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We at Tuskegee would be delighted if you would please consider voting yes on our wonderful new proposal. We feel that this move would be a brilliant step towards sculpting a brighter tomorrow.

Nice, snappy, interesting title, how about a copy of the proposal on the forum so we can all 'have a go at it'...oops..debate it??

Child Extermination Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice Strength: Strong Proposed by: Tuskegee
Description: Overpopulation is a huge problem all around the world. Why should we continue to live like sardines packed together in a little can?

Children are stupid, smelly, and weak. They are not necessary for our way of life. Therefore I hereby propose that all member nations agree to exterminate their children of ten years of age and younger.

We can sell their bodies on the meat market. Tuskegee's McRonald's corporation has already agreed to accept 1,000,000 child corpses for use in their cheeseburgers should this act pass. Think of the funds those burgers will raise! Exterminate the children and make the world a better place.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 155 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Apr 5 2004

..but some questions.

How often would this be put into effect, or is this just a one-time ordeal? It can't happen too often, besides, or your population would drop enormously.

What about the geniuses? I'm talking about the kids who, at the age of 8, are able to understand and perform at the IQ level of an average 18 year old (there are freak cases like that). Under the same category, what about those adults who have the brain capacity of 6-year-olds? They can be just as obnoxious and smelly.

This is a once in a century process. Obviously we cannot do this very often without compromising the human race. However, it is necessary to cull the weak from the herd every so often.

As for the geniuses, the smart children will find ways to avoid extermination. Think of it as natural selection.

This runs contrary to all basic evolutionary impulses.

Our genes rebel at such a proposal.

This runs contrary to all basic evolutionary impulses.

Our genes rebel at such a proposal.
Besides, my nation needs as many able-bodied citizens as it can get. No matter their age, the day they can walk is the day that they can fight.

:? One major concern... who chooses what children will be executed?? there are more the 1,000,000 children under the age of ten. Who chooses the ones that live??

Also, what happens when that generation is killed off? who will follow the current leaders when they are finished leading? If there are no children then their are no future adults. :?

I for one...am disgusted that this proposal was even brought up!!! KILLING human beings like cattle is NOT the answer. We are civilized nations and we should not be killing people to bring down our populations. The answer is setting up a quota of children each family is allowed to have. Though it may take awhile to see the effects, it will definitely work.

Ok, ok,,

You want ME to EXUCUTE innocent lives so we can eat them?? Why you can just suck on my poop you bastard. This is absolutly the stupidest, most insane post ever. Never. Nope, wont happen. Ahhh!!!! I need duct tape because my head is goin to explode........BANG!!!


King Face

An interesting solution to a known problem... but no! Instead you should support the Freedom to Information Act, a sane proposal that guarantees all people the right to access accurate and complete information about the world!

You have got to be kidding. I don't really like kids all that much, but that is just insane.

I dearly hope that this is a joke. In which case its pretty funny. Otherwise, its utterly absurd, the notion of killing off everyone because of overpopulation. How about we cut down on consumption? There's a plan.

HPEH James the Sorta-Elven upon reading hte proposal collapses into hysterical fits of laughter. He chokes when he realizes Mr. Atwood is being perfectly serious about the proposal. He hten promptly hands Mr. Atwood a cast iron skillet to cast at the delegate from the nation of Tuskegee

This is one of the sickest proposals ever submitted. Tuesday Heights will NOT support it and will vehemently campaign against it.

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Tuesday Heights will bow before our might or be destroyed.

Tuesday Heights will bow before our might or be destroyed.
Sure they will (said with sarcasm)
Just like someday you'll rule the world right?
HAHAHAHA :lol:

Description: Overpopulation is a huge problem all around the world. Why should we continue to live like sardines packed together in a little can?

We don't have an overpopulation problem in The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites. In fact we have a saying, "If it's overcrowded where you are, MOVE!"

Children are stupid, smelly, and weak. They are not necessary for our way of life.

No, just necessary for the continuation of the human race.

We can sell their bodies on the meat market. Tuskegee's McRonald's corporation has already agreed to accept 1,000,000 child corpses for use in their cheeseburgers should this act pass.

Note to self: Pass law banning McRonald's restaurants in The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites.

To summarize this proposal has no chance of getting any support from me.

"Well, this is offensive.'

* Turns to Enn

"Hand me my frying-pan, no, the big one."

