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If the education for every Nations is united, and being used by every nations in UN, it brings many benefit to the world.

1. Nothing such as difference of knowledge standard will happen.
2. Easier for each nations in UN to communicate because the main language used is united.
3. Terrorism will be ceased because no terrorism-teaching-medium will be occured under strong supervise of the education.

Hope that the UN Delegates will approve it!

While you propose interesting ideas, and I can see the benefits it would produce, this would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put into practice. Are the children in a medieval timeframe going to be learning the same things as children in Moontian, a future-technology nation? What exactly is this standard?

Not to mention all the costs associated with training teachers, providing infrastructure, etc.

While you propose interesting ideas, and I can see the benefits it would produce, this would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put into practice. Are the children in a medieval timeframe going to be learning the same things as children in Moontian, a future-technology nation? What exactly is this standard?

Not to mention all the costs associated with training teachers, providing infrastructure, etc.

Well.. at least they won't get the lack and out-dated knowledge from their current education system...
Costs for training and watever stuff are just temporary... This project can benefit the world... Why don't we suffer for a short period of "hard time" (cost spending) to gain the good future?

Education of terrorists will still occur, even if education is strictly regulated within a nation. If there's a will, there's a way; this proposal will not stop terrorists from seeking the education of a terrorist illegally.

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Education of terrorists will still occur, even if education is strictly regulated within a nation. If there's a will, there's a way; this proposal will not stop terrorists from seeking the education of a terrorist illegally.


at least it would decrease the rate of terrorist greatly... Besides that, if the education and the control of police works together, i think 0 terrorist is not a dream...

st it would decrease the rate of terrorist greatly... Besides that, if the education and the control of police works together, i think 0 terrorist is not a dream...

Wrong.

Most terrorists train without regulations, obviously, therefore they would do it in secret, so as not to be regulated. Also, most terrorists go elsewhere to be trained or are trained by your own country in the guise that they are freedom fighters or are citizens (think Osama Bin Laden & the US in Afghanistan).

So long as there is dissidence in the world, there will be terrorists. It's better to protect national security, then implement educational standards that will simply do NOTHING to prevent terrorism.

Also, most terrorists go elsewhere to be trained or are trained by your own country in the guise that they are freedom fighters or are citizens (think Osama Bin Laden & the US in Afghanistan).

Hmm... Well, the idea of 'terrorism' is given since young. If we are giving them the idea of 'loving' but not 'hating' since young, they will not be so easily influenced by the terrorism.
Besides, a standard education can be given for the children and the teenages... (The easiest time to be changing and influenced). Through education, they can know that fighting and violence are not a right thing to do. They will have self-control.. while they are adults, they are having a strong self-control on themselves, this can easily stop the terrorist in a long-term time.
Of course, the project is a long-term project... The decreasing of the terrorist will not be seen in a short period. If the project is carried on for a long time smoothly and with the co-operation from every aspects, after many years, terrorist will be damnly decreased to 0

Education of terrorists will still occur, even if education is strictly regulated within a nation. If there's a will, there's a way; this proposal will not stop terrorists from seeking the education of a terrorist illegally.

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Agreed. We would like to add that all nations must decide what is in their best interests in regards to education. Teaching proper techniques of yak hearding might have no use in a large industrialized nation.... but might be the key to survival for various mountainous regions of the planet. That being just one example... there could be millions. Point being, over-reaching standards set by an international body will lead to disastor.

HOWEVER....

We would like to see a universal set of measurements and mathmatics for all nations.

Agreed. We would like to add that all nations must decide what is in their best interests in regards to education. Teaching proper techniques of yak hearding might have no use in a large industrialized nation.... but might be the key to survival for various mountainous regions of the planet. That being just one example... there could be millions. Point being, over-reaching standards set by an international body will lead to disastor.
Well... Things such as all the science subjects (physics, chemistry, bio), maths, history (world history), international languages (such as english), moral, and other main subjects should be same for every nations.
To settle the different development for every nations, i think the peoples can choose the subjects they would like to take. Okie, here's an example:

For the Children between 5 to 12 years old:
Everyone should be having the same standard of educations and the subjects taken.
When they are among 13 to 17/18 years old:
They can choose what they are good at, such as sicence subj (physics or bio)... or the liberals arts...
If the nation is taking hard on bio-development, they can train more peoples to take bio subj...

Moral subj is compulsory to take
Parent languages can also be teached. But it must be overthrough by the UN first before it is used in the nation's education system.

We would like to see a universal set of measurements and mathmatics for all nations.
Strongly agreed

Moral subj is compulsory to take
Might I ask, what do you mean by "Moral subjects"? We don't understand the term.

