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I do believe that we should use all the space and resources on Earth before we plan to go to the moon or mars. If we could go under water i do believe if we go under water that we would find currently un-named resources and unlike the moon. Children who are born under water would be able to come unto the surface world because there bodies would be use to the gravity and pressure. On the moon, people who were raised there would not be able to come on Earth because the gravity change would crush their spines. So thus i believe Nimbus-sun's proposal for Ocean cities should be considered.

trump likes this idea....count me in as an investor

I do believe that we should use all the space and resources on Earth before we plan to go to the moon or mars. If we could go under water i do believe if we go under water that we would find currently un-named resources and unlike the moon. Children who are born under water would be able to come unto the surface world because there bodies would be use to the gravity and pressure. On the moon, people who were raised there would not be able to come on Earth because the gravity change would crush their spines. So thus i believe Nimbus-sun's proposal for Ocean cities should be considered.

My nation is opposed to colonization of the oceans. History has shown that humans modify their environment to suit their needs, and Mikitivity oceanographers and geologists have long complained about how many forms of pollution remediation techniques treat the ocean and I quote, "our last untouched wilderness" as a giant trash can.

Certainly we could stand to gain by colonization, but at the same token there are scientific reasons to limit human contamination of the oceans.

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I neither approve nor oppose the idea. It's a cool idea. I find it rather unpalatable, as subsurface is subsurface, whether it be under the water or under the land. I find space to be far more appealing.

Further, a single catatrophe could wipe out all of civilization on earth, on and below the surface. I'm all for expanding outward, where a single catastrophe could only destroy portions of our civilization.

By the way add input to my forum on the poll im going to write a proposal based on the poll outcome.

By the way add input to my forum on the poll im going to write a proposal based on the poll outcome.

I think you mean "thread" rather then forum, I think, and proposal rather then poll which you will write based on results from your poll. Although since its on gay marriage it would be interesting to know why your advertising it all the way over here...

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if you look further down the list and read some of the threads i have a proposal up for vote about moon colonization, but why should i have thought you could read now since you couldnt last night

Go ahead, if you can manage to do it, :roll:

I do believe that we should use all the space and resources on Earth before we plan to go to the moon or mars. If we could go under water i do believe if we go under water that we would find currently un-named resources and unlike the moon. Children who are born under water would be able to come unto the surface world because there bodies would be use to the gravity and pressure. On the moon, people who were raised there would not be able to come on Earth because the gravity change would crush their spines. So thus i believe Nimbus-sun's proposal for Ocean cities should be considered.

BUT.. if we have the technology to live on the Moon, we should have the equipment to make sure this "spine-crushing" doesn't happen.

if you look further down the list and read some of the threads i have a proposal up for vote about moon colonization, but why should i have thought you could read now since you couldnt last night

Sorry, next time I'll submit a request to breathe before I even * think * about opening my... well, typing anything, oh witty and wise one.

* Interestingly enough, why should I think your right, you were not last night... :wink:

- The Rep of Komokom.

We actually have the ability to live on the moon right now, but the cost is extremely high. We don't have the ability to uncrush spines quite yet through. Sorry Kanoskei.
-And just remember, there is always more... Booyah For All!

I do believe that we should use all the space and resources on Earth before we plan to go to the moon or mars. If we could go under water i do believe if we go under water that we would find currently un-named resources and unlike the moon. Children who are born under water would be able to come unto the surface world because there bodies would be use to the gravity and pressure. On the moon, people who were raised there would not be able to come on Earth because the gravity change would crush their spines. So thus i believe Nimbus-sun's proposal for Ocean cities should be considered.

How should we build these cities? What materials should be used? It is dark under the sea. What sources of electrical power would they use?

[Germany there is such an energy source called tide plants. ALso the hot thermo vents in the bottom of the ocean would provide the electricity. The material of the domes would be made of Titanium-steel material which should support the emense pressure of the ocean. Also for air like the moon their would be green houses to support enough air for the cities.

So let me get this straight. By using more of our resources to build a costly underwater city, and possibly bankrupting ourselves in the process... we'll be gaining money how? Oh wait, I forgot, we'll be recouping the costs by selling sea sand, it's just like regular sand except from the sea. I can see an ad camaign already. Ok, it starts out with a midget tap-dancing...

I don't even know if I have a coastline or not.
Anyone got a map?

I think a couple underwater colonies for scientific research would be a good idea. We could better understand the oceans if we made some. However large underwater cities seem unpracticle. I would pressurize the underwater colonies the same as the bottom of the ocean, that way people could scuba dive at the bottom of the sea if they felt like it. Swimming with giant squid, look for species that were thought currently extinct, perform experiments with archea, the possiblities are almost endless, and rather than boring rocks on the moon to study, at the bottom of the ocean there are immense and diverse living creatures to study.

I think a couple underwater colonies for scientific research would be a good idea. We could better understand the oceans if we made some.

Now that is an idea that my Confederation would support.

Underwater cities are out of the question in my country. Space is our new source of exploration for colonization.

Under water cities...

Okay... I think we have a lake, maybe, an N.S. issue mentioned we had a lake some-where... oh, wait, we're mining that for gold already, so really, if people don't want to live by mineral mines on land, one across the kelp below is not likely to be all that appealling anyway... And sound travels easier underwater, so under-water blasting migght just wake the "fish-people" :wink: up...

That was a good point I saw, who says many of us have a shore to any large "sea" or "ocean" area... after all, I am assuming it would need be damn big for a "city". Next we are going to get them claiming we should pull a matrix-esque "Zion" and burrow... eh... :wink:

- The Rep of Komokom.

Colonies no, research facilities yes.

The DSH will not support this proposal until we can study this in greater depth.
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