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UN World Humanity Tax
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Valor Knights

Description: The spread of disease, poverty and hunger worldwide is a collective problem that effects all United Nation members and regions. By utilizing a UN World Humanity Tax, even the most needy of United Nation members can benefit from research and development efforts to furthur medical advances, spare hunger, distribute medicines, and assist in the modernization of under-developed nations. Participating nations will be responsible to pay a flat UN World Humanity Tax of .50% of Gross national Product (GDP) on a monthly, quarterly, or annual basis.

United nation members receiving benefits as a result of the UN World Humanity Tax will receive benefits on a forgivable basis. Forgivable assistance will relieve the burden of repayment by United Nation members receiving aid at a future time, thus allowing the United Nations member's economy to prosper at a health pace after the assistance is discontinued. The enjoyed prosperity by any United Nations member benefiting from the UN World Humanity Tax will assist the United Nations member in growing that nations Gross Domestic Product (GDP), thus making them larger contributors to the UN World Humanity Tax.

If there is a surplus of funds as a result of the UN World Humanity Tax, additional programs could be implemented addressing such issues as alternative energy or pollution reduction. These programs can directly benefit nations that may not otherwise be considered for assistance under the original UN World Humanity Tax charter. Further programs will be voted on by the UN members at a later time when deemed most appropriate.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 147 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Feb 16 2004

Is it not likely that the most needy nations, in terms of health and welfare, are such because of their government style? This proposal needs clarification so that the UN does not start funding its more dictatorial members to oppress their people further.

NB. not that ive got anything against dictatorial nations, you understand

NB. not that ive got anything against dictatorial nations, you understand

Hi, I'm John Marat, how are you? We in Albion do have lots of things against dictatorial nations and frankly, we won't give them a red cent! They'll use the money to buy weapons, palaces and concubines-- unless we had some sort of taskforce to ensure that they didn't--which would suck up some of the money from this tax. We'd also have to have work out sanctions for UN countires who either didn't comply, or wasted the money in the above manner. And what if sanctions didn't work? Would be have to get physical, or would simply ejecting them from the UN be enough? Now, if its the latter we're talking about, we'd have to ask how we do that. And lets' face it, how would we find them in the first place? We'd have a taskforce, but it couldn't everywhere at once!

Not only this but we'd have to start new agencies to collect the tax, allocate the funds, budget for the task force...

You know, it would kind of a huge nightmare with a huge additional bureaucracy which would have to be funded by UN nations either out of this tax or from more contributions. So yeah, we couldn't support this yet.

But hey! Hey! *winks* Thanks so much for sharing!

You've been great, I've been John Marat, thanks for listening ^_^

As previously stated in your home region:

First comment, and STRONG comment: Your bill is Social Justice. Stop using perfectly good bills to render the two primary fields addressed by the UN of late (Human Rights and Furtherment of Democracy) more strongly held.

This is a welfare issue, not a rights issue. We immediately submit that it must be readdressed as such before we can offer any support for this act, however well written.

(In game, your bill does not produce the effect you wish it to. If you want it to produce the effect it's designed for, make it Social Justice instead of Human Rights.)

NB. not that ive got anything against dictatorial nations, you understand

Hi, I'm John Marat, how are you? We in Albion do have lots of things against dictatorial nations and frankly, we won't give them a red cent! They'll use the money to buy weapons, palaces and concubines-- unless we had some sort of taskforce to ensure that they didn't--which would suck up some of the money from this tax. We'd also have to have work out sanctions for UN countires who either didn't comply, or wasted the money in the above manner. And what if sanctions didn't work? Would be have to get physical, or would simply ejecting them from the UN be enough? Now, if its the latter we're talking about, we'd have to ask how we do that. And lets' face it, how would we find them in the first place? We'd have a taskforce, but it couldn't everywhere at once!

Not only this but we'd have to start new agencies to collect the tax, allocate the funds, budget for the task force...

You know, it would kind of a huge nightmare with a huge additional bureaucracy which would have to be funded by UN nations either out of this tax or from more contributions. So yeah, we couldn't support this yet.

But hey! Hey! *winks* Thanks so much for sharing!

You've been great, I've been John Marat, thanks for listening ^_^

Is it just me, or is it every time I step in to a topic now I seem to feel as though I need to make sure if this guy has posted yet, I tells ya, this commie has got the smarts where it counts! :wink:

(P.S. they would be "red" cents, wouldn't they! :D )

The Rep of Komokom.

Not only smarts, he's got that simultaneously annoying and hilarious thing down pat. Hear Hear, John Marat.

Nations can enter individual consortiums for development on their own initiative. This should be sufficient.

Is it possible to edit resolutions to address concerns such as these that I am reading?

Is it possible to edit resolutions to address concerns such as these that I am reading?
Proposals up for review or vote cannot be edited in place. Once they get submitted, they in their final form.

