NationStates Jolt Archive

:twisted: I believe that the U.N. is unbalanced because there is no place for those that oppose it. It's supposed to be democratic but it's a matter of "join us or die" because the game is only good if you have interaction and if the U.N. only rules with democratic laws, where does it leave those that have different opinions? I believe that there shouldn't be a U.N. without a Warsaw Pact because the game would be a lot better if you had a group to belong to. Support this cause for the survival of nationstates because if not, the game is soon die out due to lack of interest.

*clears throat* The nation of Steel skarmories is aware that the Warsaw Pact was the opposite of NATO, and not the UN, correct?

The UN has no opposite, and as it's initials stand for United Nations, creating a second organization totally defeats the purpose. However...

We do see your point, and agree that the UN should tread carefully upon passing resolutions which infringe upon the rights of governement which do not permit national electons, a line which has already been crossed in two resolutions so far: the "Citizen Rule Required" and "Stop privacy intrusion" resolutions.

We would support a resolution prohibiting any further resolutions in the catagory of "The Furtherment of Democracy", but we will not support a second UN by any other name.

We would support a resolution prohibiting any further resolutions in the catagory of "The Furtherment of Democracy"

Game mechanics. No dice. I still feel the way 'game mechanics' is interpreted is unintuitive, which is why a lot of people run afoul of it [long discussion thereof edited out because it depressed me too much].

Anyway, yeah, feel free to form alliances but don't pretend they're an alternative to the UN.

Reminds me of the time someone tried to launch the 'New League of Nations'. I sent a puppet there, and the last time I checked nothing was happening. It is simply too hard to create a system a la the UN that will work.

There are no standing bylaws, treaties, or mandates that prevent the creation of an anti-UN, nor has any moderator stood up and say it can't be done. The members of NationStates are more than free to form whatever alliances they wish and so on and so forth.

Good luck, however, getting an official NS forum or any kind of coded page where you can make proposals for this "Warsaw Pact" body or any of the other benefits, per se, of the United Nations. That leaves with you with the ability to role play your heart out, but not much else.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Sigh...

* Checks schedule,

I though so, its been about a week so... yes, useless idea regular roll in time... :?

How many times people?

This idea is impossible to to mechanics!

Not prohibitive ones as in rule changing,

But the as in "It would take a dedicated programmed system to handle the logistical factors of the required communication and decision making abilities"

You know, like the U.N. does... :wink:

- The Rep of Komokom.

There are no standing bylaws, treaties, or mandates that prevent the creation of an anti-UN, nor has any moderator stood up and say it can't be done. The members of NationStates are more than free to form whatever alliances they wish and so on and so forth.

Good luck, however, getting an official NS forum or any kind of coded page where you can make proposals for this "Warsaw Pact" body or any of the other benefits, per se, of the United Nations. That leaves with you with the ability to role play your heart out, but not much else.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs
*wholeheartedly endorses Sophista's statements*

I am aware that the warsaw pact was associated with nato but nonetheless, I still feel the U.N. is one sided. I think the replies that I received were exactly what I meant by "unbalanced" organization. Where does it leave those that agree with me? I would also like to state that I am not against the U.N., I just feel that a one sided organization is pretty pointless. I appreciate the feedback I received from other players, even the negative ones. Thank you.

Martin Moreno,
concerned citizen

I have to disagree with you on this. The member states of the UN express a wide range of views. Would you care to explain how you perceive the UN? What is its bias?

Kind regards
Frank Chalmers
Speaker for International Relations

The delegate from Steel Skarmories seems to feel that the UN is prejudiced towards democracies because it is itself a democratic institution. Perhaps he could explain how, say, making the UN a despotism would allow for the expression of a wider range of views?

-DP-

-DP-

There are no standing bylaws, treaties, or mandates that prevent the creation of an anti-UN, nor has any moderator stood up and say it can't be done. The members of NationStates are more than free to form whatever alliances they wish and so on and so forth.

Good luck, however, getting an official NS forum or any kind of coded page where you can make proposals for this "Warsaw Pact" body or any of the other benefits, per se, of the United Nations. That leaves with you with the ability to role play your heart out, but not much else.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs
*wholeheartedly endorses Sophista's statements*
I think thy already have one. It's called GKON, or something like that.

There is a very simple solution, someone that really wants a counter-UN org should write the code necessary and forward it to Max. I am quite sure he will be willing to give it serious consideration. Games by their nature... have limits. Players must work to learn how to play within those limits.

I see that NS (the game... not the RP) is version 1.7. It appears that Max has beening making significant efforts to improve the game and provide the players more options. Discussion of a counter-UN should probably be on the NS2 board.

I'm very confused :oops: ... this board really seems to jump around. Is it RP, general UN discussion or help?

I'm very confused :oops: ... this board really seems to jump around. Is it RP, general UN discussion or help?

Um...yes it is?

OK... anarchy, I can live with that... :twisted: .

:roll:

Okay, clarification time,

R.P. ?

Yes, you can R.P. here I suppose, however its more of a free will thing, as R.P. rules are not enforced here, simply your usual forum decorum. Many people do actively R.P. a bit here, like me, always signing my posts - The Rep of Komokom and using * to signify non-verbal acts by placing it before text, well, thats just how I do things, as I said, everyone does it to an extent I suppose, andmany in their own individual way, but I digress

Basically, no, you don't have to, but you can to some extent. Uusally people just "R.P." with a particular character or a few.

General U.N. Discussion?

General U.N. discsussion, yes it is, this is the place people, mainly for only U.N. discussion, you know, for discussing proposals, passed resolutions, up and coming voting, ideas for proposals, how to write them, and most importantly, submitting them for general view by the member public at large as well as our Mods, who may glance in to make sure your not doing anything to get your botty smacked, so to speak.

Help?

As in Tech Help? Well, maybe a little, we do occasionally have newbies roll in and ask a few U.N. questions which the F.A.Q's would usually resolve, but by and large some of us drop in and help them, and in the unlikely event their being nasty about us or the U.N. , we ridicule their posts till they cry, :wink: !

- The Rep of Komokom, with hope this post helped. :)

As an answer to a certain individual who wrote about me not having proof of a biased government, I think that he/she should check out some of the other posts on the very first page which talk about left-leaning U.N. Like I stated earlier, I am not against the U.N., I am just concerned that one of the most important aspects of this game is to interact with other individuals, and sometimes that isn't possible for those that are moved aside by the "popular" crowd. I hope that I am putting a voice to the people who don't have the courage to speak up. (I feel like Jimmy Carter coming home after a trip from Cuba.) :D

I went to that thread, and by memory, provided the server was working, toasted their posted.

Pfffrt. Was hardly fair hunting.

- The Rep of Komokom :wink: