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:x The UN is only interested in preserving a global hegemony by forcing its members to abide by resolutions passed by even the slimmest of majorities and must be stopped. It also uses the fact that the UN forum recieves so much more press than anyone else to silence opposition to this fascist body. What we need is a group of non-UN aligned states that posses Marxist beliefs to ressurect a Warsaw-Pact type alliance to counterbalance this obviously corrupt system.

The people's Republic of Genusia
Toil and work, destroy the Capitalists and their soft Socialist lapdogs!!!!

Well, let me be the first to say that I'm stunned. Utterly, completely, totally and irredeemably stunned. Only the other day, the Right was arguing that the UN promoted socialist, "hippy" and otherwise Leftist/liberal ideas.

Perhaps this might finally show those who argue that there's a balance.

I don't know about corrupt it just seems kinda misguided that's all I mean it does TRY to better mankind it's just that unfortunately every proposal follows that general principle to some extent and often gets it wrong and so as you have all probably heard people think that every resolution that to some extent supports the principal of socialistic and compassionate ideals must be a great idea and barely bother to read the proposal before accepting it. That's not really corruption it's just a failure of the system and perhaps someday if everybody wakes up and notices that you need to actually READ what you are voting for the UN will do it's job properly because remember the UN was in the real world as it is in this world supposedly to be a body that has the interests of nations at heart and promotes compassion and freedom, if it would only work the way it was supposed to then it would be perfect.

Well, let me be the first to say that I'm stunned. Utterly, completely, totally and irredeemably stunned. Only the other day, the Right was arguing that the UN promoted socialist, "hippy" and otherwise Leftist/liberal ideas.

Perhaps this might finally show those who argue that there's a balance.

Balance? Oh, there is a balance all-right,

On one side, Rightist Wack Jobs.

On the other, Leftist Wack Jobs.

...

On another note,

I loved that funny about the idea of a non-U.N. aligned set of states that follow marxist beliefs... It was meant to be a joke, right?

I mean, Hellooo ! ! !

Any one person here remember that thing called the Cold War? And, oh, I don't know, the amount of times we almost came to direct nuclear exchange?

And by that I mean BOOM ! exchange, not Traders Bazaar style exchange.

Its also kinda funny in a way that these marxist states in the "Real World" are pretty much screwed, that is, the ones that did not collapse into the "evils" of democracy and capitalism, and in the ones who still clung to their commie ideals, a collapse into all out anarchy and constant instability.

And its not like their not corrupt, I mean, pfffrt, people call capatilist based system corrupt, hello, look, its North Korea, hey, are they still starving their population in order to pay for their leaders dinners to be served on silver platters?

Oh, look, where did all those nuke's come from, I wonder how they were paid for.

Hey, lets all go parade in the cold so the leaders can think their doing a good job, even though I've not eaten in 3 days and my children are sick and can barely walk, which means they must stay at home in our cold hovel, un-cared for, while others force me to shuffle about, with a fake smile plastered on my face, and my last set of good clothes on my back, past the camera's, to show the world how well we live.

Oh yes, communist, leftist, marxist states are so chipper! Their movers! And shakers! Though I am thinking its be a mover or be shot in the back of the head and have the bullet billed to your surviving family members... or is that The Peoples Republic of Commie Bastards China?

And the shaking is probably due more to mal-nutrition.

Where was I, oh yeah, before my rant.

Ahem, Balance, yes this thread is proof there are Wack Jobs on both sides of the fence.

Oh, and that as a standard thing, I DO NOT like communist states in the "Real World"

Ahem,

The Rep of Komokom.

(My, this pills are very strong today... (Giggles Loudly!) OH WELL ! :D )

:x The UN is only interested in preserving a global hegemony by forcing its members to abide by resolutions passed by even the slimmest of majorities and must be stopped. It also uses the fact that the UN forum recieves so much more press than anyone else to silence opposition to this fascist body. What we need is a group of non-UN aligned states that posses Marxist beliefs to ressurect a Warsaw-Pact type alliance to counterbalance this obviously corrupt system.

The people's Republic of Genusia
Toil and work, destroy the Capitalists and their soft Socialist lapdogs!!!!


*sigh* Clean up on aisle 5....

A Communist Broom,

Albion Broom Cupboard

OOC: Komokom - are you saying the Cold War was precipitated purely by communist aggression? Not sure about that, meself. And, in fairness, none of the examples you cited were actually communist. The closest thing to a proper communist nation the real world has had is Cuba, which has done pretty well considerig all the sanctions it has suffered. Which, incidentally, are an absolute disgrace. Granted, human rights aren't great there but there are nations with far worse track records on this issue who have not had to endure decades of economic strangulation in this manner.

