Children in War Proposal - Let the kids fight!
Kevinovilla
05-03-2004, 04:16
This proposal is ridiculous. Children are a valuable resource, and to prohibit them from serving their country would be a crime against the UN nations. Children are valuable for war because of their obedience, stealthiness, and irritation as POWs. This would also take away an effective means to control population (killing them off before childbearing age). Let our children be patriotic too! ON TO CANADA!
Children are not tools of war. How can you think of sending them to die? The worst part is that we can't declare war on you for it because we'd be killing children.
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Hamptonshire
05-03-2004, 10:33
Children are not to be used in war.
I believe that children are our future, teach them well and they will lead the way. Show them all the beauty they posses inside. Teach them a sense of pride...
While Hamptonshire is not an avid supporter of UN resolutions limiting the sovereign powers of independent nations, we find the position Kevinovilla to be repugnant. Perhaps a course of regime change is necessary in your part of existance.
The colony of Total anhilation wholeheartedly agrees that children should be allowed on the battlefield. In fact one quater of our new recruits are under the age of 18, and eager to defend the ideals that they and their whole nation hold dear!
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Heian-Edo
05-03-2004, 12:15
We are appalled that any naation would consider using children as soldier (or for any other war purposes.)
Rehochipe
05-03-2004, 12:26
The colony of Total anhilation wholeheartedly agrees that children should be allowed on the battlefield.
The colony of Total misspelling is not a UN member and looks unlikely to become one. And sadly we're not able to enforce our resolutions on non-member states, even though we do so infallibly in member-states. Precisely the opposite of the real UN.
The colony of Total anhilation wholeheartedly agrees that children should be allowed on the battlefield.
The colony of Total misspelling is not a UN member and looks unlikely to become one. And sadly we're not able to enforce our resolutions on non-member states, even though we do so infallibly in member-states. Precisely the opposite of the real UN.
Och noo Rehochipe, are ye no' bein a bit hard on the wee one? Y'mebbe one tae vote agin we'ans bein' conscripted, but y'r awfy hard in attackin' em on the forum :D
Rehochipe
05-03-2004, 17:16
Och, awa' wi' ye ye great radge.
One thing which I object to in the resolution is the age limit.
The age limit proposed is sixteen (16). Eighteen (18) seems a much more reasonable age limit.
However, I whole-heartedly agree with the resolution in every other respect, and I urge everyone else to vote for it.
Anyone who's opinion is that children are a mere resource to be squandered at will by a nations leader is pretty appalling to me.
Anyone who's opinion is that children are a mere resource to be squandered at will by a nations leader is pretty appalling to me.
I feel that way about society in general. I would fully support a proposal advicating the complete abolition on the draft. People should be dragged off from their homes, and sent to risk their lives.
Sydia, I love it when people are appalled. Wonderful things, appalling things.
When people get hysterical about teens acting like adults, they should remind themselves that the world famous Romeo and Juliette were just kids. In different times and cultures, kids are considered adults at different ages. I don't think 16 is terribly unreasonable. Especially if they enlist with parental consent.
Personally, I don't want my kids to go into the service til they graduate from high school. That incidentally means they will be 19 years old. However, one of the kids may just give up on the idea of graduation. If he chooses to join, I'll probably approve of it. Time will tell.
Now that I've poked a little fun at Sydia, I resent anyone who views PEOPLE in general as resources. People are the reason for a government. The government is a resource of the people, not the other way around. LMAO
Young David killed the giant goliath. Therefore we have biblical right to send children into battle. We all know that children are growing up faster these day. so let them get into the battlefield sooner. Besides many of the children will be joining gangs if they are left at home.
Victory for the state. No matter what the cost.
Sydia, I love it when people are appalled. Wonderful things, appalling things.
When people get hysterical about teens acting like adults, they should remind themselves that the world famous Romeo and Juliette were just kids. In different times and cultures, kids are considered adults at different ages. I don't think 16 is terribly unreasonable. Especially if they enlist with parental consent.
Personally, I don't want my kids to go into the service til they graduate from high school. That incidentally means they will be 19 years old. However, one of the kids may just give up on the idea of graduation. If he chooses to join, I'll probably approve of it. Time will tell.
Now that I've poked a little fun at Sydia, I resent anyone who views PEOPLE in general as resources. People are the reason for a government. The government is a resource of the people, not the other way around. LMAO
Maybe appalled was the wrong choice of word...I'd it's more incomprehensable (if that's a word at all, that is). But yeah, I totally agree on your last point.