- The Rep of Komokom.

much of humor is offensive
possibly the best humor is offensive universaly without bias or favoritism.

while we would never take this litteral proposal seriously

reducing the birth rate by lowering all human firtility impartialy without bias or selection accross the board, untill total human population has been reduced through the natural proccess of aging and the completion of life to somewhere arround 1/20th of its current level, or that of the average between 1750 and 1917 is something we whole heartedly and in all seriousness favor.

a cleaner, safer, happier and more gratifying world would resault.

i'll let someone else fraime a real proposal out of that if they feel like it.

if we can come up with something as backward headed as viagra, surely we can come up with something, perhapse even something self sustaining, that can go into everyone's water supply, have no other side effects, and maybe even make the water taste better.

just about everything that is creating problems with the environment can be traced back to there being so many of us. but unpleasantly draconian measures need not be resorted to when a simple unbiased accross the board universal lowering of human fertility would do the job painlessly and effectively

(of course we might also stop romantacising the automobile and having large families and being thoughtlessly aggressive, but if there really were 1/20th as many of us as there are, even these might be far less of a problem)

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reducing the birth rate by lowering all human firtility impartialy without bias or selection accross the board, untill total human population has been reduced through the natural proccess of aging and the completion of life to somewhere arround 1/20th of its current level, or that of the average between 1750 and 1917 is something we whole heartedly and in all seriousness favor.


If you want to reduce the world's population, fine, you first.

Here's a better plan:

I propose the extermination of anyone who scores less than 100 on an IQ test, regardless of age! Okay, so that's half the population, but it is the useless half who are boring to talk to, and who cause TV channels to be clogged up with crap like big brother. Pointless flesh sacks! Just like my neighbour! He can't even pronounce the word 'bottle'! He says 'bockle', and he must be in his forties! The incomparable idiot! And, to make it worse, he has inflicted his idiot genes on the next generation! Bah, I can't wait for this proposal to go through, I gotta act! Where's my chainsaw...

Here's a better plan:

I propose the extermination of anyone who scores less than 100 on an IQ test, regardless of age! Okay, so that's half the population, but it is the useless half who are boring to talk to, and who cause TV channels to be clogged up with crap like big brother. Pointless flesh sacks! Just like my neighbour! He can't even pronounce the word 'bottle'! He says 'bockle', and he must be in his forties! The incomparable idiot! And, to make it worse, he has inflicted his idiot genes on the next generation! Bah, I can't wait for this proposal to go through, I gotta act! Where's my chainsaw...

Ok...did you not get hugged enough as a child or something?? Take a chill..seriously.

and just to add in something of my own

How bout a proposal to exterminate all people who are a useless waste of oxygen..oh wait..that would only get rid of 1 person..you :roll:

I am stunned that ideas like this are even discussed in open forum. In addition, I am disturbed that, in some cases, it is getting actual debate. The premeditated taking of an innocent life goes against all that this august body stands for and the nation of Dunlend categorically regects the very suggestion of it.

Can we instead eliminate diplomats that suggest such ideas?

Steven J. Sprouse
President
Republic of Dunlend

I am stunned that ideas like this are even discussed in open forum. In addition, I am disturbed that, in some cases, it is getting actual debate. The premeditated taking of an innocent life goes against all that this august body stands for and the nation of Dunlend categorically regects the very suggestion of it.

Can we instead eliminate diplomats that suggest such ideas?

Oh, I wish we could at times, Snr Sprouse. Instead, I try and remember that the UN is here to represent all nations, even those full of idiots. :lol:

As I have been smacked full in the face with since arriving at the UN, this is not an entirely democratic body. The rules intimate that mods can strike down ideas that are against not only the game, but that are inherently against the UN. I submit that this is entirely against the published ideals of the UN and should be struck down by those with the power. Lord knows there are things we are forbidden to do here--like suggesting game change--suggesting the premeditated murder of children should be one of them.

Steven J. Sprouse
Dunlend

As I have been smacked full in the face with since arriving at the UN, this is not an entirely democratic body. The rules intimate that mods can strike down ideas that are against not only the game, but that are inherently against the UN. I submit that this is entirely against the published ideals of the UN and should be struck down by those with the power. Lord knows there are things we are forbidden to do here--like suggesting game change--suggesting the premeditated murder of children should be one of them.

Steven J. Sprouse
Dunlend

Sorry, (On a technical disagreement rather then on the idea at hand being pure evil, ogh, and stoopid! :wink: ) by that argument you could say with equal validity that gay marriage is wrong, abortion is wrong, prostitution is wrong, people are wrong, for varying reasons usually involving petty things like race or religion/politics...