IC: I'm not trying to argue that communism will work. I believe it's too dependent on the goodness of human nature and is thus doomed to failure. However, neither will neoliberal capitalism work, for much the same reason.

As for our UN...when it comes down to it, we have an excellent forum here for us to air our views and debate them. It's an important venue for us to understand the myriad different views held by the peoples of this world. Slating it has having one bias or another is simply foolish. Make your voice heard.

Vlad Taneev
Speaker for the Economy

Having believed itself to be a member of the wacko nut-job hippy tree-hugging politically correct do-gooding socialist liberal elite that rules the UN with an iron fist, East Hackney is somewhat surprised to discover that it is in fact a corrupt agent of fascist capitalist running-dog lackeys.

We can only suggest that Genusia takes a more active role in the UN forums in order to help steer the UN onto a more theoretically correct Marxist path.

Comrade Moore
Delegate for Liberal, Left-Wing Wacko Nut-Jobs

if you oppose the un, why don't you get out?

if you oppose the un, why don't you get out?

Genusia isn't a member of the UN.

East Hackney,
I cannot hear you. My ears are pressed too closely to all these trees I'm hugging.

Elsepeth R. Nibbling
Ministry of Being Nice

East Hackney,
I cannot hear you. My ears are pressed too closely to all these trees I'm hugging.

Elsepeth R. Nibbling
Ministry of Being Nice

Hey, shuffle over. That's our hugging tree.

Mmm, ours is nice and snug. It has soft cushioning moss and fungus.

Children, children, calm down. Thanks to UN policy, there are enough trees for everyone to hug.

Children, children, calm down. Thanks to UN policy, there are enough trees for everyone to hug.

Hey, are you trying to tell us to share?
Security! We got us a communist right here! SECURITY!

Oh, for an Ecstasy Legal In National Parks issue.

No, there isn't. Our nation upholds our own ideals and have banned private enterprising in order so that no corrupt companies cannot burn down our forests.


http://www.sorcerers.net/avatars/custom/elite/Chandos.jpg
Archduke Ceron Agones
Public Ambassador of the United Socialist States of Umojan
The Half-Elven Archduke of the Umojan Defence Ministry
The Umojan Ambassady (http://www.freewebs.com/umojan)

Oh, for an Ecstasy Legal In National Parks issue.

We suggest that Rehochipe dispatches a delegation to East Hackney, where ecstasy, delight, happiness, joy, bliss and delight are all legal in National Parks, forests, city centres and, ooh, everywhere else. But most especially pubs.

Are we talking chemical ecstasy or sexual? Cos I got both in me pocket. Awwwwwlriiight.

Desmond 'Coyote' Hawkins
Scruffy Randy Rambling Man
Community of Ecopoeia

I'm with you, Genusia! Majority over minority is not the answer! Conclusions must be made that are in the best intrests of the people! By the time the UN realises this it will be too late!

An new alliance of communist nations will topple the crowns of gold from the heads of the capitalists, forged through corruption and exploitation!

Well, let me be the first to say that I'm stunned. Utterly, completely, totally and irredeemably stunned. Only the other day, the Right was arguing that the UN promoted socialist, "hippy" and otherwise Leftist/liberal ideas.

Perhaps this might finally show those who argue that there's a balance.

Balance? Oh, there is a balance all-right,

On one side, Rightist Wack Jobs.

On the other, Leftist Wack Jobs.

...

On another note,

I loved that funny about the idea of a non-U.N. aligned set of states that follow marxist beliefs... It was meant to be a joke, right?

I mean, Hellooo ! ! !

Any one person here remember that thing called the Cold War? And, oh, I don't know, the amount of times we almost came to direct nuclear exchange?

And by that I mean BOOM ! exchange, not Traders Bazaar style exchange.

Its also kinda funny in a way that these marxist states in the "Real World" are pretty much screwed, that is, the ones that did not collapse into the "evils" of democracy and capitalism, and in the ones who still clung to their commie ideals, a collapse into all out anarchy and constant instability.

And its not like their not corrupt, I mean, pfffrt, people call capatilist based system corrupt, hello, look, its North Korea, hey, are they still starving their population in order to pay for their leaders dinners to be served on silver platters?

Oh, look, where did all those nuke's come from, I wonder how they were paid for.

Hey, lets all go parade in the cold so the leaders can think their doing a good job, even though I've not eaten in 3 days and my children are sick and can barely walk, which means they must stay at home in our cold hovel, un-cared for, while others force me to shuffle about, with a fake smile plastered on my face, and my last set of good clothes on my back, past the camera's, to show the world how well we live.

Oh yes, communist, leftist, marxist states are so chipper! Their movers! And shakers! Though I am thinking its be a mover or be shot in the back of the head and have the bullet billed to your surviving family members... or is that The Peoples Republic of Commie Bastards China?

