NationStates Jolt Archive

The People's Republic of Rendellionshire has just submitted a proposaL for a Personal Weapons Tax. Please help us get this proposal upgraded to a Resolution and help to start reduce violent crime in our world.

Thank you in advance.

Feel free to tax personal weapons ownership in your nation; however, we prefer to simply have no personal weapons at all.

Incidentally, though we are 'anti-gun', we feel it necessary to point out now that any gun-related proposal should not make mention of crime. Crime statistics etc can be used to support both sides. We have a policy of instantly dismissing any crime-based argument on this issue, irrespective of what side of the debate it is used to support.

Maya Toitovna
Speaker for Home Affairs

How about instead we NOT punish people for possessing the means by which to defend themselves.

You want to use the UN to tax individuals in UN member states?

What’s wrong with that? It’s not like there’s a proposal banning it.

Oh right....

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Black New World
Do you know what ‘gay science’ is?

er...who'll be doing the taxing? if it's the UN, then where will the money go (i'm sure i'll get 100,000 ideas from all of NS within a day if this happens)? if it's the nations themselves, then that'll create a whole mess of problems. the UN is an international organization, and dictating a policy that has negligible international, and a strong & possibly detrimental domestic effect is not in adherence to its purpose.

Tax, tax? What is this tax of which you speak? Does that mean you want my militia, which consists of every citizen of my nation, not to be armed? What an absurd concept. What would then be the point of the two weeks' wepons training each citizen is required to complete each year?

Goryville Dictator

While we appreciate your creativity in using financial means to punish gun ownership via excise taxes, to do so would infringe heavily upon several enumerated rights already recognized by the U.N. and society as a whole. Among them, the right to not be taxed by people who don't read the resolutions already passed and are subsequently punished by moderators.

Sincerely yours
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Yes, this is a national, not a world issue, as I see it.

Yes, this is a national, not a world issue, as I see it.

Agreed.

Unless a strong case can be made for why there is international standing on any issue, my nation will likely vote it down. Though the UN can be misused to pass the rules and ideals of a few on others, it is this very abuse that keeps most nations out of the UN.

(NOTE: This applies to many resolutions / proposals, not just the topic at hand on weapons taxes.)

However, my nation will seriously consider resolutions that make recommendations that would help promote peace and freedoms.

A submitted proposal to make the U.N. collect tax...

Huh,

If you listen carefully, you should hear a proposal dying.

Then a nation screaming, before going splat, having been pushed off the top of the U.N. building, by Enodia. :wink:

"Enodia, he fell short, and missed the basket ball hoop on the street light below, try again!"

Yes, I've watched too much of The Late Show.

:)

- The Rep of Komokom.

I must take issue with the idea of taxing ownership of guns, which have legitimate purposes for national defense, self defense, hunting, sportsmanship, etc.

As an alternative measure, I propose idea that we tax violent crime, which at least can be argued has no legitmate purpose.

This is a ludicrous idea, I know (violent crime is already outlawed in most places), but the idea that a tax on gun ownership could do any more to prevent crime than a tax on crime itself is even more absurd.

Actually, it doesn't require the UN to levy tax... It requires the Nations themselves to levy taxes, which remain in the nation itself.

That doesn't change the fact that it's a national issue... And that Gethamane has no violent crime (or crime at all) despite gun ownership being legal.

Why don't you tax your own citizens to death and leave us out of it?

Bishop Hassan, Minister of Intollerance for all Psychotropics