Where was I, oh, yeah, you could say that because such issues, e.g. killing kiddies are moral/ethical issues, sure most people think its wrong, but its not a rules/game mechanics isue,

However

You could maybe ask the mods to warn off the thread writer for being intently offensive...

...

Eh (shrugs), if you'll excuse me, I have to go frying-pan another "lets dissolve gay marriage while saying we want equality for all couples while ignoring the idea of game mechanics and no repeals..." sigh

:)

- The Rep of Komokom.

Child Extermination Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.


Category: Social Justice Strength: Strong Proposed by: Tuskegee
Description: Overpopulation is a huge problem all around the world. Why should we continue to live like sardines packed together in a little can?

Children are stupid, smelly, and weak. They are not necessary for our way of life. Therefore I hereby propose that all member nations agree to exterminate their children of ten years of age and younger.

We can sell their bodies on the meat market. Tuskegee's McRonald's corporation has already agreed to accept 1,000,000 child corpses for use in their cheeseburgers should this act pass. Think of the funds those burgers will raise! Exterminate the children and make the world a better place.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 155 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Apr 5 2004

wrong, looks to me you're a sadist, and if this was official, countries would have no fresh future generations, if child extermination was active when you were a kid, you wouldnt be here right now wouldnt you? and how you described kids of today is exactly how we are were/are at the early stages of our lives.

100% NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tytrox Throx
2000th Generation Royal Emperor
Empire of Zortroth
Commander General Zortrothian Army

A modest proposal this... but not one that we shall support.

Kind regards

Jonathan Brobdingnagian
Speaker for Literary Conceit

An unfortunate and desperately misguided 'proposal'. Please consider all citizens of Tuskagee banned from entering Dakares.

this proposal is ridiculous, it would be shameful if it was ever voted by the UN. my nation will kill who it sees fit, we will not allow anyone to tell us otherwise.

Kill children? Art thou daft? This goes against the basic evolutionary impulses. It is part of our genes to protect children and to see that no harm comes to them. I am afraid that I must vote no on this.

Here's a better plan:

I propose the extermination of anyone who scores less than 100 on an IQ test, regardless of age! Okay, so that's half the population, but it is the useless half who are boring to talk to, and who cause TV channels to be clogged up with crap like big brother. Pointless flesh sacks! Just like my neighbour! He can't even pronounce the word 'bottle'! He says 'bockle', and he must be in his forties! The incomparable idiot! And, to make it worse, he has inflicted his idiot genes on the next generation! Bah, I can't wait for this proposal to go through, I gotta act! Where's my chainsaw...

Ok...did you not get hugged enough as a child or something?? Take a chill..seriously.

and just to add in something of my own

How bout a proposal to exterminate all people who are a useless waste of oxygen..oh wait..that would only get rid of 1 person..you :roll:

:roll:

Perhaps you should take a chill, quit flaming, and possibly lighten up a little. If you can't take that kind of offhanded rant with a pinch of salt, then you are probably taking life too seriously. Also, if you want to launch an invective against me in future, there's this little thing called wit that you might want to take advantage of.

My neighbour actually does say 'bockle'. I find it quite hilarious.

Oh, and if your sole complaint is that you actually like trash like Big Brother, then, seriously, you might want to get your head examined.

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His Most Irate Majesty proposes that certain annoying people be exterminated instead: men who appear in public with bread crumbs in their beards, people who smoke regardless of 'no smoking' signs, people who let their children run wild in public places such as restaurants, those who try to communicate with people who speak other languages by shouting, people who go through 'Express Lane- 10 or less items' at stores with full shopping carts, & so on.
His Majesty is willing to accept other nominations for the type of people that should be exterminated.

Historically, the largest birth rates have been seen in periods when prospective parents have been unable to guaranty the survival of any particular children. If humans are denied a k strategy for reproduction, they will resort to an r strategy - and vice versa.

If the mortality rate of childrens goes up - the birth rate goes up to attempt to ensure that at least some children survive. It's just like bacteria - if you throw in predators they'll reproduce faster.

Now the drawbacks of a high birth rate are well known. Children require a lot of love and attention if they are to become skilled and valuable members of society, and if they outnumber the adults by a significant margine that's simply impractical. We can't expect to provide decent amounts of training to children coming in broods of eight or nine - and if we crank the infant mortality rate up high enough that's exactly what we'll get.

Women aren't really healthy having seven kids or more. The economy isn't really healthy attempting to educate 4 children per working adult. The future isn't really bright if the next working generation is going to have to share existing capital resources amongst three times the working population in fifteen years.