And the shaking is probably due more to mal-nutrition.

Where was I, oh yeah, before my rant.

Ahem, Balance, yes this thread is proof there are Wack Jobs on both sides of the fence.

Oh, and that as a standard thing, I DO NOT like communist states in the "Real World"

Ahem,

The Rep of Komokom.

(My, this pills are very strong today... (Giggles Loudly!) OH WELL ! :D )

I've said this far too often, and don't have time to explain it. If you really want me to lecture, feel free to email me. Now to begin with my short message:

COMMUNISM/SOCIALISM has never existed on the face of the planet.
Only Stalinism. A totalitarian leadership.

if you oppose the un, why don't you get out?

I'm SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT. SHUT THE ---- UP!

HE'S IN HERE PRECISELY BECAUSE HE OPPOSES IT! HE WANTS TO CHANGE SOMETHING. IDIOTS!

if you oppose the un, why don't you get out?

I'm SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT. SHUT THE ---- UP!

HE'S IN HERE PRECISELY BECAUSE HE OPPOSES IT! HE WANTS TO CHANGE SOMETHING. IDIOTS!

Quite. A vast number of nations seem to believe that the UN is toothless, over-restrictive or run by a cabal of liberal socialist tree-huggers. We should be inviting them in for a free debate so that we can address their fears and show them the relevance and value of the UN, not insulting them and forcing them out.

I will speak what I see right now, no holds barred.
The U.N. right now is ran by large amounts of Western civilization members. These people have grown up listening to capitalist views on the world. Most of them hate "commies". A large percentage think "commies" are just Russians. But I degress, this is not about Communism. These people in Western countries grow up listening to this new "Political Correctness" shit. Kids grow up fearing racism, sexism, etc. They grow up listening to all these people who say cutting trees is bad. They NEVER hear about the good products coming from the logging industry because their media is controlled by liberals! In short, we have FAR too many liberals here. They may think they are always right, but its a mild form of brainwash. Western Propaganda. Were the "Commies" REALLY so bad? 8)

Communist Rule has left us more confused than ever, partly as we are unable to work out whether he is a Stalinist or a neoliberal.
Is he arguing that racism and sexism are good? Is he denying the existence of global warming, a subject, by the way, which even the Pentagon now accepts and has strongly warned George Bush on?

[OOC]And, speaking as a real-life socialist who is trying to create his ideal left-wing utopia in Nation States - yes, the real-life communists were that bad, starting with the fact that none of them were genuinely communist. We've had various strands of benevolent and not-so-benevolent dictatorship - even Cuba, which deserves credit for ensuring education and health-care standards equal to and in some cases better than those in the US, is a dictatorship. True communism is democratic.

COMMUNIST ARMY: "These people have grown up listening to capitalist views on the world. Most of them hate "commies". A large percentage think "commies" are just Russians"

I'm pretty sure most of us don't hate 'commies'. It's a shame you don't appear to have read the enormous arguments that East Hackney, Myopia, Albion Soviets and the like have had with libertarians such as the Global Market and Theseus51. As for the claim about 'commies' equating to 'Russians' in most people's minds - I very much doubt this.

COMMUNIST RULE: "These people in Western countries grow up listening to this new "Political Correctness" shit. Kids grow up fearing racism, sexism, etc. They grow up listening to all these people who say cutting trees is bad. They NEVER hear about the good products coming from the logging industry because their media is controlled by liberals! In short, we have FAR too many liberals here"

Astonishing. East Hackney has already addressed this comment in part so I won't go into a great deal of detail. However, your attitude to issues of equality is peculiar given your attachment to an ideology based on, er, equality. With regards to logging, you're correct about the bad press the industry gets. However, a number of environmentalist/liberals/socialists have teamed up with loggers to try and work out how to accommodate both the industry and the need for environmental protection.

My nation is a classic treehugger type, yet we voted against the Save the Forests resolution. Don't tar us all with the same 'liberal' brush.

Desmond 'Coyote' Hawkins
Scruffy Randy Liberal Lefty Rambling Man

It would appear that most of the "tree-huggers" and totalitarianists who participate in the forum actually take note of the arguments put forward by the other side. This results in countries like Ecopoeia voting against, on the surface, proposals which they would expect to agree with.

The great problem is those who have UN voting rights, but do not enter into the game as such, they just see a proposal once a week and decide whether it sounds good.

This is the real problem with the UN. We the game players have no way of reaching the people who don't enter the forums.

The classic case for me was the Euthanasia prop put up by Grande. Heated discussion turned a landslide "for" vote into a 'damn close run thing', which only just passed. Joccia then did the unthinkable to try to illustrate what the legislation allowed.

What did I discover? Most of the people who responded - either pro or agin - already realised the legislation was 'fatally' flawed.

