NationStates Jolt Archive

Man do I feel depressed about the human race, or at leas the portion that plays this game. I have yet to see one good reason the passing of the latest UN resolution, and several to go against it (including a desperate plea by the creator to shoot it down at the last moment), but what happens? Those damn sheep voted it in again! So let me try and get this thing straight. The majority of the people who are active participants in this game agree that a poorly written, redundant, economically hurting proposal just got passed. WHY? Are the people of this game so dumb as to not be able to think? Is it too much to ask that the people who vote on the resolution spend about ten minutes thinking about the issue at hand rather then to send their brain-damaged neighbor "Jimmy" to randomly mash buttons on the keyboard until they hit the absolute WRONG KEY? My God people, you have a fifty percent chance of accidentally hitting the right key, but 12,460 to 7,244, the people who voted don't! This means that my theory about the next door neighbor being a retard is wrong, but not by much. My new revised theory is that YOU are the retard! Please, just do me and everyone else a favor by looking real hard at that gun you own and asking yourself, "Does the world really need another idiot to waste resources? (Of course without those people, where would politics be? But that's a rant for another day). I think I've made my point here, from now on think about what you're doing, and life for others might not suck anymore.
-And just remember, there is always plenty of... Booyah For All!

Um yeah, although the Confederacy hates almost all of the laws passed (and especially is against the resolution about to come to vote.... I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons? war is consenual? Go talk to Haile Scalisse and see what he says about "consenual war")... went off on a tangent there, sorry... killing all the sheep idea makers won't solve anything....

Anywho, I think that there should prolly be some sort of opposing body, ya know, like the rightist bloc or something... that should be supported by the site (someone else could create the mechanism for actually implmenting votes and nations and such... but for the actual site to post at least a link to it would earn some pub....)

Okay, so that was a suggestion to fundamentally change the game... I'll repost this idea in the Gameplay forum... or whatever it's called.

Still can't stand that stupid "rights and duties" bill... fight the power brotha... don't limit my ability to make war on nations smaller than me.... not that I have the patience for I-C RP anyway... but it's the principle...

-The Confederacy of Prussian Nations

I agree that many of the laws passed do violate the basic rights of a nation to dictate domestic policy and feel that a general proposal should be drawn up that states "any resolution that directly violates domestic policy shall immediatly be voided."

of course there are a few exceptions to that such as basic human rights bills and other core UN documents.

Would there be support for such a measure?

The nation of Hoty Poty will not let foreigners dictate the domestic agenda!

Majority Leader Enbay
The Republic of Hoty Poty

Anywho, I think that there should prolly be some sort of opposing body, ya know, like the rightist bloc or something... that should be supported by the site (someone else could create the mechanism for actually implmenting votes and nations and such... but for the actual site to post at least a link to it would earn some pub....)

Still can't stand that stupid "rights and duties" bill... fight the power brotha... don't limit my ability to make war on nations smaller than me.... not that I have the patience for I-C RP anyway... but it's the principle...

-The Confederacy of Prussian Nations

First, you are welcome to form your own Right Wing bloc. Nobody has done a thing to prevent that. And if you want to see a good way to set up a board, check out some of the feeder region boards. They are well organized and carry on plenty of business that you don't see on any of the NationStates forums. In fact, if you visit the North Pacific summary area through your intelligence on my nation, you'll see there is a link to the regional bloc forum right up on the top of the North Pacific summary.

Second, that stupid rights and duties bill doesn't limit your ability to make war on nations smaller than you ... though with a foundation date of Jan. 26 good luck on finding somebody to bully on and even better luck finding somebody who is interested in giving you the time of day.

[OOC: This is a game. It is one thing to complain about something, it is slightly better to make suggestions like Prussia is doing here ... but by far the best thing to do is just go out and do something. As a coach of mine once used to say, Son, start moving around. All that standing in one place and talking is killing the grass.]

I wholey disagree with your idea that killing sheep could make votes go better. As far as I can tell, they are the source of the problem. For instance, if the only people who voted were the people that thought about the resolution, then did their own research into the topic, then read the forum while spreading their own opinion, and possibly seeing a few other points of view,and then, finally vote on it, we would not have passed off the last resolution. How else do you explain that crap being allowed to show its face on my monitor and then being force to comply with it (besides my previous explaniation that they are all brain damaged)? Speaking of being forced to comply with UN resolutions, whatever happend to the enforcing of 245A? That resolution made the passing of resolutions with poor grammer and spelling NOT POSSIBLE! If you had read any other posts, that was a major complaint put out by other players. So, I guess that's the real story here, we should ignore the UN resolutions that we have passed in order to pass a really stupid bill that will just piss people off. Because isn't that's what life is all about, pissing people off? Those who voted yes seem to think so.
As per the last post saying that it is one thing to complain, another to do something, I am trying to do something by showing people the folly of their ways through the use of logic. To get people to see that they are done, you need to get up in their face about it sometimes.
- -And just remember, there is always plenty of... Booyah For All!

