NationStates Jolt Archive

License to Parent
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.

Category: Moral Decency Strength: Strong Proposed by: Gryfin
Description: Due to the dramatic increase in abandonment, abuse, and death of infants and children, it should be mandatory that anybody wishing to become a parent should have proper training and be certified in their ability to raise healthy, well-adjusted, educated children. The children are our future, one of our most treasured resources, and yet anybody can have them without anybody checking to see if they even deserve to be parents. It's necessary to have a license to drive a car, own a gun, have a dog, hunt and fish, cut hair, or sell insurance. There should be license prospective parents must obtain that proves their worth to society and why they should be permitted to have children. Let's determine our future, together.


Thank you for reading my post. Thank you if you choose to endorse this proposal in the UN. If you do not approve of my proposal, please let me know how I may improve it for future consideration. Thank you for your time.
~Gryfin

Umm... what happens if a woman gets pregnant before she gets her license? Is the baby 'removed' (read: stolen) from her, or is the embryo/blastocyst/foetus/bundle of cells simply 'terminated'? Unless and until this is cleared up, Enn cannot support such a proposal.

Implement this in your own nation if you must, but the UN will never pass it.

This sounds like indoctrination of children. What criteria would a parent have to meet and who decides what these criteria are? The people of Wetland oppose this dictatorial proposal.

a better way to impliment would be manditory reversable spay and neuter at puberty that would require the liscence to reverse
that way there would be no problem with accidents and would take a serious
bite out of current population problems

the 'road' test for this liscence could be a kind of robotic doll
that would record how it was treated and test would be parents parenting skills, not to mention patience, much as a real infant would
that they would have to successfully take care of and keep out of trouble for a number of months

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A reversible sterilization program would be the main method used. There wouldn't be any chances for accidents, and if somehow, there was an accidental creation of human life it would be raised and cared for by approved parents. I would think that each nation could determine what critera they considered vital for parents and tailor the law to fit their personal belief system. My main concern is with the innocent victims that occur without any system in place. There shouldn't even be the opportunity for unfit parents to hurt or kill a baby. People should also be fully prepared financially, emotionally, and physically before they attempt adding additional responsibilities, especially new life, into their life. I don't think it's right to allow somebody access to a baby when they couldn't even take care of a puppy. I like the robotic doll idea, or any other means to test what parenting skills they have obtained. This system should fit into any political forum, as the main objective is the well being of children and the individual governments would determine the critera for parenting skills necessary.

I would like to thank those that have endorsed my proposal, and I would encourage those that have doubts to feel free to ask me any questions.
Thank You
~Gryfin

the individual governments would determine the critera for parenting skills necessary.

This would be used by dictatorial regimes to punish their opponents and critics and other people that do not conform. I repeat my critique that this resolution can only lead to indoctrination and oppression. The mandatory sterilization is an example of this.

We're with Wetland on this. Forced sterilization! The State deciding who it deems to be a fit parent, so that they can produce 'normal', well-adjusted adults. Didn't the Nazis bring in something similar? Come to think of it didn't your wonderful US of A do something similar, sterilizing thousands of women, to the deserved moral outrage of the world. And now you want to bring it back!

And what happens if governments change their criteria? Are the children of people who used to be deemed ok parents forcibly removed from their homes.

We hope that this was an attempt at bad taste humour though we find it offensive in the extreme. If it goes anywhere near the UN, we will submit a counter-resolution banning countries creating legislation of this sort, and I believe there are plenty of people who would support us condemn this vile proposal to the shameful side of history where it belongs.

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The Envoy for Laio fail's to see what this USA region has to do with the discussion. Maybe, Korrendal is delusional and lives in an alternate time-line.

I would not worry about this proposal... even the One-Worlders will not support this measure.

Diego MacBernstein
Envoy to the UN
Grand Duchy of Laio

It's paranoid and rather silly to think about implementing this against EXISTING children and to compare it to the Nazis. Birth Control would be used from puberty, perhaps a depra-provera shot or some other long acting easy method, and then ended when the person was ready to become a parent. Instead of automatically assuming this would be used as another way "dictatorial regimes to punish their opponents and critics and other people that do not conform" consider that those types of nations probably aren't conforming to any other UN resolution, and that in Nations that aren't that strongly commited, they could simply have a free parenting class and NO sterlization.

If you think my proposal is too dangerous to civil freedoms, then by all means, suggest ways to re-draft it to be as effective in protecting future children without infringing on your beliefs.

It's not like I'm suggesting killing bad parents or even punishing them. I'm suggesting that we give parenthood a level of personal responsibility greater than driving a car has. I don't want to hear about any more babies in dumpsters, or children left to die in a locked car while there mommy was shopping.

Once again, thank you for reading this. I do look forward to your constructive discussion, and please refrain from any name calling or bickering.
~gryf

i love this proposal. raising a child is hard work and its not for everyone. unfortunately some children are born to parents who cannot or will not take care of them. in an ideal world everything would turn out happily ever after.....however, that is not reality.

i would support a social services system that determines the likelihood that a parent or parents would be suitable for children based on financial stability (they dont have to be rich, just be working), mental stability, and the willingness and love to take on the responsibility of children. women and men could be on mandatory birth control. that sounds rather cruel, but to ensure that babies are not born to crack addicts, hookers, and other high-risk-for-failure jobs, it seems like a decent thing to do.

if then, the parent or parents fail to comply with the program (i.e BECOME crack addicts or hookers) then their rights as parents should be relinquished by the u.n and the children placed in more suitable homes.

i love this proposal. raising a child is hard work and its not for everyone. unfortunately some children are born to parents who cannot or will not take care of them. in an ideal world everything would turn out happily ever after.....however, that is not reality.

i would support a social services system that determines the likelihood that a parent or parents would be suitable for children based on financial stability (they dont have to be rich, just be working), mental stability, and the willingness and love to take on the responsibility of children. women and men could be on mandatory birth control. that sounds rather cruel, but to ensure that babies are not born to crack addicts, hookers, and other high-risk-for-failure jobs, it seems like a decent thing to do.

if then, the parent or parents fail to comply with the program (i.e BECOME crack addicts or hookers) then their rights as parents should be relinquished by the u.n and the children placed in more suitable homes.