The mods are wary of interfering with the freedom of the voters, and besides feel they have enough to do. Game mechanics won't seem to allow for any way to solve the problem.

A vast number of nations seem to believe that the UN is toothless, over-restrictive or run by a cabal of liberal socialist tree-huggers. We should be inviting them in for a free debate so that we can address their fears and show them the relevance and value of the UN, not insulting them and forcing them out.

That's just what a tree-hugger would do. A real man would be muttering things like 'unpardonable attack on honour', 'choke their rivers with the dead', and most likely 'declare war on UN' by now.

Elsepeth R. Nibbling
Ministry of Being Nice

That's just what a tree-hugger would do. A real man would be muttering things like 'unpardonable attack on honour', 'choke their rivers with the dead', and most likely 'declare war on UN' by now.

That's exactly the sort of naive and unsubtle attitude that's prevented the socialist revolution. See, what we're going to do *whispers* is lure them all into the UN with all that tree-hugging talk of free and frank debate, get 'em good and drunk, butcher the lot of them and declare the world-wide socialist republic. But don't let on, right?

Comrade Mercader
Delegate for Regrettable Violence

Hey, Elsie - whatever floats your boat, baaaby. How about a docking?

Coyote
Evilly Grinning Scruffy Unacceptably Randy Liberal Lefty Rambling Man

Sounds of scuffling, a thud and then feet dragging on floor...

Ahem, apologies for the lascivious remarks of our erstwhile representative on this forum. He's going to get a nasty surprise when he wakes up.

Maya Toitovna
Speaker for Home Affairs (and Keeper of the Sacred Scissors)

Well, let me be the first to say that I'm stunned. Utterly, completely, totally and irredeemably stunned. Only the other day, the Right was arguing that the UN promoted socialist, "hippy" and otherwise Leftist/liberal ideas.

Perhaps this might finally show those who argue that there's a balance.

Balance? Oh, there is a balance all-right,

On one side, Rightist Wack Jobs.

On the other, Leftist Wack Jobs.

...

On another note,

I loved that funny about the idea of a non-U.N. aligned set of states that follow marxist beliefs... It was meant to be a joke, right?

I mean, Hellooo ! ! !

Any one person here remember that thing called the Cold War? And, oh, I don't know, the amount of times we almost came to direct nuclear exchange?

And by that I mean BOOM ! exchange, not Traders Bazaar style exchange.

Its also kinda funny in a way that these marxist states in the "Real World" are pretty much screwed, that is, the ones that did not collapse into the "evils" of democracy and capitalism, and in the ones who still clung to their commie ideals, a collapse into all out anarchy and constant instability.

And its not like their not corrupt, I mean, pfffrt, people call capatilist based system corrupt, hello, look, its North Korea, hey, are they still starving their population in order to pay for their leaders dinners to be served on silver platters?

Oh, look, where did all those nuke's come from, I wonder how they were paid for.

Hey, lets all go parade in the cold so the leaders can think their doing a good job, even though I've not eaten in 3 days and my children are sick and can barely walk, which means they must stay at home in our cold hovel, un-cared for, while others force me to shuffle about, with a fake smile plastered on my face, and my last set of good clothes on my back, past the camera's, to show the world how well we live.

Oh yes, communist, leftist, marxist states are so chipper! Their movers! And shakers! Though I am thinking its be a mover or be shot in the back of the head and have the bullet billed to your surviving family members... or is that The Peoples Republic of Commie Bastards China?

And the shaking is probably due more to mal-nutrition.

Where was I, oh yeah, before my rant.

Ahem, Balance, yes this thread is proof there are Wack Jobs on both sides of the fence.

Oh, and that as a standard thing, I DO NOT like communist states in the "Real World"

Ahem,

The Rep of Komokom.

(My, this pills are very strong today... (Giggles Loudly!) OH WELL ! :D )







How fortunate to find a corporate lapdog that can actually find a bit of humour in what they say. Communist nations have only been forced into near destitution because they have been blockaded by Capitalist interests - a few straight, old, white men controlling a nations GDP with virtually no accountablility to their people. I am also referring to those fake Communist states like China, Cuba, and the post-1920's Soviet Union, which betrayed their views and bent over before the idea of making party leaders rich no matter what the cost. A world revolution is needed so that I can sit at the same table as those who now sit and beg for change outside my habitation. You might argue that people in Communist countries put on their best clothes for the cameras once in a while but I say that those in the Capitalist world long ago ceased to care about suffering in the Third World - oh yeah, you watch a small African child starve to death on t.v for twenty minuites but then turn the channel. Try adopting fourty or fifty of them, send them the tools necessary to educate themselves, and go to live with them to plan their revolution. As for Nukes some of us are willing to die for what we believe in. The line stops HERE!!!!

those fake Communist states like China, Cuba, and the post-1920's Soviet Union

So what does that leave as real Communist states? Romania? *sniggers*

How many starving African children have you adopted?