Young David killed the giant goliath. Therefore we have biblical right to send children into battle. We all know that children are growing up faster these day. so let them get into the battlefield sooner. Besides many of the children will be joining gangs if they are left at home.
Victory for the state. No matter what the cost.
The bible also says:-
“And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp” (Numbers 11:1).
You should kill anyone who speaks out?!
Then there's how to properly conduct yourself in warfare -
“So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates” (Koran 47:4). “And when the Lord thy God hath delivered [a city] into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones . . . shalt thou take unto thyself . . . But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth”(Deuteronomy 20:13-16).
Make sure you kill all the men - but save the women and kids for enslavement.
But how do deal with women?
"And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and sayunto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy estimation. And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary. And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. And if it be from sixty years old and above, if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female, ten shekels" (Leviticus27:1-7).
They're not worth as much as men, for starters.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" ; (1 Timothy 2:11-12). "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" (1Corinthians 14:34-35).
And make sure they keep their mouths shut.
But the bible is not just useful for these handy hints in solving moral dilemas - you can also use it for science!
“Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” (Jonah 1:17).
Who'da thunk you could survive without oxygen in the stomach acid of a whale for 3 days?
“And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, . . . and the bat” (Leviticus 11:13-19).
The bat is a bird, eh?
We wholeheartedly encourage you to use the bible as a method of decision making in your great nation!
Sydia, I love it when people are appalled. Wonderful things, appalling things.
When people get hysterical about teens acting like adults, they should remind themselves that the world famous Romeo and Juliette were just kids. In different times and cultures, kids are considered adults at different ages. I don't think 16 is terribly unreasonable. Especially if they enlist with parental consent.
Personally, I don't want my kids to go into the service til they graduate from high school. That incidentally means they will be 19 years old. However, one of the kids may just give up on the idea of graduation. If he chooses to join, I'll probably approve of it. Time will tell.
Now that I've poked a little fun at Sydia, I resent anyone who views PEOPLE in general as resources. People are the reason for a government. The government is a resource of the people, not the other way around. LMAO
Maybe appalled was the wrong choice of word...I'd it's more incomprehensable (if that's a word at all, that is). But yeah, I totally agree on your last point.
Young David killed the giant goliath. Therefore we have biblical right to send children into battle. We all know that children are growing up faster these day. so let them get into the battlefield sooner. Besides many of the children will be joining gangs if they are left at home.
Victory for the state. No matter what the cost.
The bible also says:-
“And when the people complained, it displeased the Lord: and the Lord heard it; and his anger was kindled; and the fire of the Lord burnt among them, and consumed them that were in the uttermost parts of the camp” (Numbers 11:1).
You should kill anyone who speaks out?!
Then there's how to properly conduct yourself in warfare -
“So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom (themselves) until the war terminates” (Koran 47:4). “And when the Lord thy God hath delivered [a city] into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones . . . shalt thou take unto thyself . . . But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth”(Deuteronomy 20:13-16).
Make sure you kill all the men - but save the women and kids for enslavement.
But how do deal with women?
"And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and sayunto them, When a man shall make a singular vow, the persons shall be for the Lord by thy estimation. And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary. And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels. And if it be from a month old even unto five years old, then thy estimation shall be of the male five shekels of silver, and for the female thy estimation shall be three shekels of silver. And if it be from sixty years old and above, if it be a male, then thy estimation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female, ten shekels" (Leviticus27:1-7).
They're not worth as much as men, for starters.
“Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence" ; (1 Timothy 2:11-12). "Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church" (1Corinthians 14:34-35).
And make sure they keep their mouths shut.
But the bible is not just useful for these handy hints in solving moral dilemas - you can also use it for science!
“Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights” (Jonah 1:17).
Who'da thunk you could survive without oxygen in the stomach acid of a whale for 3 days?
“And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, . . . and the bat” (Leviticus 11:13-19).
The bat is a bird, eh?
We wholeheartedly encourage you to use the bible as a method of decision making in your great nation!
This proposal is ridiculous. Children are a valuable resource, and to prohibit them from serving their country would be a crime against the UN nations. Children are valuable for war because of their obedience, stealthiness, and irritation as POWs. This would also take away an effective means to control population (killing them off before childbearing age). Let our children be patriotic too! ON TO CANADA!
