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PROPOSAL AT VOTE: LEGAL PROSTITUTION AMENDMENT

Quarka
05-04-2004, 06:47
This is a resolution proposal to amend the previous highly controversial and very vague "Legalize Prostitution" resolution.

Legalize Prostitution Amendment

Wheras prostitution, having already been legalized, may not now be repealed as it is outside of the law to do so,

Whereas free and unregulated prostitution is extremely detrimental to society,

Therefore we the United Nations recognize that prostitution is legal, however it may only be conducted by a sanctioned business in a commercially zoned area. Any prostitutes caught in the open outside of a sanctioned business will be subject to the laws of their country dealing with the matter.

Therefore also all prostitutes must, in the act, be provided some form of protection by their sanctioned business place, be it birth control pills, condoms for the customer, or otherwise. Businesses failing to do so will be subject to the laws of their country dealing with the matter. This is for the protection of the health of all prostitutes.

By making prostitution an actual business, the risk of kidnap/rape/murder to prostitutes will be very minimal, also, the risk of STD transmission will be lessened slightly.

Even prostitutes deserve to be treated with respect.
05-04-2004, 07:01
I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to say no. Your proposal is immoral and disgusting. Making prostitution legal will only lead to an STD epidemic. Soon we wont even be able to reproduce because our privates are covered in green stalks and fungus. I'm sorry but this proposal gets three R's for REdiculous REtarded, and REpulsive.

have a nice day :wink:
Quarka
05-04-2004, 07:05
I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to say no. Your proposal is immoral and disgusting. Making prostitution legal will only lead to an STD epidemic. Soon we wont even be able to reproduce because our privates are covered in green stalks and fungus. I'm sorry but this proposal gets three R's for REdiculous REtarded, and REpulsive.

have a nice day :wink:


No! I am Baptist Christian! Do you understand, damnit!??!?


IT IS ALREADY LEGAL. I DID NOT MAKE IT LEGAL. YOU CANNOT REPEAL A PAST UN RESOLUTION. I AM SIMPLY CLEANING UP PROSTITUTION IN THE HOPE THAT IT MIGHT LESSEN IT!


Gosh, why can't people read posts.
Gayles
05-04-2004, 07:10
I would agree to this cleaned version, only change the part where you say condoms or other forms of birth control to require the use of condoms to prevent the spread of HIV from the host to the prostitute. This way, UN funding for HIV research will not need to be heavily increased due to the increase in HIV infected prostitutes.

Just a thought.
Quarka
05-04-2004, 07:17
I would agree to this cleaned version, only change the part where you say condoms or other forms of birth control to require the use of condoms to prevent the spread of HIV from the host to the prostitute. This way, UN funding for HIV research will not need to be heavily increased due to the increase in HIV infected prostitutes.

Just a thought.

I cannot change it, it shouldn't affect the UN research. The attempted prevention of HIV is a non-said obvious point.

Yet HIV can still be spread with a condom, and birth control pills do not do anything to stop STDs.
Collaboration
05-04-2004, 07:26
Can you add some clinical health support for the ladies? that would benefit the public.
SCOS OJ
05-04-2004, 07:27
Please do not label your thread "RESOLUTION AT VOTE" when it is only a proposal that has not yet reached quorum. There are presently two proposals that have been promoted to resolution status and will be voted on. Labeling your thread as such is misleading and detracts from the debate over the two resolutions that actually are resolutions at vote.
Quarka
05-04-2004, 07:29
Please do not label your thread "RESOLUTION AT VOTE" when it is only a proposal that has not yet reached quorum. There are presently two proposals that have been promoted to resolution status and will be voted on. Labeling your thread as such is misleading and detracts from the debate over the two resolutions that actually are resolutions at vote.

This aims to be a resolution. It is a resolution proposal.

I apologize but this is how I labeled it and my other proposal. There is nothing fundamentally wrong, and anyone looking into the UN can see this is a proposal. Also by reading the thread and posts.

Hopefully nobody looks at something based on thread title. :wink:
05-04-2004, 08:02
We already have legal prostitution, gambling, recreational pharmacuticals, trance parties, guns, nudity, and any marriage one wishes. However.... no wellfare, low taxes, restrictive immigration, and if you break the law.. public floggings.

Simple premise..... Have fun, but do not infringe on anyone elses fun :)
05-04-2004, 09:13
Unfortunately, the wording of this proposal places Gethamane immediately in violation. We have no businesses. At all. All of our prostitution is provided by the government after a medical exam of the client shows that they're clean. We also lack commercially zoned areas... Unless you count our Citizen Supply Centers.

