sending his best knights to the anti-UN militia.
Brazakastan
14-04-2004, 05:59
I myself am a man opposed to UN rule, although I am a part of the organization. Much like the Southern United States prior to the American Civil War, I believe that nations should be loosely tied and not bound to a large political machine. Thus, I still do take part in the efforts of the UN countries who believe the same that I do. I do not agree with international law, but the best way to fight the system is from the inside with calmness and lawfulness. Not the outside with wars, death, and pain.

I hope you all can see, that such a resolution would be ridiculous, but if more of you joined the UN, such measures could surely be voted down by our majority.

Think about it, it makes sense.

-The Confederacy of Brazakastan, Protector of the Absoultional Alliance
Komokom
14-04-2004, 06:20
It took almost all my will power not to write,

:shock: I see stupid people ! :shock:

But I resisted, :wink:

As a fairly common character here, in fact, the most part of my post counter is due to this forum, I have a loose grasp on things, so let me see,

1) This idea can't actually pass as a proposal ...

"Why?" You ask.

Because quite simply it will not work.

The reasons :

A) It quite clearly contains the idea of nations who do not of their own free will join the U.N. will be "absorbed" and it quite clearly hints at force. This is for the first part, against game mechanics, it effectively means you will no longer have the choice of joining the U.N. when you join the game, rather it would make it auto-matic. Ergo, game mechanics, won't work.

And if you submit it, Enodia wil quite literally kill you, or boot you out of here. I pray for the first but more likely expect the second.

B) This would foster an incredible number of "newbie" delegates, rising the number needed to get a proposal to quorum before open voting, meaning, it would be almost impossible to get a proposal onto the floor, let alone through the que. Now I think of it the proposal list would probably be so long, it would be crushed by its own weight... :wink:

In conclusion, this is a whole load of bull your all panicing about. Drop it, it won't happen, for a variety of reasons, the two obvious ones above.

Might I add, the simple ignorance of the idea makes one almost suspect an agitator was at work here with intent. Me-thinks I shall be keeping an open eye to all this, twaddle though it seems on the surface.

- The Rep of Komokom, Minister of Stuff.
Boobkakistan
14-04-2004, 17:35
F*** you d***a**. The u.n. absorbing people? You idiot! Do you know how much war and turmoil that would make? It would probably sprout another group of countries with the soul purpose of destroying the united nations!

Wars are needed at times to clean the land of the filth of evil. If they come together in this time of our Crusade, then they will be crushed under our single boot.
It is time for the nations of the UN to join together in this cause. We have seen the ramblings of the scared children of evil, The cause is just and right. It is time for action, for the peace of our World the must be dealt with. the banner has been raised, let us follow it into a new dawn.

Czar Ragnar von Venomish
Boobkakistan
15-04-2004, 01:29
down with the un!
Komokom
15-04-2004, 03:10
:roll: Why, did I even bother ... :?

- The Rep of Komokom, Region Minister of Stuff.
Of portugal
15-04-2004, 04:01
first smart idea iv heard from u yet
Komokom
15-04-2004, 04:11
Hello Of Portugal, long time no post.

- TRoK, RMoS.

"Grrr, Typo's."
Of portugal
17-04-2004, 02:31
well if u havent come to realize i dont give a crap about typos by now thats sad. considering its a game.
Komokom
17-04-2004, 03:55
No, Of Portugal, I meant * my * typos, I'd been making them all day, and was simly venting. Relax, and be one with your ... Yeah, what-ever.

:)

- The Rep of Komokom.
Of portugal
17-04-2004, 06:24
o oki rly dont care anyway.
Komokom
17-04-2004, 11:47
Hmmm. I am sure you don't.

On a more topic related note, this thread seems to be developing an extremist tint, hmmm, maybe yanking it off to general may be best at this time.

- The Rep of Komokom.