Ifully agree... this must be a joke. the children are our future not a means of protection
This proposal is ridiculous. Children are a valuable resource, and to prohibit them from serving their country would be a crime against the UN nations. Children are valuable for war because of their obedience, stealthiness, and irritation as POWs. This would also take away an effective means to control population (killing them off before childbearing age). Let our children be patriotic too! ON TO CANADA!
Ifully agree... this must be a joke. the children are our future not a means of protection
Eh? That's what the proposal's about. Unless someone's being ironic, in which case stop it!
Donald trump
06-03-2004, 02:10
this proposal is EXACTLY why the we need the license to parent proposal. people who think its ok to let their children go to war does not need to be a parent.
:shock: How could you People not understand that all people regardless of there age are put on this planet to die. So me thinks that all this all ready dieing kids should join the army.
1.joining a military group lets kids mature quickly
2.This also lets kids see different parts of the world
3.Makes a child feel that he/she has a purpose in this world
4.Lastly Kid will get a fare amount of money doiing a fun job!
Donald trump
06-03-2004, 04:49
well, if thats your case, then i say we put only senior citizens in the military. afterall, they are getting ready to die anyway. what a fun thing for them to do...and they will be able to travel to other lands. :roll:
Well, why not let the senior citizens in the military? They are experience people, perhaps not the best front-liners, but there must be some use of their wisdom in strategy meetings, or map reading, or language, codes, etc...
As for the Orphans, these are poor kids who have no living relative, yet the State is Mother, and the Corps is Father. Would you take away their Father that they have come to care and love for and be loved in return?
Besides, nobody is foolish enough to put these kids on the frontline until they are ready, but they do a great service to their Father. They have the time and the patience to clean the Latrines properly, they can fit in places full grown men cannot and are great cleaners. In return, Father gives these children a home and an education, and structure. Surely this is preferred to kids overrunning the streets and living off of garbage heaps and stray rats?
Hi! I'm a noobie so plz forgive me if i make any mistake. Kids, IMO shouldn't go to war. Instead they should receive basic military training so that they make better soldiers when they are eligible for military service. Imagine this, an enemy nation invaded your country and kill your parents, don't you wanna kick your enemy's ass. Without military training you couldn't do that could you?
Any force invading Enn would not only have to avoid heavy I.G.N.O.R.E. fire, but also get through the walls of the ancient city and avoid the auspices of the Council. So we see no need to force any of our citizens to take part in military training. We especially disapprove of children being used in conflict.
you're kidding me right? i mean i understand if you want to give the children some way to learn survival skills and basic defense; but sending them off into a war is just stupid. sending a 12 year old off to kill people isnt how we build character in this world.
I believe this idea should never reach the UN voting process and if it does i urge everyone who has an ounce of decency to vote against it
you're kidding me right? i mean i understand if you want to give the children some way to learn survival skills and basic defense; but sending them off into a war is just stupid. sending a 12 year old off to kill people isnt how we build character in this world.
I believe this idea should never reach the UN voting process and if it does i urge everyone who has an ounce of decency to vote against it
:roll:
Have you actually read the resolution?!
imported_Isla Saudade
06-03-2004, 17:48
This proposal is ridiculous. Children are a valuable resource, and to prohibit them from serving their country would be a crime against the UN nations. Children are valuable for war because of their obedience, stealthiness, and irritation as POWs. This would also take away an effective means to control population (killing them off before childbearing age). Let our children be patriotic too! ON TO CANADA!
Children have better and more important things to do than to be brainwashed by a Hitler wannabe like you.
People, regardless of age, should not be considered as resources.
People, regardless of age should not be prevented from doing what they want to do.
If you can convince people to fight for you, then that's their look out. And if those people happen to be children then who are we to stop you?
If you really wanted to change the way people fought their wars, the best way you could do that would be to convince others to fight for you instead - amd thus to fight with your own chosen methods. So in order to keep other nations from using child soldiers, the only acceptable methodology for you to adopt would be to convince the children of other nations to join your army instead.