I posted in the Moderation forum asking them to enforce 245A by removing the forest resolution. The mods said 245A was unenforceable because it altered game play. It had apparently been passed before mods had the power to remove proposals.

The post is visible at http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124054 in the Moderation forum.

That resolution made the passing of resolutions with poor grammer and spelling NOT POSSIBLE!

The irony of it all!
The bloody irony!
:roll:

10kMichael

I'm sick of the flaming,as I see it. Always the tired out "sheep" comment about progressive/liberal resolutions making it to the floor and passing.

Always the same tired "It hurts my economy,and goes against my view of what a country should be,so those who want it shouldn't vote for it."

The whole thing gets boring,especially with the "sheep" remark,an the "retard" one is offensive,as all have the same rights and dignities.

That resolution made the passing of resolutions with poor grammer and spelling NOT POSSIBLE!

The irony of it all!
The bloody irony!
:roll:

10kMichael

I noticed it too :D
It makes me cry when I think about people like this.

I rather wonder if this *shudders at the name* cringeworthy nation has considered that maybe many nations vote for resolutions in order to spite nations who make comments such as his? I rather think that we at Albion shall gleefully do so.

G.P. Punkachu, replacing cde J. Marat,

The Supreme Soviet,

Albion.

I rather wonder if this *shudders at the name* cringeworthy nation has considered that maybe many nations vote for resolutions in order to spite nations who make comments such as his? I rather think that we at Albion shall gleefully do so.

G.P. Punkachu, replacing cde J. Marat,

The Supreme Soviet,

Albion.
Sometimes one remains faitful to a cause only because its opponents never fail to be insipid.

- My paraphrase of some famous guy, Niezche perhaps.

Admitting that my experience is limited to the USA, I have several friends in several state governments who complain in much the same way about laws that are voted by state legislatures -- poorly worded, grammar errors, and poorly conceived ideas. Fortunately for Democracy, many of these ridiculous state laws cannot be enforced, and we are saved from the senselessness of our elected officials.

The state of Florida has gone one better, so that the voting public can enact legislative policy in the form of Constitutional Amendments, including two within the last several years which threaten to require billions of dollars in tax increases. As amendments, these cannot be discarded as unenforceable, and the state government is struggling to figure out how to hand off this "hot" potato.

My point: NationStates is much more like reality than I want to admit -- and here I had hope for so much more from this simulation game... :cry:

Nathan, bass player for Jonathalia
UN Delegate for A Van Down by the River

That resolution made the passing of resolutions with poor grammer and spelling NOT POSSIBLE!

The irony of it all!
The bloody irony!


I noticed it too :D
It makes me cry when I think about people like this.

I don't know. Somebody has to work the 18 hours shifts on the Spice Harvesters.

Of course we could turn it into a game. I will bet 10 mg of Spice that Booyah for all will suspect that he / she used improper spelling and grammar while advocating the proper use of spelling and grammar only after first assuming that you and I are wrong.

ere in Bahgum, we use proper grammer and reet good old fashioned English, like they used when tha grandad were nought more than knee high to a whippet. Problem seems to be wi this new fangled queens English thingummy, it seems reet 'ard fer them young 'uns to tackle.

We reckon that all UN talk be said in Northen English, as it be phonetically closer to 'ow it were spoke in t'good old days.

By Eck,
Arthur Baggybottom *minister fer t'culture & meat & tato pie office*

There is a God! Thank you Lord for the making of intelligent people! Yes, there were spelling errors! Yes, thank you Jesus that people can read and recognize incorrect spelling! You are the people that I am trying to rally. You are the ones that can put together cohesive statements on views that will affect our nations! So while I am quite glad that we do have some people out there that think, and can catch that which is wrong, I am unhappy as to your use of this marvelous skill. Don't you see that you have the opportunity to form your own documents to convince the other side what is right and what is wrong? Honestly, I can't think of one good reason that the forest bill got passed. If you can prove me wrong go for it! I am in this discussion exactly because I wish to convince people what the right choice is, but if you can convince me that I am wrong, by all means go for it, then I could "see the light" and add my voice to the correct side. I am now spending my time analyzing the newest bill to see what should be done about it. As for the name of my nation, for that I can only defend it by stating that hey, at least you can remember it from its awfulness.
-And just remember, there is always plenty of... Booyah For All!