And please...there are a lot of people in this forum who sympathise with your political goals but disagree with the means to achieve them. Don't dismiss us so cheaply.

We were unaware of any trade blockade on Communist nations.

As for Nukes some of us are willing to die for what we believe in. The line stops HERE!!!!

Yes, a nuclear apocalypse is a marvellous solution to world hunger. Thank you for illuminating us.

Kamquin Dakar
Ministry of Trade and Industry

We were unaware of any trade blockade on Communist nations.

Well, there's Cuba. But it's not communist.

We were referring to this world. Unless our good friend has, as seems entirely credible, got us confused with the other UN.

We were referring to this world. Unless our good friend has, as seems entirely credible, got us confused with the other UN.

Gaaaaa! *goes mad with the strain of trying to keep track whether people are posting in-character or not and runs screaming into the night*

......anyone fancy a pint?

......anyone fancy a pint?
I'll have a glass of red wine.
Incidentally I seam to have signed an agreement saying that every drink a UN delegate buys today is on The Black New World. I can’t remember that...

Desdemona,
UN representative,
The Back New World

DO come to the UN Strangers Bar, pretty please?

Angus McPeawhistle
Joccian Rep at the UN

DO come to the UN Strangers Bar, pretty please?

Angus McPeawhistle
Joccian Rep at the UN

We respectfully recommend that you bring a hard hat and some form of weapon, however. It ain't pretty in there right now...

-DP-

Your complaining would be justified if you were a member of the organization being complained about. However, since you are not, and apparently never have been, in the UN, the ARM sees this as pointless whining. If you left the UN because you didn't like what was getting passed, then that was your choice not to be involved in the largest organization in the international community.

OOC: Komokom - are you saying the Cold War was precipitated purely by communist aggression? Not sure about that, meself. And, in fairness, none of the examples you cited were actually communist. The closest thing to a proper communist nation the real world has had is Cuba, which has done pretty well considerig all the sanctions it has suffered. Which, incidentally, are an absolute disgrace. Granted, human rights aren't great there but there are nations with far worse track records on this issue who have not had to endure decades of economic strangulation in this manner.

IC: I'm not trying to argue that communism will work. I believe it's too dependent on the goodness of human nature and is thus doomed to failure. However, neither will neoliberal capitalism work, for much the same reason.

As for our UN...when it comes down to it, we have an excellent forum here for us to air our views and debate them. It's an important venue for us to understand the myriad different views held by the peoples of this world. Slating it has having one bias or another is simply foolish. Make your voice heard.

Vlad Taneev
Speaker for the Economy

Hmmm. No, though you've pointed out something I should mention. Which I most surely do thank-you for,

What I was trying to point out in my dope'd up medicated way, (Have had nasty cold-flu-borderline pnemoina-chest inhabiting nasty), was that if we form a second party to oppose the first, there is a likely-hood that aggression of sorts, whether "cold" or "hot" could develop, due to that trick-sy human nature you mentioned.

Also your right about Cuba, after all don't they have one of the best child-literacy rats in the world, and the sanctions are rather pointless now-days...

I'm not trying to argue for capitalism over commie-ness, its just I kinda got side-tracked into how the "communist" nation of N Korea treats its people... Them and China too, 'bout time they backed off of Taiwan... Any-hoo...

I rally gotta remember what not to mix these med's with... I suppose the p*ss-up I was goig to on Friday might have to be avoided...

Where was I? Oh, yeah, Just saying I don' think we want the trouble of two parties arguing at each other over stuff, or something like that, then I started raving... My head hurts now.. I need to go lie down a tad...

The Rep of Komokom

if you oppose the un, why don't you get out?

I'm SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT. SHUT THE ---- UP!

HE'S IN HERE PRECISELY BECAUSE HE OPPOSES IT! HE WANTS TO CHANGE SOMETHING. IDIOTS!

Then why not SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP and try to persuade people with logical argument, rather then "accuse/abuse" them with your funk'd up out-rage and opinionated bias. If your not willing to listen and then reply in a civil manner, then go away and leave us alone you naughty person you.

Also, try thinking of the U.N. as a club, if the members want the club the way it is, do you really think they'll listen to some jump'd up little hopping mad out-sider who is not even a member?

The Rep of Komokom,

Capitalist Lap Dog Prostrating Before The Mighty Buck, and,

DAMN PROUD OF IT.