And that's the kind of figures we are going to be looking at if people feel that any particular child of theirs is more than likely to die before getting a chance to reproduce.

Good night, everyone.

* The Rep of Komokom, on his way out of the building, drops in and hands a single sheet of paper to His Most Irate Majesty of Northgalis with only the word "Facemob" on it. He smiles and says,

"Just in case you know, the moderators may take a while so we could save them the bother"

* Proceeds to hand His Most Irate Majesty of Northgalis a frying-pan, turns, and walks out of the building, to his golden mango liquer bottle shaped horse drawn carriage and speeds off to his diplomatic residence, not to be seen again till after the 9th... :wink:

- The Rep of Komokom.

Tuesday Heights will bow before our might or be destroyed.

Aye right! Ya Barm! See Heid, See You, ya Scum! Nae Bastart touches Tuesday whilst Joccia's aboot!

Awa' an get yer breeks changed, yer ming o' shiet!

If overpopulation is a problem. Put them up for adoption. I'm sure people in other nations will pay to adopt a child. While I have no patience for the little rugrats, I can't see killing them.

Besides, overpopulation is a National Problem. This would be a National Issue and thus not a UN concern.

Oh, sorry, was there a proposal here?

Ah, yes...........

I see....

Dear, dear Rep of Komokom, perhaps this would be more suitable in this case.

Hands said Rep of K. a four foot long claymore.

Only four feet? Nay, Komokom, you need something bigger.

:hands him a ten-foot wide frying pan, which is somehow easily transported:

Ichi Ni: "Besides, overpopulation is a National Problem. This would be a National Issue and thus not a UN concern."

I'm afraid I have to disagree. Populations use resources. If populations grow too large, resources become a contested issue between nations. Then we have an international problem.

This proposal, though it may at first seem a Swift solution, is not a realistic option we should be considering.

*wonders how long it will be till someone takes offence at the appalling puns*

*snatches the implausibly large frying pan from Komokom and proceeds to beat the Ecopoeian delegate around the head*

Aw, someone noticed!

if a nation's population becomes too large and resources strained. then that is different. but to suggest this resolution because one nation is experiencing overpopulation and introducing a solution both catastophic and just plain poor taste is not an international problem. If he has an overpopulation problem, how he/she deals with it is his problem... not the UN's. He can offer tax breaks for certain operations to stem the... output. or even tax the children families have. If he cannot control his nation, he should step down and let someone else run his nation.

trips over server

titters manically, then loses consciousness as another mighty blow falls

Child Extermination Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice Strength: Strong Proposed by: Tuskegee
Description: Overpopulation is a huge problem all around the world. Why should we continue to live like sardines packed together in a little can?

Children are stupid, smelly, and weak. They are not necessary for our way of life. Therefore I hereby propose that all member nations agree to exterminate their children of ten years of age and younger.

We can sell their bodies on the meat market. Tuskegee's McRonald's corporation has already agreed to accept 1,000,000 child corpses for use in their cheeseburgers should this act pass. Think of the funds those burgers will raise! Exterminate the children and make the world a better place.

:roll: Yeah, its not like we need the kids anyway.

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You could always use the time-honored method of reducing population: Start a war and draft all your men between 18 and 35. Keep it up until there aren't so many of them left.

Or not.

You could always use the time-honored method of reducing population: Start a war and draft all your men between 18 and 35. Keep it up until there aren't so many of them left.

Or not.

You could always use the time-honored method of reducing population: Start a war and draft all your men between 18 and 35. Keep it up until there aren't so many of them left.

Or not.

I agree with the Child Extermination Act. Where do I sign up?

You could always use the time-honored method of reducing population: Start a war and draft all your men between 18 and 35. Keep it up until there aren't so many of them left.

While certainly time honored, this has never worked out. Ever.

As it so happens, at this very moment we are in the middle of Passover, an eight day holliday devoted to remembering the first recorded attempt to reduce population by removing the boys - over three thousand years ago. While this may seem like a decent way to go about things, especially if you are a patriarchal society, it's just not going to work.

If you kill the vast majority of males in a population, you'll reduce the current population by as much as 50%. But what does that do to the next generation? Not much as it happens. A human woman can have as many as four children without suffering severe health effects from it - and there's no actual need for a man for more than about 17 minutes of that process for each one.

So if the females vastly outnumber the males - the males can simply be passed around and the population created for the next generation is unchanged.

But the working population is reduced now, so the next generation of workers, while precisely the smae size as it would have been had you not wiped out a big chunk of the males in the progenitor generation, is going to have a lot less capital goods to work with.

