NationStates Jolt Archive


Repeal of UN resolutions

MadAnthonyWayne
22-02-2004, 08:17
I listed a proposal to repeal the "Save the Forests of the World" resolution (The Cut Down the Forests of the World" proposal) and got a message threatening to kick me out of the UN for trying to repeal a resolution and for listing my proposal in the wrong category. Furthermore, my proposal was deleted despite the fact that it had some support.

It was listed as an environmental proposal. While this does not meet your definition as "a proposal to better the environment at the expense of business", it sure seems logical that repealing an environmental resolution would be an environmental proposal just as repealing gun controls is a gun control proposal.

Two questions. One, what should have the proposal have been listed as? I'd like to know because what's the point of being in the UN if you can't make proposals and I've been given a "final warning" that I'll be booted if I list anymore proposals in the wrong category (I've only listed two proposals since I've only been in the UN for a couple of days). Two, why can't resolutions be repealed? If the US government couldn't repeal laws alcohol would be illegal while slavery would be legal!

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22-02-2004, 08:27
I'll answer the questions in inverse order:

1. Why can't resolutions be repealed?
A: Because the game flat out doesn't allow that. Passing a resolution causes national statistics to move around in various ways and the mechanism to move them back again doesn't exist as yet. This debate is very old and I recommend looking at some of the other threads on the forum both to get a better idea about the argument itself and also to avoid being warned. There's a sticky which I wrote a while back to which you are referred at the submission screen.

2. How should you have classified it?
A: Short answer, you shouldn't have classified it at all because it was a game mechanics proposal. Long answer, there is no real place to have classified it anyway. An environmental proposal will always be about improving the quality of the environment at the expense of business, so any time you seek to improve the quality of business at the expense of the environment, you are classifying something wrongly.

In relation to the rest of the argument. Firstly, it matters not one whit how much support a proposal has if it seeks to change game mechanics. I've deleted proposals with no support, right up to ones in the queue waiting to be voted on. Legality of proposal is not determined by head count. It's determined by the rules of the game, which are contained within the sticky.
Your reference to the gun control proposals is a false analogy. Gun control proposals can tighten or relax gun control - while environmental proposals can only change which industry or industries they will disadvantage.