I will speak what I see right now, no holds barred.
The U.N. right now is ran by large amounts of Western civilization members. These people have grown up listening to capitalist views on the world. Most of them hate "commies". A large percentage think "commies" are just Russians. But I degress, this is not about Communism. These people in Western countries grow up listening to this new "Political Correctness" shit. Kids grow up fearing racism, sexism, etc. They grow up listening to all these people who say cutting trees is bad. They NEVER hear about the good products coming from the logging industry because their media is controlled by liberals! In short, we have FAR too many liberals here. They may think they are always right, but its a mild form of brainwash. Western Propaganda. Were the "Commies" REALLY so bad? 8)

1) Maybe thats because only the "westernised" nations are able to sit down and discuss things in the U.N. fashion, in order to suit their own agendas (I admit), WHILE making the world a better place, hopefully.

2) No, commies are not just Russians... their North Korean's, and their Peoples Communist Republic of China, and lets not forget Cuba... There are more, but their not really significant enough for me to be able to remember it seems... Oh, and by the way, your a bit slow off the mark to think of Russians as being commies, last I checked the former USSR or whats "left" (A pun maybe? :) ) of it had some kind of strained democratic thingy set up...

3) "Political Correctness Sh*t" my big liberal ass, what, so people should go about harming/abusing people based on skin colour? Oh, yeah, and women should not be allowed to be independant? Or able to work? And if they do should they get equal pay to their male equals? Hey, what about the Holocaust? Huh, was that a good thing? Did all those people deserve to be gassed because they wre "different" ? ? ? Go on you jack-booted little f*ck, say it.

If it was not for "Political Correctness" I'd be saying a lot more right now.

4) Maybe the reason they don't listen to people saying "Cutting down tree's is bad" is because they have decided not to? Yes, freedom to choose, that must really scare you little pro-commies... That maybe they disagree with the statement, maybe they think its okay to cut them down if its done in line with sustainibility? Pfffrt, your an idiot. I think we all know about good products out of the logging industry, we write on them, and even wipe our ass on them every day, well, most of us.

5) Don't even start me on the media, last I checked, communist states ran the media, allowing only what the government wanted to be heard to be heard, its the liberal media which talks to the people, for the people, about the people, and is run by the people, and not the governmnet. I reckon the commie sod's really do not like that for obvious reasons, can't have the truth about you coming out, heck no...

6) The commies were and are evil little sh*ts, I mean even so long after communism was basically proved to be un-sustainable, and we still have little bands of commie seperatists terrorising people in order to "educate" them, in countries which DO NOT WANT communism, like South America, or northen region in Asia. and even to a point still in Europe. Lets not even go near the horrors peratrated by the Commie governments...

Finally, go to heck you little red.

The Rep of Komokom.

Huh, try "a no holds barred" yourself.

Well, let me be the first to say that I'm stunned. Utterly, completely, totally and irredeemably stunned. Only the other day, the Right was arguing that the UN promoted socialist, "hippy" and otherwise Leftist/liberal ideas.

Perhaps this might finally show those who argue that there's a balance.

Balance? Oh, there is a balance all-right,

On one side, Rightist Wack Jobs.

On the other, Leftist Wack Jobs.

...

On another note,

I loved that funny about the idea of a non-U.N. aligned set of states that follow marxist beliefs... It was meant to be a joke, right?

I mean, Hellooo ! ! !

Any one person here remember that thing called the Cold War? And, oh, I don't know, the amount of times we almost came to direct nuclear exchange?

And by that I mean BOOM ! exchange, not Traders Bazaar style exchange.

Its also kinda funny in a way that these marxist states in the "Real World" are pretty much screwed, that is, the ones that did not collapse into the "evils" of democracy and capitalism, and in the ones who still clung to their commie ideals, a collapse into all out anarchy and constant instability.

And its not like their not corrupt, I mean, pfffrt, people call capatilist based system corrupt, hello, look, its North Korea, hey, are they still starving their population in order to pay for their leaders dinners to be served on silver platters?

Oh, look, where did all those nuke's come from, I wonder how they were paid for.

Hey, lets all go parade in the cold so the leaders can think their doing a good job, even though I've not eaten in 3 days and my children are sick and can barely walk, which means they must stay at home in our cold hovel, un-cared for, while others force me to shuffle about, with a fake smile plastered on my face, and my last set of good clothes on my back, past the camera's, to show the world how well we live.

Oh yes, communist, leftist, marxist states are so chipper! Their movers! And shakers! Though I am thinking its be a mover or be shot in the back of the head and have the bullet billed to your surviving family members... or is that The Peoples Republic of Commie Bastards China?

And the shaking is probably due more to mal-nutrition.

Where was I, oh yeah, before my rant.

Ahem, Balance, yes this thread is proof there are Wack Jobs on both sides of the fence.

Oh, and that as a standard thing, I DO NOT like communist states in the "Real World"

Ahem,

The Rep of Komokom.

