NationStates Jolt Archive

Sirs,

Ha, foolish pigdogs. I see the requirements are nothing more than a more draconian version of current centrist US policy. Filthy sheep all. I note especially:

No smoking - The genuine liberalism of our divine sovereign state would never countenance such a yoke.
15% of military to regional forces - High, no? Again a reflection of US adventurist policy.
Ban on Homosexuality - Craven fools. You have the imagination of the lizard Bush.
guns for all - Again, unimagiantively following US dictats. Our glorious people love guns but insisting on the right to bear arms? Hicks! Shoot up your log cabin, Cleetus!

My Country is new [OOC I have been playing for 1 day now] and I have just applied to join your august organisation. [OOC This is because I want to have a more involved playing experience] However, having genuinely liberal views appears to be anaethema to the UN. [OOC not being American, I don't understand why UN rules so closely reflect Democratic party principles]

Our Divine state wishes to join. We wish to contribute, we have many guns to sell and undesirable sections of the populace to expel, sorry, 'citizens who wish to exercise their right of freedom of movement'. How do we square this circle? Contributing to the NS community meaningfully at the expense of having to suffer under the jackboot of current US attitudes and opinions or attempt an honest and glorious political sysytem at the expense of meaningfully causing a reaction within NS?

That notwithstanding, I wait with interest for any citations or entreaties from fellow states.

i remain yours,

His Celestial Majesty King Astaroth XXIII :twisted:

perhaps sadly, this site is dominated by Americans, so you perhaps have to expect neo-conservative Americanisms to be present to an extent.

However, I think the UN as a whole is far more liberal then current US policy, and the examples you have there are proposals that will never reach quorum while the UN is as liberal as it is.
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I shall continue to join then. While I may violently oppose such unthinking ideals I accept the power of herd mentality. We shall simply have to take steps to protect the Obsidian Throne from such wooly-minded pollution. Thank you sir.

I remain yours,

His Celestial Majesty King Astaroth XXIII

Go to the UN screen and click on the list of already passed resolutions (to which you implicitly agree when you join the UN). You'll see our fairly liberal stance on most issues. In fact, the usual complaint is that the UN is too liberal. The right-wingers constantly throw out resolutions, but they are almost always voted down. In fact, you needn't worry about homosexual rights, as they are already protected (including the right to marry) in a previous resolution, and with the way the game currently works, you can't repeal resolutions.

They have been read, and noted. Most are acceptable to the Obsidian Throne. We are confused as to why barbaric punishments have been banned but it takes many folk to make the world go round.

i remain,

HCM King Astaroth XXIII

We are confused as to why barbaric punishments have been banned but it takes many folk to make the world go round.


Welcome to the U.N.! :lol:

perhaps sadly, this site is dominated by Americans, so you perhaps have to expect neo-conservative Americanisms to be present to an extent.

However, I think the UN as a whole is far more liberal then current US policy, and the examples you have there are proposals that will never reach quorum while the UN is as liberal as it is.
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We have many Neo-Cons in our region, and we are proud to have them all. Please keep your criticism of the "fake world" countries that outdo your "fake world" country to yourself... k thnks, nuff said

Bishop Hassan, Minister of Intollerance for all Psychotropics

Well, in RL terms, the UN is essentially the U.S. anyway. Though the UN here is pretty liberal and exciting.

The Romans warmly welcome you.

We have many Neo-Cons in our region, and we are proud to have them all. Please keep your criticism of the "fake world" countries that outdo your "fake world" country to yourself... k thnks, nuff said

OOC: I was not critising any country, fake or otherwise. I was referring to how it would be welcome to have a little more cultural diversity rather than a majority who hail from North America.

I also was not critising conservative attitudes. Someone needs to be less sensitive I think, :roll:

Well, in RL terms, the UN is essentially the U.S. anyway. Though the UN here is pretty liberal and exciting.

The Romans warmly welcome you.

From our outstanding Library in Shambhala, I have read up on the fake world's UN... and it seems far more "Petty Dictator" and "French leaning slime ball" than a true US style democratic forum. Is it not true that in the general assembly that all nations... be they harsh evil dictatorships that torture their own people, or countries which have civil rights and basic freedoms, are given the same vote?

Please correct me if I am mistaken.

Bishop Gates, Minister of Trade and Information for all Psychotropics

We have many Neo-Cons in our region, and we are proud to have them all. Please keep your criticism of the "fake world" countries that outdo your "fake world" country to yourself... k thnks, nuff said

OOC: I was not critising any country, fake or otherwise. I was referring to how it would be welcome to have a little more cultural diversity rather than a majority who hail from North America.

I also was not critising conservative attitudes. Someone needs to be less sensitive I think, :roll:

Agreed, sans my "sensitivity". Conservative values = the values which have proven to WORK,,,,, as opposed to liberal values which are based on "They seem nicer, and feel good" ... but end up costing the producers far too much and aggrevating the true problem.

Sorry for the rant, but after 35 years in Government, one notices patterns :P

General Nudge of Thread (not directed at any particular poster):

Can we please move away from the discussion of the Real World (or, as it is referred to here, the "Fake World"). The thread began as a reasonably IC kind of thing, so let's not start slagging off at the French, the UN or anything else like that, thanks.

Yizz! Ces't troo Enod'iar! Live ze Fronch aloon all yoo frogg bas's'er's!

:)

Psychotropics... 35 yrs in government? Meeep. You poor dear. What "real life" (Sorry Enodia, :wink: ) country are you citizen of?

Where was I? Oh yeah, its funny you know, the U.N. gets called too liberal, too conservative, too socialist, too neo-facist, to agressive, too lumbering, too capitalist,

Too this... Too that...

I suppose the only valid conclusion you can draw from it all is that you simply cannot please them all.

Pity, but lets face it, thats democracy, it works to give us all a equal voice, its just some, while still being equal, are simply, errr, more vocal. And unhappy. Well stiff chips. It seems we all, myself I include in this, at times, forget that the way things works means its simply based on individuals voting one way or the other for what-ever reason. And then the results pool.

Example: Multiple threads trying to shoot down T.C.'s proposal, and yet its winning right now by an almost 2000 margin. Hurrah. Wether it be genuine voting or sheep seeing the "f" word, :wink: is yet to be seen...

- The Rep of Komokom.