NationStates Jolt Archive


Turning Space into a Capitalist Adventure, not a good idea

27-02-2004, 19:50
Doesn't the current moon proposal sound familiar to anyone else out there?

Doesn't it sound a lot like a colonization project of say... 2, 3 hundred years ago?

Doesn't it sound like it will take resources from all to benefit the few, and beyond that limit countries who are outside of the United Nations from being able to explore space?

I don't know folks, just to me, this seems like a wretched idea, one that will undoubtedly lead to the exploitation of rich over poor, etc. etc.


"A Brief Note from Mr. Harassalot, Foreign Affairs Commissioner for the Internationale"
27-02-2004, 20:13
Doesn't the current moon proposal sound familiar to anyone else out there?

Doesn't it sound a lot like a colonization project of say... 2, 3 hundred years ago?

Doesn't it sound like it will take resources from all to benefit the few, and beyond that limit countries who are outside of the United Nations from being able to explore space?

I don't know folks, just to me, this seems like a wretched idea, one that will undoubtedly lead to the exploitation of rich over poor, etc. etc.


"A Brief Note from Mr. Harassalot, Foreign Affairs Commissioner for the Internationale"
That would be the case if Moon colonisation were a profitable enterprize. But e Germans and French believe that the prohibitive costs of transporting anything into space prevents this venture from succeeding. Thus, we don't any problems with this proposal.
27-02-2004, 20:13
Doesn't the current moon proposal sound familiar to anyone else out there?

Doesn't it sound a lot like a colonization project of say... 2, 3 hundred years ago?

Doesn't it sound like it will take resources from all to benefit the few, and beyond that limit countries who are outside of the United Nations from being able to explore space?

I don't know folks, just to me, this seems like a wretched idea, one that will undoubtedly lead to the exploitation of rich over poor, etc. etc.


"A Brief Note from Mr. Harassalot, Foreign Affairs Commissioner for the Internationale"
That would be the case if Moon colonisation were a profitable enterprize. But e Germans and French believe that the prohibitive costs of transporting anything into space prevents this venture from succeeding. Thus, we don't any problems with this proposal.
27-02-2004, 20:14
Doesn't the current moon proposal sound familiar to anyone else out there?

Doesn't it sound a lot like a colonization project of say... 2, 3 hundred years ago?

Doesn't it sound like it will take resources from all to benefit the few, and beyond that limit countries who are outside of the United Nations from being able to explore space?

I don't know folks, just to me, this seems like a wretched idea, one that will undoubtedly lead to the exploitation of rich over poor, etc. etc.


"A Brief Note from Mr. Harassalot, Foreign Affairs Commissioner for the Internationale"
That would be the case if Moon colonisation were a profitable enterprize. But We Germans and French believe that the prohibitive costs of transporting anything into space prevents this venture from succeeding. Thus, we don't any problems with this proposal.
Letila
28-02-2004, 04:17
Keep wage slavery out of space!


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Superpower07
28-02-2004, 04:45
Turning it into a capitalist Adventure would be bad, but a capitalist VENTURE would be good
Zombidom
28-02-2004, 05:45
Doesn't the current moon proposal sound familiar to anyone else out there?

Doesn't it sound a lot like a colonization project of say... 2, 3 hundred years ago?

Doesn't it sound like it will take resources from all to benefit the few, and beyond that limit countries who are outside of the United Nations from being able to explore space?

I don't know folks, just to me, this seems like a wretched idea, one that will undoubtedly lead to the exploitation of rich over poor, etc. etc.


"A Brief Note from Mr. Harassalot, Foreign Affairs Commissioner for the Internationale"

We in Zombidom believe that extending ourselves to living on the moon is a waste of money, as it will surely produce very little benefit. All should be able to explore the moon as much as they wish. However, if dangerous life is discovered in space, Zombidom wishes to be notified immediately so that they may encoounter these beings and digest them.

A friendly note from the Head Zombi of Zombidom, Jesus Christ
28-02-2004, 05:47
Outside of potential tourism, there are no real sources for capital on the moon.

However, the Ravilan Chairman sees it in the better interest that the moon colonisation effort remain upon neutral grounds - offering equal say amongst capital and social-minded nations.
Ukroatia
28-02-2004, 06:01
In my proposal 'Further than the moon,' I am not proposing to be an adventurous or venture anything. People have told me that the cost is too great so they dont want to commit to it. I have given a plan that will repay everyone who commits to this reward at least 10 fold. Face it sooner or later we will over populate this world and will have to expand elsewhere, the sooner we start looking at new venures of habitation the better we will be at it. We can gain so much from this. So we are destroying this world. Dont make the same mistakes on the next. The colonies the UN makes on the moon are UN colonies and are governed by UN rules. The UN wont prohibit other countries from colonizing there. There will not be a territory war. There is no reason not to commit to this and if you can give me a good reason I want to hear it. Read my proposal carefully. It is up for vote and is currently on page 7 I believe.
Ukroatia
28-02-2004, 06:03
Resources of the moon different forms of iron ore. Ores stronger than titanium. Rare jews made of compressed ores.
28-02-2004, 06:41
Resources of the moon different forms of iron ore. Ores stronger than titanium. Rare jews made of compressed ores.
Potentially. I'm torn between the need for development and discovery and the need to preserve the rights of workers on a global scale, not to mention a lunar one!
Valued Knowledge
28-02-2004, 06:46
The Kingdom of Valued Knowledge would be interested in the moon proposal, however it would have to be in a situation that all scientific discoveries are shared equaly, due to the moons lack of resources. I suggest a permanent labratory established on the moon to enable low-gravity experiments, such as for particle physics, where particle colliders would require less energy to be operated
28-02-2004, 08:50
The People of Yarsola would like show it's willing support in colonization efforts in the name of science and universal knowledge.... however we do not see this as a viable action at this point, as there are far many who seek profit as opposed to knowledge as a means to get to the moon.

Kris
Chairman
Zelbania
28-02-2004, 08:56
This resolution is stupid. It is not the role of the UN to force the hardworking citizens of Zelbania to shoulder the cost of some space pipe dream. In fact, perhaps we should be paying more attention and money to problems here at home. Should this resolution pass, Zelbania will regrettably have to consider withdrawing from the United Nations. If consenting nations want to enter into a pact like this, that is their business... but this implicates everyone in the whole UN into a massive project. If our nation had the required endorsements, we would propose legislation to curb this kind of overstepping of boundaries by the UN. Given all nations' voting pattern of passing everything put in front of them, we are sure it would fare well.
Ukroatia
28-02-2004, 09:03
I dont know about you guys but a trillion bucks divided i dunno ten thousand ways isnt very much probably less than your public transit allotment.

Keep in mind this whole resolution is not based on profit anything. just know that you will be repaid for your contribution. also regarding experiments. you would have to apply for a licsense or grants the same way as if you performing one on earth. take a look at the proposal 'Further than the Moon' up for vote and get your regional delegate to vote on it. also post any comments about my specific proposal on my forum which is self entitled.
28-02-2004, 09:47
The Nation of Matttrplm would like to concur with its fellow members of the region of comradedom in stating that the moon should be colonized for science and for science only. Any effort by any nation to profit from the moon should not be tollerated by this body!

Chancellor Mize
Ariddia
28-02-2004, 13:09
The Nation of Matttrplm would like to concur with its fellow members of the region of comradedom in stating that the moon should be colonized for science and for science only. Any effort by any nation to profit from the moon should not be tollerated by this body!

Chancellor Mize

The delegate from the People's Democratic Social Republic of Ariddia most strongly agrees; Ariddia casts its vote against this proposal.