(My, this pills are very strong today... (Giggles Loudly!) OH WELL ! :D )







How fortunate to find a corporate lapdog that can actually find a bit of humour in what they say. Communist nations have only been forced into near destitution because they have been blockaded by Capitalist interests - a few straight, old, white men controlling a nations GDP with virtually no accountablility to their people. I am also referring to those fake Communist states like China, Cuba, and the post-1920's Soviet Union, which betrayed their views and bent over before the idea of making party leaders rich no matter what the cost. A world revolution is needed so that I can sit at the same table as those who now sit and beg for change outside my habitation. You might argue that people in Communist countries put on their best clothes for the cameras once in a while but I say that those in the Capitalist world long ago ceased to care about suffering in the Third World - oh yeah, you watch a small African child starve to death on t.v for twenty minuites but then turn the channel. Try adopting fourty or fifty of them, send them the tools necessary to educate themselves, and go to live with them to plan their revolution. As for Nukes some of us are willing to die for what we believe in. The line stops HERE!!!!

1) That is Mister Corporate Lap-dog Sir, to you, commie. And could I interest you in some shares? :-)

2) Yes, yes, every time, blame the "Stupid White Men", lets ignore your glorious commie leaders incompetance and inability to lead, oh, not to mention their general stuff ups and the best reason of all why they failed, the aura of fear they spread which resulted in them hearing only what they wanted to, rather then facts...

3) "a few straight, old, white men controlling a nations GDP with virtually no accountablility to their people."

Heh heh heh, didn't know you were autobiographing old Stalin himself... not to mention most other communist leaders through history.

4) How about instead of trying to start a world revolution of violence and destruction to suit your ideals, why not try actually getting off of your big, red ass, and dragging yourself over to the people you talk of, rather then sitting, in your nice, cosy, "habitation". If revolution and violence are your only tools then you are already doomed to failre.

5) Actually, the "Adoption" of forty or fifty or more starving africans, then helping them plan and plot their own "revolutions" I think has led to alot of the strife in Africa in modern times. Funnily enough, old soviet Russia was behind most of that. How remarkable.

6) So you'd rather have nuclear war then peaceful discussion, well, if you'd like to "die for your ideals" like a man who goes onto a school bus and slaughters primary school children with a bomb belt, (Same as what you say but on smaller scale),

Then I can see my time here talking to you was wasted, and I spit on you and other the like, for your "fervor".

Scum.

The Rep of Komokom.

Anyways, I think that an opposing international organization might be interesting... maybe even get its own board if it becomes large enough?

I seem to have forgotten about this topic....

And in short, I can say this to that redneck up there ^ who is ranting.

COMMUNISM HAS NEVER, EVER EXISTED IN ITS TRUE FORM IN THE WORLD, EVER!

Therefore it cannot be proved whether it will work or not. And just to touch on the side of political correctism. I'm not saying racism and sexism etc are right. I'm just saying that they need not be enforced.

I'll spark some controversy:
The "Chappelle" show on Comedy Central. It makes fun of caucasians the whole show. Its still running...

Rush Limbaugh: On a sports show, he said that black quarterbacks were worse than white quarterbacks. (He got this from statistics, by the way. Its true.) Then you will note that Rush Limbaugh was kicked from the show, and the media (who is Liberal controlled) turned Rush into a drug-abusing, racist hick like our friend above. ^

Anywho, to sum up. Communism hasn't existed. "Don't knock it 'till you try it."

What we need is a group of non-UN aligned states that posses Marxist beliefs to ressurect a Warsaw-Pact type alliance to counterbalance this obviously corrupt system.

Would not such an organization be redundent... the UN is already controlled by the uber-Left.

Would just like to point out that the Warsaw Pact (in Real Life) was created to oppose NATO, not the UN. We believe that the idea of a Warsaw pact to oppose the NS UN is misleading.

Johanna Sterling,
UN Representative,
Council of Enn

:x The UN is only interested in preserving a global hegemony by forcing its members to abide by resolutions passed by even the slimmest of majorities and must be stopped. It also uses the fact that the UN forum recieves so much more press than anyone else to silence opposition to this fascist body. What we need is a group of non-UN aligned states that posses Marxist beliefs to ressurect a Warsaw-Pact type alliance to counterbalance this obviously corrupt system.

The people's Republic of Genusia
Toil and work, destroy the Capitalists and their soft Socialist lapdogs!!!!

ANd your an idiot and an a$$hole. Un ries to imporive the world and anyone who does not like the UN can just not post in this forum.

Oh, deary me!

Why do we even have a UN anymore?

I have noticed that IRL, the UN community here on NS would have been chucked out the window LONG AGO because of some of the stupidity and subsequent conflict that has been observed within the organisation. It is the fact that this is an online RPG and only the game creator can eliminate the system that meens the UN is still alive and kicking somewhat pointlessly.