And just like Pharoh Ramses discovered - killing the boys of a generation gets people really ticked off, throws your economy in the crapper, and makes you into an inter-generational villain - but it doesn't actually meaningfully reduce the population you are dealing with even twenty years in the future.

Good night, everyone.

I for one...am disgusted that this proposal was even brought up!!! KILLING human beings like cattle is NOT the answer.

Not according to our religious texts....

"And thou shalt know that the answer to all thine whoas is the blood-letting of men."

-The Boota'bha, 13:3 4

Still, last night we served leg of little boy at our table, and we found it stringy and not very meaty at all. It would require a huge amount of prcoessing to of the kiddy meat to mass market it. That amount of processing just happens to be about a third of the amount by which McRonald's food is normally processed, so there's no problem. Let's get started on this lucrative and not antiunethical global industry!!! It makes my mouth water just thinking about the child burgers and the profits!!!

Child Extermination Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice Strength: Strong Proposed by: Tuskegee
Description: Overpopulation is a huge problem all around the world. Why should we continue to live like sardines packed together in a little can?

Children are stupid, smelly, and weak. They are not necessary for our way of life. Therefore I hereby propose that all member nations agree to exterminate their children of ten years of age and younger.

We can sell their bodies on the meat market. Tuskegee's McRonald's corporation has already agreed to accept 1,000,000 child corpses for use in their cheeseburgers should this act pass. Think of the funds those burgers will raise! Exterminate the children and make the world a better place.

:roll: Yeah, its not like we need the kids anyway.


and see the young and fresh future of your nation collapse in sadistic stupidity from wiping out lives that could change the world in many ways imaginable (hopefully all for good)? then be my guest.

this goes for those also who agree with this "proposal" as it pretty much still is lacking votes and will be until the end.


Tytrox Throx
2000th Generation Royal Emperor
Empire of Zortroth
Commander General Zortrothian Army

I for one...am disgusted that this proposal was even brought up!!! KILLING human beings like cattle is NOT the answer.

Not according to our religious texts....

"And thou shalt know that the answer to all thine whoas is the blood-letting of men."

-The Boota'bha, 13:3 4

Still, last night we served leg of little boy at our table, and we found it stringy and not very meaty at all. It would require a huge amount of prcoessing to of the kiddy meat to mass market it. That amount of processing just happens to be about a third of the amount by which McRonald's food is normally processed, so there's no problem. Let's get started on this lucrative and not antiunethical global industry!!! It makes my mouth water just thinking about the child burgers and the profits!!!


... I dont even want to imagine where your people derive from, if they lived on my lands they'd be sent STRAIGHT to Borloth!


Tytrox Throx
2000th Generation Royal Emperor
Empire of Zortroth
Commander General Zortrothian Army

what's so wrong with it? the chinese did it, for a long time, just set a mandated limit on the number of children per household, and require permits to procreate, that way, you thin the herd, but not completely, plus if a child is stupid, weak, or useless, allow them to sacrifice the child for a mulligan of sorts

what's so wrong with it? the chinese did it, for a long time, just set a mandated limit on the number of children per household, and require permits to procreate, that way, you thin the herd, but not completely, plus if a child is stupid, weak, or useless, allow them to sacrifice the child for a mulligan of sorts


and thats exactly where the brutal and vicious crime of manslaughter kicks in. sure the chinese did it, but they didnt eliminate ALL of them!! its simply child cruelty and inhumane, frankly people who do this dont deserve to live and frankly i think its worse than the ideals and beliefs of cannibalism. its just not on.

think about it, kids are turning into nothing but cannibal fodder, and a certain plague struck the lives of many who were over the age of 30? no kids would be around to help rebuilt the community and we wouldnt know what significance their minds and thoughts could bring to us in the future. they can do what the middle aged people and elderly people of today cannot do! schools will not exist due to limit populace of younger generations, and employers will find it cheaper and better off employing young adults for working in industries and big companies rather than hiring those who are starting to become slow, weak and rotting minds due to aging.

seriously, think about it, if you still support the idea of child extermination, im so going to laugh at the pathetic stupidity and idiocracy you bring onto your people therefore leading to your nations into downgrading resulting in a full mass collapse.

sad sad sad....


Tytrox Throx
2000th Generation Royal Emperor
Empire of Zortroth
Commander General Zortrothian Army

How modern. I'm sure Jonathon Swift is rolling in his grave -- had he not errupted from it in order to propogate the living dead plague we are now coming to grips with.