However ...
If the proposing nation has any sense about them, they will listen to the critiques and suggestions offered here and elsewhere, and edit their proposals before resubmitting. Frisbeeteria highly recommends a sort of open committee where the proposal is modified and adjusted over the course of several days until it's in it's best possible form. Then it can be submitted.

To late then for this one, but thanks

To late then for this one, but thanks
Only too late if it makes quorum. Most proposals don't make it their first time through. That gives you plenty of time between to fix it up.

And we'll be glad to help you polish it if you are willing. Just ask.

I would like to start with "polishing" this one.

Alot of good points being brought up, re-writing, editing and posting on this topic, in this thread, would be useful.

Thanks

All nations are required to pay dues to the United Nations for being members. This is what forms the United Nations budget for running. These dues are already based on each nation paying a share of the UN budget equal to its percentage of the world GNP.

It would be wiser to consider this as two seperate bills.

1) An increase to the UN budget for UN sponsored health research and medical aid although the UN divison known as the World Health Organization handles this matter

2) A law demanding a sharing of medical research results to be shared among members so that all can benefit from the medical research.

This is not to say that Shirresh will support either though our population would perhaps be willing to contribute to number 1. As we pay heavily for internal medical research as we do not like suffering from disease, we are not sure that we wish to circulate our results without some reinbursement for the private concerns that have paid the cost of the research. We would be willing to share results of Government sponsored research results.

I have a few points about this resolution:

By utilizing a UN World Humanity Tax, even the most needy of United Nation members can benefit from research and development efforts to furthur medical advances, spare hunger, distribute medicines, and assist in the modernization of under-developed nations.
How is it decided who gets money? How long do they get money for? How much of the money gained from the tax do they get? What happens to the rest?

Participating nations will be responsible to pay a flat UN World Humanity Tax of .50% of Gross national Product (GDP) on a monthly, quarterly, or annual basis.
Will it be a monthly, quarterly, or annual basis? This needs to be made clear.

If there is a surplus of funds as a result of the UN World Humanity Tax, additional programs could be implemented addressing such issues as alternative energy or pollution reduction. These programs can directly benefit nations that may not otherwise be considered for assistance under the original UN World Humanity Tax charter. Further programs will be voted on by the UN members at a later time when deemed most appropriate.

I'm completely agaisnt this part of the proposal. A tax used to provide humanitarian aid should only be used to provide humanitarian aid.

Yngwie Malmsteen,
Nibbleton UN Ambassador

It seems like a reasonable suggestion to tax UN nations for providing the basic human rights of world citizens. In response to the issue of not giving money to oppressive or otherwise ineffective governments, couldn't there be some criteria about which nations receive aid? I believe this belongs in a future proposal, which I would support.

The proposal, perhaps restructured, is about human rights and so is within the UN mandate.

Sounds good, it'll have my vote, and hopefully my delagates vote

The Incorporated States of Ragasa has a thriving economy due a combination of low taxes, low government spending, and low governmental regulation.

At our current tax rate of 4% of GDP, a 0.5% increase in taxes represents 12.5% increase in our taxes. We don't have social programs and we have poverty problems of our own. Considering that neediness of a country would be measured by per capita GDP, those countries with extremely socially progressive policies would benefit more than those countries that have economies which practice good economics.

I'm not giving a red cent to some nebulous UN organization to create some organization with some well-paid economists and managers to create some misguided policies based off their PhD thesis.

Until I see some capital controls, how "poverty" is measured, and specific project propositions, the Incorporated States of Ragasa will never support such a poorly posed proposition.

This is a very sinister-sounding resolution.

thats bullshit cuz my tax is high enough with my military prog
P.S ill fite ta stop dis from comin in

Bahgum will not be taxed to bail out nations too lame to sort themselves out. We have party hats, beer and cart-horses to pay for, so no we don't agree with this.

If the resolution doesn't get passed in it's current state, then I will enjoy re-writing using all the posted ideas.

I agree with Kokablel, that this is a social issue and will make the appropriate changes in the new resolution.

I agree that there must be policies in place to prohibit countries from misusing this aid, and this will be addressed in the new resolution as well as descriptive criteria on how countries qualify for aid.

I disagree with a law making it mandatory for all medical sharing, but would propose a policy in regards to all UN World Humanity Tax sponsored research and development progress to be shared among UN members.

The purpose of this tax is to benefit all UN nation members.

The immediate mandate of the charter is to address research and development efforts to furthur medical advances, spare hunger, distribute medicines, and assist in the modernization of under-developed nations within the UN membership. Initially this goal will be pressing on the UN World Humanity tax resources, leaving it very doubtful there would be a surplus. As underdeveloped nations begin to prosper they will become larger contributors to the Un World Humanity Tax. This will help to replenish funds utilized paving the way for newer programs such as alternative energy or pollution reduction, whatever is deemed most appropriate at the time. For example pollution reduction is to the benfit of all UN member nations thus would be worthy of funds from this reolution in time if and when there is a surplus.