In fact it even amazes why the hell some people still participate in the UN concidering the touble it is causing them.

Just some points for people to ponder.

ANd your an idiot and an a$$hole. Un ries to imporive the world and anyone who does not like the UN can just not post in this forum.

My, my... such juvenile behavior. Typical of the One-Worlders... shut-up and do it my way.

(OOC) In response to Communist Rule:

Firstly, the US media is not liberal-controlled, it is predominantly right-wing.

Secondly, Rush Limbaugh is a despicable character. I couldn't care less about his views of American 'football' but I'm with the late, great Bill Hicks when it comes to assessing his nature.

Yeah. There may be a debate within America as to whether the media's got a left or right bias, but from the point of view of anywhere outside, there's no question that it's way out on the right. The fact that this isn't recognised universally in the US just demonstrates how far the right have moved the agenda their way.

I seem to have forgotten about this topic....

And in short, I can say this to that redneck up there ^ who is ranting.

COMMUNISM HAS NEVER, EVER EXISTED IN ITS TRUE FORM IN THE WORLD, EVER!

Therefore it cannot be proved whether it will work or not. And just to touch on the side of political correctism. I'm not saying racism and sexism etc are right. I'm just saying that they need not be enforced.

I'll spark some controversy:
The "Chappelle" show on Comedy Central. It makes fun of caucasians the whole show. Its still running...

Rush Limbaugh: On a sports show, he said that black quarterbacks were worse than white quarterbacks. (He got this from statistics, by the way. Its true.) Then you will note that Rush Limbaugh was kicked from the show, and the media (who is Liberal controlled) turned Rush into a drug-abusing, racist hick like our friend above. ^

Anywho, to sum up. Communism hasn't existed. "Don't knock it 'till you try it."

Total crap, wheres your evidence, everything to be familiarised in the world and universe needs evidence to be proven, if there was no need for it, the world would definitely be corrupt due to people just starting crap'all about what they claim is good and bad and they would be allowed to go straight for it!!!

I dont really care if communism/socialism doesnt exist but another thing does, what i do care about is hardcore evidence that is strongly backed-up multiple times to set a fact within history. Even if you do have evidence, we'd like to see your valid sources or you will be shamed to nothing.

Replying to the poll, the UN is not corrupt, it just needs revising as we have too many dictators/tyrants manipulating the minds of many delivering only their point of view of the world and laws and just scrap the points all others make and laws they produce. We must banish these (tyrants more on this hand) bastards as to finally have our chance to tell the world what is infact right and wrong.

My arguement still stands regardless if others attempt to degrade it.


Tytrox Throx
2000th Generation Royal Emperor
Empire of Zortroth

Been thinking about this a bit more...

CR: COMMUNISM HAS NEVER, EVER EXISTED IN ITS TRUE FORM IN THE WORLD, EVER!

Therefore it cannot be proved whether it will work or not. And just to touch on the side of political correctism. I'm not saying racism and sexism etc are right. I'm just saying that they need not be enforced.

Oddly, CR seems to disagree with nations such as East Hackney (and, presumably, us as well) and then, as a means of argument, repeats the points they (as in East Hackney) made earlier. Arguing for argument's sake? Where do you stand?

As for political correctness - fair enough, thanks for clarifying that.

CR: Anywho, to sum up. Communism hasn't existed. "Don't knock it 'till you try it."

Not sure I agree. The problem with pure communism as I see it is the same as with pure capitalism (neoliberalism, libertarianism or however you wish to name it). It's taking ideology too far. It would be great if the right conditions for communism would come about but they're not going to. Human nature prevents ideological extremes from ever coming to fruition and the pursuit of these extremes becomes dangerous and detrimental to society. Witness numerous 'communist' states and the effects of WTO/IMF/WB 'free trade' agreements on economically struggling nations.

Some of your comments make me think you're a bit like the magazine 'Living Marxism'; i.e., not Marxist but actually libertarian and therefore something very different from communism. Again, very odd.

And now I return to whoring myself at the capitalist gang-bang that is the real world. Grr...

How about we submit a proposal where past UN legislations can be Reviewed and Repealed if necessary?

TEC: How about we submit a proposal where past UN legislations can be Reviewed and Repealed if necessary?

I'm afraid that this isn't possible - not because of a lack of support for such an idea but simply because of 'game mechanics' issues (I won't even pretend to understand the technical side of this).

How about we submit a proposal where past UN legislations can be Reviewed and Repealed if necessary?

You will be immediately ejected from the UN.

The WLP Central Committe would like to know if anyone has the cure for the terrible rash caused by gratuitous mention of the magzine 'Living Marxism'. The matter is rather urgent, thanks.

Apologies. Give yourself a good rub down with this ointment.

Mmm, tingly...