NationStates Jolt Archive

Seeking to unite the nation states and empires of the United Nations in friendly competition.

Guided by the goal to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practiced without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.

Emphasizing a philosophy of life, exalting and combining in a balanced whole the qualities of body, will and mind.

Seeking to create a way of life based on the joy found in effort, the educational value of good example and respect for universal fundamental ethical principles

The United Nations, in Council Assembled,

Resolves to place everywhere sport at the service of the harmonious development of humankind, with a view to encouraging the establishment of a peaceful society concerned with the preservation of human dignity.

Establishes the Olympic Constitution shall govern the organization and operation of the Olympic Movement and stipulate the conditions for the celebration of Olympic Games.

Designates the formation of an International Olympic Forum to encompass organizations, athletes and other persons who agree to be guided by the Olympic Constitution. The International Olympic Forum shall be the supreme authority of the Olympic Movement.

Proclaims that any person belonging in any capacity whatsoever to the Olympic Movement shall be bound by the provisions of the Olympic Constitution and shall abide by the decisions of the International Olympic Forum.

Recognizes that the practice of sport is a basic human right. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport in accordance with her or his own needs.

Recognizes that the practice of sport is a basic human right. Every individual must have the possibility of practicing sport in accordance with her or his own needs.

Excellent proposal, on first read. We'll have a thorough look at it later. The above is the only part that might be a problem - we're not sure that it's appropriate to class sport as a human right... and what if I decide I have a "need" for bare-knuckle boxing or pistol duels with live ammo? Perhaps something like "Celebrates sport as fundamental to personal and social development [for blahblahblah reasons] and urges nations to provide their citizens with the opportunity to practice a wide range of sport".

Sorry it's a bit rushed...busy...

Excellent suggestion, I see your point. I look forward to further comments.

Thank you.

A lot seems to depend upon this constitution. It would be good to have a look at it.
Also how are we going to prevent scandals such as the bribery that led to the selection of Salt Lake City?

I could draft a full constitution but thought that might be a bit much for the proposal.

As for scandals it is nearly impossible to eliminate such things as what happened in Salt Lake. Of course standards and guidelines of conduct befitting the vision of the Olympic Movement would govern the IOF and it's activities. Such specifics would be addressed in the final Olympic Constitution.

I like that idea. Admittedly, as 'Collaboration' said, you would need some method of at least attempting to prevent what happend at Salt Lake City. But that is a pretty minor matter in the whole scheme of it

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I'm not sure about this. The (real) Olympics has not done anything to promote peace in the world. It's just an orgy of nationalism.

Various dictatorships have been supported by the Olympics. Here's the one's I'm thinking of off the top of my head.

1936-Hitler's Germany

1940-Games slated for Japan (moved due to outbreak of WWII; Imperial Japan showed aggressive tendencies as early as 1931)

1968-Mexico (student protestors massacred just a few days before Games).

1980-Soviet Union

1984-This Games was originally going to be given to Shah Pahlavi of Iran, who had a regime famous for human rights abuses.

2008-China


The honorary "president for life" of the (real world) International Olympic Committee, Juan Antonio Samaranch, is a facist who openly supported Gen. Fransico Franco's dictatorship in Spain.


An event based on competition is not going to create cooperation. Many riots have happened due to sporting events, and they only seem to inflame animosity. Let us bond together by creating an event dedicated solely to cooperation. I have recently submitted a proposal for just that.

So put me down as a "NO" to the Olympics.

I find it amusing how you would argue against the formation of such an organization by giving examples of ficticious countries and their ficticious leaders. Really now, if I wanted to make up history I could refute you, but I'll leave that irrelevance to the common squabblers outside. With proper guidance and the right oversights, i.e. a reasonably-sized committee of UN members, these "orgies of nationalism" could be sufficiently avoided to maintain the spirit of the event.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Hitler was also TIME Magazine's Man of the Year... twice I believe. Does that mean we should ban TIME?

The idea behind the Olympics is a noble one. While no one can guarentee it won't turn into a political tool or won't become corrutpted on the inside... It's an endevor I shall support.

In fact, I was planning to submit something like this... you just beat me to it. :P

Sorry about me using (real) countries in analyzing a NationStates Olympics; I just wanted to make an analysis of the Olympics' flaws, and to do that I kind of have to bring the non NS world into it.

I think that Pierre de Coubertin's original idea for the (real) Olympics was definitely an admirable one, just that the choice of an event was off. George Orwell put it the best in his 1945 essay "the Sporting Spirit."

"I am always amazed when I hear people saying that sport creates good-will between the nations, and that if only the common peoples of the world could meet one another at football or cricket, they wou1d have no inclination to meet on the battlefield, Even if one didn't know from concrete examples (the 1936 Olympic Games, for instance) that international sporting contests lead to orgies of hatred, one could deduce it from general principles.

Nearly all the sports practised nowadays are competitive. You play to win, and the game has little meaning unless you do your utmost to win. In the village where you pick up sides and no feeling of local patriotism is involved, it is possible to play simply for the fun and exercise, but as soon as the question of prestige arises, as soon as you feel that you and some larger unit will be disgraced if you lose, the most savage combative instincts are aroused. Anyone who has played even in a school football match knows this."

I can give some examples of this phenomenon (I'll use U.S. events because I'm from there and know the most about that). After the Okland Raiders' Super Bowl loss in 2003, angry fans took to the streets in a riot in which nearly 85 people were arrested, four buisnesses were damaged, and 30 cars toppled. After the Red Sox's loss to the New York Yankees in the last MLB playoffs, the college I go to (I live near Boston) had a mini-riot where racist epithets were exchanged and four people were taken in by campus police.

In terms of ancient Greece, the Olympics were viewed as a religious event. Wars between city-states were halted during the Olympics solely due to that reason; they'd just go back to beating each other up afterwards. Victory in the Olympics meant that the city-state that won had the best fighters and should not be challenged in war; winners were literally treated like kings as the city-state would often pay for their living expenses for life.

Could an Olympics work? I'm skeptical. If it does go through, I'd like to see these:
-no athletes under 18 so as to avoid exploitation of children (female gymnasts especially have been subjected to abuse by coaches)
-events where there is a clear-cut winner (no synchro swimming, etc.) where only human judgement matters and objectivity doesn't matter.
-background check of all IOC applicants.
-monitoring of all countries in competition to host the games for their comittment to human rights-serious rights abuses will knock a country out of contention. The selected country would continue to be monitored up until the Olympics start.
-IOC not allowed to claim a copyright to the name "Olympics."
-If possible, an "Andrea Raducan" rule making sure that atheletes don't get disqualified for doing something like taking cough medicine.
-Cutback of nationalistic displays.

If we could get an ethics board to monitor the games, the Empire of Krygillia will consider support.