Don't make me come over there.
i am appalled that people react the way they do about this child labor is a duty that every nation must undertake. if we do not forve these children into labor and war how will they become adults..... it isa their right of passage .............we can't have children that don't know anything about death or treachery or back breaking labor the use of children in war and factories and trade is what teaches them that life is not a game of foursquare. they need to grow up and realize that some people don't get to grow up because they are needed to do the dangerous stuff... and the beauty is we don't spend money educating and training them because they can labor and die in battle, think about all the money we'll save. All these wonderful thing this bill opposes stops natural selection and the evolution of man.........
don't stand in the way of progress
veto this measure
i am appalled that people react the way they do about this child labor is a duty that every nation must undertake. if we do not forve these children into labor and war how will they become adults..... it isa their right of passage .............we can't have children that don't know anything about death or treachery or back breaking labor the use of children in war and factories and trade is what teaches them that life is not a game of foursquare. they need to grow up and realize that some people don't get to grow up because they are needed to do the dangerous stuff... and the beauty is we don't spend money educating and training them because they can labor and die in battle, think about all the money we'll save. All these wonderful thing this bill opposes stops natural selection and the evolution of man.........
don't stand in the way of progress
veto this measure
What an eloquently argued, non-psychopathic piece of social commentary you just wrote. You should write a thesis on how being physically and mentally scarred is a rite of passage. Of course, I take it you yourself were involved in a combat zone as a child and of course speak from experience.
What claptrap.
LOL i love it when people quote the bible thinking they know it cover to cover and then get smacked down.Brings a warm feeling in my stomach telling me i was right to give the two fingered salute to organised religon.
Anyway "Bigsexxyworld" as someone stated before,if i was sure i wasnt gonna be up against your nations children,I would turn your country into a smouldering mass and give the Children of your nation a better home.(We have a few colonies suitable)
Meekling
07-03-2004, 02:52
:( Hows about I give you a whack . ARE you a father of many? Be a Mother rather ......Women rule the world in any case. Hitting everything in sight does not help. A tap on the behind is better than a fist in the face.
Meekling
07-03-2004, 02:55
:( Hows about I give you a whack . ARE you a father of many? Be a Mother rather ......Women rule the world in any case. Hitting everything in sight does not help. A tap on the behind is better than a fist in the face.
Meekling
07-03-2004, 02:56
:( Hows about I give you a whack . ARE you a father of many? Be a Mother rather ......Women rule the world in any case. Hitting everything in sight does not help. A tap on the behind is better than a fist in the face.
Meekling
07-03-2004, 03:09
:lol: When your brand new to running a WHOLE country and you get hear and see your views in triplicate Moms rule........... and I as a Mother and a Grandmother we are going to see that the Kingdom of Meeking is going to be the best and the the most trustwothy of all ....
Meekling
07-03-2004, 03:14
:lol: When your brand new to running a WHOLE country and you get hear and see your views in triplicate Moms rule........... and I as a Mother and a Grandmother we are going to see that the Kingdom of Meekling is going to be the best and the the most trustwothy of all ....
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 03:30
If Sydia and Tra Li think they know the bible, what is the context of those verses? Many times the Isrialites were told to kill everyone in the nations they had conquered. And in the old testament women were lower in the social ladder. And who says God can't keep sombody alive in a whale? If you want to contest the power of God i will meet you in the field of battle.
If Sydia and Tra Li think they know the bible, what is the context of those verses? Many times the Isrialites were told to kill everyone in the nations they had conquered. And in the old testament women were lower in the social ladder. And who says God can't keep sombody alive in a whale? If you want to contest the power of God i will meet you in the field of battle.
Did the bible teach you violence was the answer to problems, too?
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 03:44
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imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 03:46
If Sydia and Tra Li think they know the bible, what is the context of those verses? Many times the Isrialites were told to kill everyone in the nations they had conquered. And in the old testament women were lower in the social ladder. And who says God can't keep sombody alive in a whale? If you want to contest the power of God i will meet you in the field of battle.
Did the bible teach you violence was the answer to problems, too?
No, but if you have not noticed, the Lord did punish rebellious nations with destruction and punished the Isrealites when they disobeyed. Whats a country without discipline to keep order?
If Sydia and Tra Li think they know the bible, what is the context of those verses? Many times the Isrialites were told to kill everyone in the nations they had conquered. And in the old testament women were lower in the social ladder. And who says God can't keep sombody alive in a whale? If you want to contest the power of God i will meet you in the field of battle.
Did the bible teach you violence was the answer to problems, too?
No, but if you have not noticed, the Lord did punish rebellious nations with destruction and punished the Isrealites when they disobeyed. Whats a country without discipline to keep order?
He didn't just punish them!
“But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments…I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes…I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle” (Leviticus 26:14-22). “If thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments…The Lord will smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish…The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart” (Deuteronomy 28:15-28).
Ouch!
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up”
Again, ouch. But God is loved, right?