We would give this proposal consideration if it were to protect our interests.
Quarka
06-04-2004, 02:25
Unfortunately, the wording of this proposal places Gethamane immediately in violation. We have no businesses. At all. All of our prostitution is provided by the government after a medical exam of the client shows that they're clean. We also lack commercially zoned areas... Unless you count our Citizen Supply Centers.

We would give this proposal consideration if it were to protect our interests.

You forget that prostitutes out in the open, on the streets, are at a very high risk for rape and/or kidnap, in some instances murder.

Making prostitution a business would clean it up and increase their safety.

It's a good thing.
Komokom
06-04-2004, 04:25
Prostitution is legal is it not?

...

Does that include region pimping? Uh-oh for us then...

:wink:

- The Rep of Komokom.
Celtenacht
06-04-2004, 04:43
Her Majesty notes that this proposed resolution seems to extend only to female prostitutes. In our blessed homeland, a slight majority of prostitutes are males catering to a largely female clientele. Would our 'entertainment boys' be covered by the honorable member's proposal?
Santin
06-04-2004, 04:47
This strikes me as an unnecessary proposal -- where in the prostitution resolution does it forbid regulation?
Quarka
06-04-2004, 05:04
Her Majesty notes that this proposed resolution seems to extend only to female prostitutes. In our blessed homeland, a slight majority of prostitutes are males catering to a largely female clientele. Would our 'entertainment boys' be covered by the honorable member's proposal?

Nowhere are females specifically referenced but the protection clause which is usually pertaining to females anyway. Expansion is allowed under the phrase "or otherwise".

So yes, males are covered.
Prince Xanatos
06-04-2004, 05:21
Seeing as prostitution is already legal, I think it's a great idea to restrict it to certain zones, that way children and other unwanting citizens aren't affected by it/exposed to it.
Quarka
07-04-2004, 08:06
Seeing as prostitution is already legal, I think it's a great idea to restrict it to certain zones, that way children and other unwanting citizens aren't affected by it/exposed to it.

Exactly. And this is why the proposal exists.

I'm not sure if we can pull out enough support for it at the last day, but I urge everyone who has not added their approval to this proposal to do so.

Clean up prostitution, help clean nations! :wink:
Enn
07-04-2004, 10:42
Quarka: I think you are on the money with this proposal. However, it would probably be good to run it past Enodia to check whether it has any game mechanics problems, before you submit. I can't see anything myself, but as they always say, better safe than sorry.
Tarqys
08-04-2004, 01:13
Greetings,

While I do approve of state-sponsored prostitution, and I will be voting in favor of legalizing prostitution (when the issue is brought forth to the legislature by the people of Tarqys), I am fearful of corporations using humans as direct profit-making resources. Now, I am not one to demand how things are to be done outside my nation, and thus I write not to condone/reject capitalism anf free enterprise. However, I think that when a business is running a human for profit, it can become very dangerous. Profit has been known to come before all else and I fear for the safety of the prostitutes - I feel they will be at greater risk from the businesses that run them then from STDs.

Furthermore, the proposal you exhibit seems quite sexist in nature. With regards to this statement:
"...be it birth control pills, condoms for the customer, or otherwise."
It seems to state that only women are prostitutes or that only men visit prostitutes. However trivial this may seem, I implore the author to make ammends in the name of equality - there can be both male/female prostitures and striaght/gay/bisexual prostitues. What if the customer is a woman?

Furthermore, I do not see how STDs would spread because of legalization of prostitution. Reduce the amount of force on an object, and the further the object will go, if you 'catch my drift.'

Thank you for letting me voice my humble opinion,

C Edward Adams
Commonwealth of Tarqys
Golgatha
08-04-2004, 03:25
Let's not stop there... What about the spiritual prostitution that religious organizations practice everyday?

Let's regulate them. After all, a church is an organization that provisdes a service, usually salvation or enlightenment for a fee. Religion has caused exponentially more violence than prostitution. Wars have been waged for religous reasons. Terrorists kill innocents at the whim of their unknowable deity. Let's zone and regulate them as well they are a proven threat as opposed to the hypothetical threat posed by people offering as service that it is perfectly legal to give away.
08-04-2004, 08:17
You forget that prostitutes out in the open, on the streets, are at a very high risk for rape and/or kidnap, in some instances murder.

I certainly agree... but it doesn't apply to Gethamane, as our prostitutes don't wander the streets aimlessly. I highly doubt they would be the victims of violent crime, however, even if they did... Gethamane has no crime.

Making prostitution a business would clean it up and increase their safety.

It's a good thing.

This really does depend on which definition of "business" you use. If you mean private enterprise... or in fact, any enterprise that isn't the government, then this interferes with sovereignty of any nation that has banned such practices, including Gethamane. I interpret the proposal this way because of the mention of a "commercially zoned area."