Sibu, I think you're proposal is misguided and ignorant. Terrorism isn't about loving or hating, terrorists are just as capable as growing up in a loving home as a non-terrorist is, even if they are taught it from the start.

Terrorism is situational and circumstancial, it is not educational whatsoever. A terrorist becomes a terrorist based on political beliefs, not his educational background, to think that you can, over a long-term period of time, bring terrorism to a complete halt is absurd and ignorant.

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Moral subj is compulsory to take
Might I ask, what do you mean by "Moral subjects"? We don't understand the term.

sorry for the misleading....
Okie, what i mean is "Moral Subject/Lesson/Course"
Through this course, the culture the peoples to live in love.. Let them know what is right and wrong by teaching them the moral value of human.
And let them know what they should and shouldn't do.

If this course carry on for 1/5 or 1/4 in their life time, it can culture the UN's people to be better

Okie, what i mean is "Moral Subject/Lesson/Course"
Through this course, the culture the peoples to live in love.. Let them know what is right and wrong by teaching them the moral value of human.
And let them know what they should and shouldn't do.

You can't cultivate a culture into a universal structure of morality, as all cultures vary what they think morality is to them.

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Okie, what i mean is "Moral Subject/Lesson/Course"
Through this course, the culture the peoples to live in love.. Let them know what is right and wrong by teaching them the moral value of human.
And let them know what they should and shouldn't do.

You can't cultivate a culture into a universal structure of morality, as all cultures vary what they think morality is to them.

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Ok .... Strongly disagree ... and I will explain in detail why "cultrual relevatism" (the term you were looking for) is a farce.

The following statement is true "Wanton harming of innocents is wrong".

That being a "Moral Absolute" .... ergo the idea that there is a moral relavatism is defeated by that single phrase. The definition of who is innocent might be up for debate... but the concept itself is a self evident truth.

So ....... Being that there is a moral absolute that no one can dispute... the whole ideology of moral relavatism is based on a lie.

So ....... We will never teach lies in our wonderful schools of Shambhala

We agree that moral relativism is bunk (though not for the reasons Pychotropics gives), but a close perusal of any set of ethics papers will make it abundantly obvious that nobody has found a sure-fire way to confirm any one moral system as correct. It's therefore senseless to impose the same system on everybody, as this is clearly a case of the blind leading the blind.
There are some particularly egregious exceptions, of course; just because it's not possible to tell which morality is perfect doesn't mean we can't be damn sure that some are wrong. This is why it's legitimate for the UN to, say, ban female circumcision - it's pretty clear that it's an unjustifiable practise under any reasonable moral system.

We agree, however, that this is a deeply misguided proposal. In a third-world agrarian society which can only afford basic schooling, modal logic is not going to be a very suitable subject. In nations where private enterprise is outlawed, business studies will be kind of defunct. In a powerhouse industrialised capitalist state, learning how to maintain a simple borehole and rotate subsistence crops is going to be pretty much useless.

In any case, we are extremely proud of our education system and would not appreciate outside tinkering with it. We are also vaguely amused that this bill has a 'look! no terrorists!' rider jammed onto the end of it. Can we calm down on the terrorist obsession, please, people?

Education works best when it is localized.

Our tribes structure their educational practices independently of each other.

Our nation offers support for teacher training and production and dissemination of materials but does not supervise or regulate content.

A system which works in a sophisticated metropolis will not work in an agrarian village, and vice versa.

Good point. You also have to take into consideration that some socities prefer the home school method, or methods that are taught differently.

Take for example a christian school and that of a public school. The public school will teach maybe the theory of the big bang and how the universe is created.

A christian schooling would teach that god created the heavens and the earth.

Those are two dynamically opposite teaching methods unto themselves.

okie...
1st of all, teachers are not sent by the UN... The UN can set a committee to help to train the local teacher (either send to another country or UN's trainer go to their country) to suit the education project..
For the religious, we can have a religious period few times in a week with the supervising. It may not be replacing the moral course.
Besides that, although people will answer the moral paper in somekind of 'cheating', but with many years of moral teaching, they will know what's right and wrong, at least it would prevent them from doing the wrong thing with a strong self-control.

For local education...
the locals may try to setup education materials localizingly... but these should be gone-through by the UN so that no misunderstanding issue will be brought up...
Some subject such as moral can be teached by using the nation's language. But for the maths and science subj, they should be teached in only one language such as english... This can help them to face the difficulty of 'english-understanding' while they are going for further education in University as most of the uni teach through english...