People seem to forget, the Bible was written by men, and thus is fallible.
If Sydia and Tra Li think they know the bible, what is the context of those verses? Many times the Isrialites were told to kill everyone in the nations they had conquered. And in the old testament women were lower in the social ladder. And who says God can't keep sombody alive in a whale? If you want to contest the power of God i will meet you in the field of battle.
Did the bible teach you violence was the answer to problems, too?
No, but if you have not noticed, the Lord did punish rebellious nations with destruction and punished the Isrealites when they disobeyed. Whats a country without discipline to keep order?
He didn't just punish them!
“But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments…I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes…I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle” (Leviticus 26:14-22). “If thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments…The Lord will smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish…The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart” (Deuteronomy 28:15-28).
Ouch!
“Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up”
Again, ouch. But God is loved, right?
People seem to forget, the Bible was written by men, and thus is fallible.
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 04:01
Your mistake is in saying that the bible was written by men, thus showing yourself to be a complete fool. The bible contains fewer time-aquired mistranslations than any other historical book ever made. Refrences have been found to Jonah's remarkable story in ancient texts as well as the existance of Jesus and accounts of his rising from the dead.
Your mistake is in saying that the bible was written by men, thus showing yourself to be a complete fool. The bible contains fewer time-aquired mistranslations than any other historical book ever made. Refrences have been found to Jonah's remarkable story in ancient texts as well as the existance of Jesus and accounts of his rising from the dead.
Are you nuts? Because they are in ancient texts they are not written by human beings....?
Whatever you say. I propose it is yourself that has proven yourself the fool.
“Again, ouch. But God is loved, right?
People seem to forget, the Bible was written by men, and thus is fallible"
I agree
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 04:04
Samaria was also one of the wickedest nation of that time. The were involved in every type of sin, including the sacraficing of children. How horrible is that ?
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 04:07
THe fact of the matter is that the bible has so few literary changes for the time it has been around, it is humanly impossible for it to remain so intact.
Samaria was also one of the wickedest nation of that time. The were involved in every type of sin, including the sacraficing of children. How horrible is that ?
So, naturally, the proper thing to do was to kill their children with swords and kill pregnent women?
Trust me, I got nothing against "hardcore" Christians (if that's the proper term, I dunno), but you can't take the bible as, well, gospel. Har har har, I made a funny.
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 04:14
HEy, try reading Leviticus 26:3-13. It's about rewards for obediance. You only read the punishments for disobediance.
HEy, try reading Leviticus 26:3-13. It's about rewards for obediance. You only read the punishments for disobediance.
What kind of message is that? Do what you're told - or else!
Dragoneia
07-03-2004, 04:23
How can you say that we should send our future into the tides of war? That sounds like what hitler and saddam did and did it do either of them any good? No! It only aloud their children to be either be slaughtered or emotionally tramatized for the rest of their days. The easier thing to do would be to just send in soldiers of the adult age with a combination of machines. Though we would have no problem with a regime change and would assist that for our weapons can be switched between stun and kill wich makes it an ideal way to face brain washed children. Might wanna watch out cuase your gonna get yer A$$ kicked like saddam. 8)
By the way if any one wants to comment to me about my opinion please send me a telegram.
President
Jerome Thomas
imported_The Monks
07-03-2004, 04:33
No and yes. It's rather obvious who is getting which end of the deal. Its intended purpose was to show that there are rewards for following the Lord. It's not as bad as you make it out to be.
Superpower07
07-03-2004, 15:15
This proposal is ridiculous. Children are a valuable resource, and to prohibit them from serving their country would be a crime against the UN nations. Children are valuable for war because of their obedience, stealthiness, and irritation as POWs. This would also take away an effective means to control population (killing them off before childbearing age). Let our children be patriotic too! ON TO CANADA!
You *insert mean name here*, war only traumatizes child soldiers!!! And children can be just as disobedient as adults!!! And population control is just plain stupid!!
Resistencia
07-03-2004, 20:23
After eading the current UN proposal banning child soldiers, I agree with certain parts of it.
2. Insists nations address the causes of child abduction by non-governmental organizations;
3. Emphasizes the need for nations to prevent cross-border abduction and human trafficking;
4. All parties in armed conflict must adopt special measures to protect children from rape and sexual abuse and gender based violence;
5. Expects nations to take into account the special needs of children throughout the duration of the armed conflict and its aftermath;
6. All UN nations must ensure that international measures be taken to take care of child refugees displaced by conflict;
7. Condemns and bans attacks of any sort on places that have a significant presence of children, such as schools, hospitals, and day care facilities;
9. Acknowledges the right of nations to set up military academies and to teach children basic survival and defense skills.
