NationStates Jolt Archive


UN Proposal: A True and Fair Democracy

30-03-2004, 00:30
Description: All nations belonging to the UN shall adopt this proposal for the advancement of it's citizens beliefs.

Article I
All citizens will not be denied the right to vote. People of all races will not be descriminated on their opinion in the voting booth.

Article II
All citizens votes will remain anonymous unless they wish to share their position voluntarily.

Article III
No political party may pay the voters to change their true standing on a vote. Parties can not bribe politicians to favor them in the election.

Article IV
All voting will be voluntary, but actions may be taken such as advertising, to get more people to vote.

Article V
These articles may be altered in any way by the UN if it becomes a resolution by popular vote. All nations may abolish this if the UN decides to do so. More articles on furthering democracy may be added to peoples democratic rights.

Please approve of this proposal at the bottom of page 2 in UN proposals. I thank all of you for you support.
30-03-2004, 00:38
The approving of my proposal ends today so please get out there and support it!
Collaboration
30-03-2004, 00:46
The dictatorships and monarchies will not like this, but it looks fine to me.
Unless it violates some UN restriction about national sovereignty or something.
30-03-2004, 00:48
There is no restriction against worldwide democracy is there? I just want it to become a resolution anyways to promote democratic ideals.
East Hackney
30-03-2004, 01:04
Sorry...Article 1 of Rights and Duties of Nation States, full text here:
http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/85580/page=UN_past_resolutions

"Every UN Member State has the right to independence and hence to exercise freely, without dictation by any other NationState, all its legal powers, including the choice of its own form of government."

In any case, the Freedom of Choice resolution provoked a lot of opposition over fears that it meant more democracy. You'd have a very hard time passing this one.
30-03-2004, 01:48
No no no no. Our government only allows voting to those citizens who serve or have served in a military capacity.

Now I'm getting a little tired of this. At one point I have people telling me that there are resolutions which PROTECT our sovereign rights and our own forms of government.

And on the other hand, I'm getting resolutions which state that I have to freely give choices and rights to our citizens which have not earned those rights, beyond our written national laws. So the UN laws now contradict our national sovereign laws.

Maybe the United Nations should change their name to The United Nations Democratic States at the expense of all other forms of government.

You can't have it both ways, either it's sovereign rights for every nation, or it's democratic choice for all nations. Which is it going to be people. Getting a little tired of defending my nations sovereign rights with every democratic proposal you muster down every nations throat. There are certain rights we'll agree on, democratic voting is NOT one of them and you keep on puting more nails in the coffin of every nation which is not a democracy.

And our nation is not a democracy, it is a militarocracy. Democracy are for those nations to week to make a confirmed stand on any issue, and those same issues come up every four to six years during their re-elections. Democracy is a form of government we abhore and will not idly by and sit on this topic.

If this resolution is taken serious, we will consider it an attack against our own governmental rights, and will act accordingly with force to defend our governmental structure.
La Terra di Liberta
30-03-2004, 05:14
I will support this motion, it seems reasonable and I could care less if the Commies don't like it, they like treating their people like trash anyway.
Brennenburg
30-03-2004, 05:18
This is exactly the kind of proposal the UN does not need right now. If your nation so much as attempts to force the worlds many UN nations to become democracies two things will occur. The UN will decrease in size and influence considerably as all the member nations will leave. Or the ones who stay will set up mock elections to appease your guidelines. Please this is a global forum, not your Parliament. You cannot force your nation's views on the world no matter however right they may me. The Freedom of Choice resolution is just the latest exercise in tyranny by the UN. Should we not move to ensure peace or order instead of forcing all nations to one idealogy?
Of portugal
30-03-2004, 06:33
if this were to pass so many nations would quite the un
30-03-2004, 06:39
kill u!
East Hackney
30-03-2004, 12:30
I will support this motion, it seems reasonable and I could care less if the Commies don't like it, they like treating their people like trash anyway.

Err... we are communists. And we're democratic. And we're still opposing it. Care to revise your opinion?
La Terra di Liberta
02-04-2004, 05:04
How are we communists? Im sure not one, heck on my first day i began a joined a huge war against them and them declared one a few days later. I am democratic yes, but communist, no! I don't oppose it because I want people to have a choice in government and be able to throw someone out if they are doing a sh*ty job.
02-04-2004, 05:48
Article III
No political party may pay the voters to change their true standing on a vote. Parties can not bribe politicians to favor them in the election.

We realize this is too late; however, this clause makes the Republic of G Bugles oppose this proposal.

Simply put, a political party is a private organization just like any other, and therefore is free to engage in whatever mutual non-violent non-fraudulent transactions with other private entities it wishes.
Enn
02-04-2004, 08:38
How are we communists? Im sure not one, heck on my first day i began a joined a huge war against them and them declared one a few days later. I am democratic yes, but communist, no! I don't oppose it because I want people to have a choice in government and be able to throw someone out if they are doing a sh*ty job.
East Hackney was not saying that you are communists, rather that he is communist.
02-04-2004, 09:24
The Absolute Monarchy of Joccia is ruled by its King.

It reverted to an Absolute Monarchy because the people voted to oust the party political system. We no longer have laws being passed to please minority pressure groups, we do experience a degree of corruption in government machinery, but far less than most 'democratic' countries.

Laws are passed in council, and any individual may petition the king.

Democracy is prized as a 'freedom', however, by experience we have found that generally it involves the oppression of the majority by a vocal/activist minority.
Ichi Ni
02-04-2004, 10:33
ya know. I think I FINALLY figured out the problem. Alot of these resolutions are written by people who want to see the decisions made in their nations passed into the UN. ok, it all makes sense now.

Once more, repeating myself from the Freedom of Choice Act.

Democracy, the right to choose, the right to Vote, is a national concern and should not be a UN concern. I not support this not because I Don't believe in Democracy but my region has all sorts in it. As their delegate I also have to take their concerns and their beliefs into the matter. Once again, the Motive is Pure, the heart of the proposal Noble. It just does not belong in an INTERNATIONAL community.