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As a new member of the UN I was enraged to see the lack of movement this governing body is doing. There are issues and items that need to be addressed. The Fat Cat Regional Delegates need to become more active and vote on issues or give up their power to countries that will do the job. If this does not happen maybe then it is the time for all nations fed up with this stagnation to leave the UN and start up another WORKING national assembly! The next step is yours, tred well!

Boobkakistan

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I'd suggest this thread be moved to the UN, where a whole bunch of us can pounce on you for your flagrant insult, ya cheeky basturt.

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:lol: I don't really want the U.N. to do much, so this 'stagnation' is fine with me.

BTW, isn't this in the wrong forum?

The less the UN does the less damage it does, and the less complaints from nations about how awful the UN is.

yes, but the less nations invovled, the more inane, moronic, and just plain stupid resolutions will pass.

However, the problem is how to get people to participate. after all, we can't force them to... or can we?

Least just face it all the UN is doing at the moment is passing resolutions that sound good. To many flawed resolutions are getting through.

Maybe we need to form commitees whitin the UN .......... that are made up of just UN members not just delgates and give them some kinda power like a two house system .........

yes, but the less nations invovled, the more inane, moronic, and just plain stupid resolutions will pass.

However, the problem is how to get people to participate. after all, we can't force them to... or can we?

Force them to realize that if they (The UN) does not start to do its job there are other countries that will either kick them out of the assembly or leave enmass to start up a new Governing World Body. This might be the better choice since the UN is known to be weak willed on the important issues.
Other nations that agree with this need to make their voices heard! We will either take the reins of the UN and make it what it should be, or be the wise ones that leave this sinking ship for a better vessel.

Least just face it all the UN is doing at the moment is passing resolutions that sound good. To many flawed resolutions are getting through.

Would the state of New Brisbane care to identify some of the resolutions he considers "flawed"? The general consensus among regular users of these boards is that, with the possible exception of the Freedom of Choice resolution, the UN resolutions are far higher-quality, more relevant, more free of loopholes and more considerate of national sovereignty than ever before.

Ignoring any comments here that are subject to game mechanics issues, I'm quite disappointed that certain nations have made a point of critcising the UN in this manner. The vast majority of nations who are active in the UN want high quality resolutions. We work damned hard to ensure that proposals are rigorously analysed. Where have you been in this period? If you really care, get involved instead of idly criticising from the sidelines.

The quality of resolutions is improving but there is still some way to go. Maybe if you actually did something instead of moaning then we'd get to where we want to be a lot quicker.

Frank Chalmers
Speaker for International Relations

I'm quite disappointed that certain nations have made a point of critcising the UN...
...The quality of resolutions is improving but there is still some way to go. Maybe if you actually did something instead of moaning then we'd get to where we want to be a lot quicker.

Frank Chalmers
Speaker for International Relations

Mr Chalmers himself states that the UN has a long way to go. But he calls anyone that does not take his view moaners and critcisors. It is not the resolutions that have a long way to go it is the flawed system of the UN that countries like Ecopoeia established that has a long way to go. Many nations show a lack of interest because they are convinced that the UN is an assembly has no teeth to do what is really need for our World. Do not fear Mr. Chalmers what us "Critcisors" are doing, we are starting a movement that this World needs and what the UN up until now has ignored.

Czar Ragnar Von Venomish
Boobkakistan

"Mr Chalmers himself states that the UN has a long way to go. But he calls anyone that does not take his view moaners and critcisors."

No, Czar Ragnar, I was specifically referring to those nations that have made derogatory remarks about the UN's activity without actually making any contribution themselves. The UN is what you make of it. If you take the time to browse this forum, you may find that we are a nation willing to compromise and listen to the views of others.

"It is not the resolutions that have a long way to go it is the flawed system of the UN that countries like Ecopoeia established that has a long way to go."

With all due respect, I think you misunderstand the 'flawed system' and our role in establishing it. The system itself is subject to the game mechanics. We in Ecopoeia have not played a part in 'establishing' it; indeed, we are a relatively young nation. We are merely active participants. It is our hope that your nation will also become active, contributing to debates and possibly drafting proposals for resolutions. That would be a lot more helpful than ill-informed attacks the UN itself.

"Many nations show a lack of interest because they are convinced that the UN is an assembly has no teeth to do what is really need for our World."

Maybe so. We are also concerned about this lack of interest.

"Do not fear Mr. Chalmers what us "Critcisors" are doing, we are starting a movement that this World needs and what the UN up until now has ignored."

Jolly good. I assume you mean within the UN? I'm genuinely interested in what you feel the UN should be doing. Would you care to enlighten me?

Please do not be so quick to pounce on a simple typographical error. Your own English is hardly flawless and there is no need for this kind of pedantry.

Frank Chalmers
Speaker for International Relations

Out of character... many of the problems you refer to may be due to game mechanics. The system itself is pretty much set in stone. You're not the only one unhappy about this but there's not a lot we can do about it, sadly.

Hurry up!

We've not had a UN proposal for ages!

The Republic of Lancamore would like to announce the Freedom to Information Act, and encourage you to vote for it. The title sounds like the one in the states, but this one focuses on governments denying basic information to their citizens.

Thanks for your help!

Luke Beland
Patriarch of Lancamore

Is there some gameplay modification that could be made that would encourage delegates & member to get more involved? Perhaps after a proposal has gotten 20 endorsements a telegram could be sent to all delegates asking them to let their region know of the proposal and decide if they'd like to endorse it.
Gemraven is a young nationstate but it seems already that the UN has been stagnating during our time. As people get less accustomed to their being issues at vote and general activity in the UN, they will come to vote and look even less often than they already are. This trend would be a threat to the continuation of the UN in our humble opinion.

As a new member of the UN I was enraged to see the lack of movement this governing body is doing. There are issues and items that need to be addressed. The Fat Cat Regional Delegates need to become more active and vote on issues or give up their power to countries that will do the job. If this does not happen maybe then it is the time for all nations fed up with this stagnation to leave the UN and start up another WORKING national assembly! The next step is yours, tred well!

Boobkakistan

Hey you dumb ***** I am regional delegate of my own region! I am doing the best I can but the UN is slow at the time being. It takes longer for resolutions to form at this current stage in time. So be patient. AND do not blame the delegates! Most get fat and lazy with their jobs. Yes the UN could be inproved, but just ride it, instead of fighting it.

Hey you dumb ***** I am regional delegate of my own region! I am doing the best I can but the UN is slow at the time being. It takes longer for resolutions to form at this current stage in time. So be patient. AND do not blame the delegates! Most get fat and lazy with their jobs. Yes the UN could be inproved, but just ride it, instead of fighting it.

The Regional Delegate of Aanmericaa does many things in the last message. Insults me then agrees with me then shows the major problem with the UN by ignoring the situation and just wanting to ride the problem out instead of working or if need be fighting for a change. This is from one of the UN Delegates, the so called leaders in the UN. Thank you so much for your words and inactions Aanmericaa, you have proved my point better than I could of ever done.

Czar Ragnar von Venomish
Boobkakistan