As you can see, Resistencia is against the forceful use of children as soldiers, as well as their abduction. However, if children choose to fight in war they should be allowed to do so. Resistencia, currently has two years of mandatory military service for all those between, 18 and 30. However, people can also volunteer for military service. In this case, they must pass more rigorous training excercises and tests and also must serve a minimum of four years. On the other hand, they recieve a great education as well as being officers. This applies to minors as well, as long as they are able to pass the military testing. The tests the minors recieve are the same as the adults. In this way, Resistencia can ensure that we leave the door open for minors to be in our armed forces therefore giving them their equal rights, but also make sure they have the same skill level as the other troops. By simply making this equal testing, Resistencia narrows down possible succesful candidates to the 15-17 age group. There have only been several remote cases of people younger than that passing the tests and thsi was due to unbelievable physical abilities. Those minors who do not pass the military tests can still volunteer for service in youth companies. Here they are trained in basics of defense and discipline and are given an education. This is also on voluntary basis and allows kids to go on with their normal lives of school, sports, and hanging out while also giving them excercise and self-defense skills.
I hope that this UN resolution is not passed although if we continue the current trend, it will pass by a landslide. I encourage all countries to adopt a system similar to that of Resistencia. Allowing minors to try out for armed service but making sure they have what it takes to be good soldiers.
Dept. of War,
United Socialist States of Resistencia
Kevinovilla
08-03-2004, 00:40
How can you say that we should send our future into the tides of war? That sounds like what hitler and saddam did and did it do either of them any good? No! It only aloud their children to be either be slaughtered or emotionally tramatized for the rest of their days. The easier thing to do would be to just send in soldiers of the adult age with a combination of machines. Though we would have no problem with a regime change and would assist that for our weapons can be switched between stun and kill wich makes it an ideal way to face brain washed children. Might wanna watch out cuase your gonna get yer A$$ kicked like saddam. 8)
By the way if any one wants to comment to me about my opinion please send me a telegram.
President
Jerome Thomas
Hitler's use of children to serve his cause WAS effective. Hitlers mistakes lay elsewhere, including his targeting and slaughtering of Jews, and provoking the United States. Had he been more patient, Hitler could have effectively conquered Europe in its entirety. Training his army from childhood proved effective, as he was able to ingrain Nazi ideals. Obviously those ideals were neither moral nor healthy, however, this same strategy could be used by countries such as Kevinovilla to brainwash.. *cough* ...I mean, teach children patriotism as well as assist in maturation. As proven by the United States, lack of discipline has lead to obese, stupid children (especially of the pasty white cracker variety), and compulsary military service for minors is definitely a practice that would not only be helpful to a warfaring nation, but to its citizens.
Techmainia
08-03-2004, 00:56
when does the voting end?
"The children are our future". Yes, it's a cliche, but it works- children are vital to the nation's future, and such, when they are young they should be learning how to effectively become part of society when they are adults, whatever that may be. At the very least, war should not foisted upon children, who would have yet to learn how to be effective in this situation.
As such, RomeW supports the proposal as-is.
This proposal is ridiculous. Children are a valuable resource, and to prohibit them from serving their country would be a crime against the UN nations. Children are valuable for war because of their obedience, stealthiness, and irritation as POWs. This would also take away an effective means to control population (killing them off before childbearing age). Let our children be patriotic too! ON TO CANADA!
children are the future, by sending them into war we are killing our future. One war could and would destroy an entire generation of children. Imagine putting a three year old into the middle of a battlefield, what would he do? Nothing, he would sit there and be shot. Please I urge all of you do not listen to these raving lunatics.
Arkanstan
08-03-2004, 03:18
Children cannot be viewed of as just "resources". Youth can to easily be corrupted and sent in to battle with false political ideas, and killed for no reason at all. The only part of the resolution that is bad is the age should be 18, not 16. Other than that, Arkanstan stands firmly behind the resolution.
To prevent kids form willingly joining there countries armies infringes on the rights of children as citizens. It also infringes on the sovereignty of a nation to not allow it's government to be run accordingly. Because this resolution only afffects member states it seems rather pointless, the countries who impress children into their armies are probably not UN members. To all who agree with this statement, please strike the resolution as it seems dillatory.