NationStates Jolt Archive

International Crime Solution
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security Strength: Strong Proposed by: Greater Pangea
Description: I, the leader of Greater Pangea, have noticed that there is no international police force established to deal with crimes that spill over the border. I searched through the index of passed U.N. resolutions and was unable to find any laws reguarding this view on international security. I propose that an international police force be established to protect our borders and make sure that the enemies of the state have no where to run. The I.C.E. or International Coalition against Evil would have global jurisdiction. The headquarters for this new organization would reside right here in U.N. headquarters and be subject to all other international laws. Of course, new taxes would have to be collected for the establishment and maintenance of this agency, but it would be money well-spent and would pay for itself. If you have any questions reguarding this proposal please send me a telegram. Greater Pangea resides in Cydonia. Thank you.


*This is my first proposal to the U.N. Please vote for this as I do think that it'll solve many problems. How many times have you seen a criminal run across the border only to mock you from the other side? Well, we can put an end to that if we support this resolution. Thank you for listening and please support this nOOb.

global jurisdiction by default? Not likely.

Such a police force would only have jurisdiction in the nations that recognize it's authority. The nations that vote against this proposal would never allow them jurisdiction within their borders, even if the proposal would pass.

Also, law is defined differently in each country. Global jurisdiction would mean that all nations must unite under the same code of laws; this will never happen.

Secondly, who will this police force answer to? Who will appoint the policemen? Who will make sure that they fullfil their duties?

kaotica, your first point is valid in that there will be a problem with nations that don't want this poice force. However, i think it is something that we should look into. Maybe apply it only to a certain list of laws when first introduced, perhaps those found to be most malicious. What you must remember is that an international police unit would need only to find and capture the offender so that he may be taken to the authorities of the nation whose law he broke. They would simply be bounty hunters under supervision of a governing body. And as for you second point it should be obvious that the UN or some commitee inside it should be in charge of such a force and that it answer to the leaders here. People in the force may have to pass rigorous testing and even be passed off by said committee before allowed in.

Alrindor suggests that the delegate from Greater Pangea submit more information as to how the international crime committee shall work.

Kibeth Celebrindal
Empire of Alrindor
Regional UN Delegate, The World Nexus

A police force that only has jurisdiction when allowed, requires new taxes to cover areas already dealt with by other police organizations, and uses the word "evil" to describe "doesn't agree with government"? We'll pass. Sophista is wary to endorse any kind of proposal where the author would make such a sweeping rhetorical generalization, especially one with such dire consequences.

Perhaps if you were to open a debate forum instead of just haphazardly chucking out resolutions, responses would be more favorable.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs

This amounts to UN control on a dangerous scale. What constitutes 'criminal' varies vastly from one UN nation to another; we retain the right to grant asylum to individuals fleeing from unjust regimes, of which there is sadly no shortage of in the UN.

How many times have you seen a criminal run across the border only to mock you from the other side?
Since most of our borders lead to little except hostile desert and mountains, we figure that it saves us the prison space.

Elsepeth R. Nibbling
Ministry of Being Nice

We have our mother in law snatch squads thank you very much. No need for an international police force. The worlds criminals (and everyone else, including our glorious leader) tremble in fear of Bahgums crack MIL operatives.
We can hire them out for a few pies and a pint, in fact anyone want to house them for us.....Bahgum is a big place, but our magnificent leader feels that they are still living too close to him.

A thinly veiled attempt by One-Worlders to establish "goon squads"... to enforce their evil intent upon all freedom-loving nations.

With that said... proposals that dictate broad and sweeping changes do not seem to have a good track record. Take the long-view on achieving your ultimate goal. A draft resolution to create a centralized data-base for crimes and criminals would have been a more logical first step.

The never paranoid yet always wary nation of Berkylvania agrees with our most esteemed collegues that this proposal is not only dramatically vauge, but amounts to little more than UN dictatorship on an unprecedented scale. While we can sympathize with nations who see criminals slip away across national borders, we also would like to point out that certain networks of extridition already exist to combat this problem and more connections can be established through diplomatic means. To create and then enthrone a third party police system with powers over all NationStates is inappropriate and, frankly, not needed.

Perhaps I was a bit too hasty in my wording. Forgive me as this is my first attempt. Upon careful deliberation I, too, have recognized the vagueness of my proposal and now make an attempt to rectify my mistakes. Also, allow me to change "Global" to "International".



Response to:

The Bureaucrat of Kaotica Libertaria: Allow me to clarify as my wording was too broad. The jurisdiction will be on a region-by-region basis and the regions involved would cooperate with each other to bring in criminals. "Global" jurisdiction is too wide. It would be enacted on a global scale, yes, but countries would only interface with bordering countries or allies. These police administrations would not harm the prisoner or carry out sentencing. They will only hold them for countries that the person(s) is involved with to carry away. If a person is accused in multiple countries those countries would have to work something out. This police force would answer directly to the chief of security of the country who would answer directly to whoever else in charge(varies upon region and government) and would eventually lead to the U.N. Everything they do would have to comply with regional laws and customs. If a nation does not want this police force they can choose not to set up their own "global" police force but neighboring countries' internatinal police would still have jurisdiction to pursue, capture, and retrieve internatinal criminals.

The Spokesperson of Septiloptigus: Thank you. That is exactly what I had in mind. Quote by Septiloptigus "What you must remember is that an international police unit would need only to find and capture the offender so that he may be taken to the authorities of the nation whose law he broke. They would simply be bounty hunters under supervision of a governing body. And as for you second point it should be obvious that the UN or some commitee inside it should be in charge of such a force and that it answer to the leaders here. People in the force may have to pass rigorous testing and even be passed off by said committee before allowed in." That's exactly what it would be like except I would'nt use the term "bounty hunters."

The Ambassador of Sophista: I meant "Evil" to mean threatening to the people's way of life because the people make up the nation. The lives of my people are very dear to me and I deem anything threatening them to be evil. As I said before: This will be worked out on a region-by-region basis. This new police force would a) arrest those who are accused of serious crimes under U.N. rules(crimes that fall under the U.N. charter or laws passed specifically by and protected by the U.N.) b) arrest those who are guilty of crimes in the base country of the police. Ex) Someone in my country is selling slaves(slavery is banned in my country) and flees to a nearby country where slavery is legal. That's when the International police intervene. They would go into the country, the country would decide whether or not to help them or remain neutral, they police would capture the criminal (with/without local help) and bring back the perpetrator while respecting and following local laws and customs. They would not impact the surrounding countries in any other aspect. Obviously, they would not go into the other country and arrest everyone who sells slaves(if slavery is legal there). They would only arrest those guilty of the crime in my country.

The Ambassador of Rehochipe: Yes, they may retreat to the less hospitable areas of your country and therefore be out of your hair, but how long until they return. As soon as you turn your back they'd come right back into your country and continue their crimes. Also, after telling tales about how escape was as easy as crossing the border, they might bring back friends who are just as bad or worse.

The Envoy of Laio: These will not be "goon squads", they would be highly-educated, highly-trained, and cultured individuals who would work in pairs or at most teams of 3 or 4. They would not enforce anything upon other nations. They would simply retrieve individuals who have fled from justice.