NationStates Jolt Archive

:) Listen up all nations, we are being robbed blind, all of us, if we continue to let these major corportations move to another country and they not pay their employees their pentions or give the employees their benefits, then i say we tax the hell out of them. These companies claim bank ruptcy(i spelled that wrong) but still have millions of dollars. I say as soon as they move if any employee has proof that they didn't get their benefits, then these companies will have their Butts sued off. This is not fair to any country or the people. The bottom line is (YOU MAKE THE COMPANY HERE, YOU STAY HERE COMPLETELY)-you can move just make sure you still have your company headquarters here.

In short, no. The UN can't levy any kind of tax, and punishing all corporations because a select few are bad isn't helping anyone. Furthermore, the issue of not being paid your pension is a matter of civil law between corporations and their workers, not the United Nations.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Furthermore,

this legislation, if the UN had the willpower to pass it, which it does not, would hurt small nations such as the Holy Empire of Grand Hobgoblonia, even non-UN member states! Outrageous.

Assertively,
Prime Minister Baragh IV,
Loyal Servant to the One True Monarch
of the Holy Empire of Grand Hobgoblonia

*yawn* national sovereignty *yawn*

pass the remote...

The Holy Empire of Gethamane disagrees with this proposal for many reasons which are, in fact, unimportant.

However, we would like to point out that, to our knowledge, there isn't a UN Resolution banning the taxation of Corporations except in those countries that consider a corporation a "citizen." So the UN could pass such a resolution, but Gethamane (and many other nations, I'm sure) would prefer that we didn't.

you must have it wrong, i'm not saying a company shouldn't move over seas, shoot thats good for the world economy, i'm just saying tax the hell out of those companies who lie to their employees and to the government, saying they are bankrupt but still have billions or millions of dollars, and then mover over seas for cheaper labor and not have paided the employees back home all of their benefits.

Any nation may do so at this time... if they so desire. The UN cannot do anything about taxes... to advocate such, can cause you serious reprecussions.

The UN can't levy any kind of tax

Unless there's a clause in another resolution that I'm missing, this isn't true. The anti-tax resolution says this:

The UN shall not be allowed to collect taxes directly from the citizens of any member state for any purpose.

A corporation isn't a citizen; the UN can tax corporations all it wants. Note the 'directly' there. Even if an individual nation regards corporations as legally citizens, a corporation could still be taxed in order to move from one to the other, at the transfer of its legal location between one nation and another, where its status as a citizen would be in limbo.

Personally, we don't allow major private corporations, so the point is moot, but we'd nonetheless like to support this in principle, since as things stand the mobility of corporations threatens the national sovereignty of others.

Is this tied to, y'know, an actual proposal or anything?

Laio has not corporations... they are illegal. Such a measure would require the UN to directly tax its citizens.

Private enterprise is illegal

Fair point. A leaving tax was what I called it. So companies would have to stay put, thus depriving them of much of their power.

Laio has not corporations... they are illegal. Such a measure would require the UN to directly tax its citizens.

If private enterprise is illegal in Laio - as it is in East Hackney - then that presumably means that all enterprise is either owned and run by the government or as co-operatives of some sort. In either case, it would be impossible for such companies to uproot and move overseas and so the measure shouldn't affect Laio at all.

True, but it does not protect Laio from frivolous law-suits. We request that a clause be added... exempting nations that do not allow corporations or privately-owned businesses.

Give the One-Worlders an inch and they will demand a mile :P .