NationStates Jolt Archive


Crisis Point: Joccian Genocide

Mikitivity
14-02-2004, 03:27
My government is concerned not only by the events unfolding in Joccia, but the lack of attention the crisis point is recieving in the NationStates United Nations. Ironically, I've seen more attention to the crisis outside of the UN. This in mind, my government is rushing to create a draft proposal, and would like to get a feel where this body stands on the Joccian Genocide.
14-02-2004, 03:45
We of the empiric provences are dismayed and horrified at the events taking place. However, we do not understand the UN to be a policing force as such, since it has no armed force to speak of. Certainly however, any nation committing such atriocities should be expelled from the UN immediatley. Unless it be us, because weve got good reason.
_Myopia_
14-02-2004, 13:53
Could you supply links to all the threads involved, or at least a brief overview? I have read a couple of threads on this but I'm sure I haven't seen the whole thing.

As to a proposal, well, in NS proposals aren't geared to achieving specific change in any one nation. If you're intending to draft something that would completely outlaw everywhere what Joccia's doing, then I'd like to see how you're going to do it, because from what I have seen it isn't even a matter of banning the death penalty (which, btw, sadly never works when someone proposes it on NS), because they're operating under the guise of euthanasia, defining the things they don't like as terminal illnesses.

Which is almost exactly what I was saying would happen when Grande didn't bother to address the problems in his euthanasia proposal text before re-submitting it!! Oh, and btw, Grande if you're reading this, you still haven't told me why you felt it unnecessary to fix the glaring errors and loopholes which a bunch of us helpfully pointed out to you on your second attempt at passing the resolution.
14-02-2004, 14:10
Gentlemen, Other Nations, Please, please stop trying to find ways to stop Joccia from pursuing her legitimate and lawful business.

I state again that we are acting wholly within the terms of the legalisation of euthanasia as layed down and passed by the United Nations.

If anyone was to be accused of crimes against Humanity it should surely be GRANDE, the author of this genocidal licence.

We the Joccian King were concerned with reducing the suffering of our people to an acceptable level.

The new Law which I enacted recently, superceding the initial law, is how we thought the Euthanasia bill should have been worded.
14-02-2004, 14:13
PS to the above.

I'm sorry Myopia, I don't believe Grande has the bottle to even read any of this stuff. Either lack of intelligence, or worse, total Arrogance! :evil:
_Myopia_
14-02-2004, 15:18
Yeah, generally when i've managed to find a thread he's on talking about the resolution, he just skirts the question and claims the support of the (apparently zombified sheep) masses.
14-02-2004, 15:27
If the law has been passed allowing the ethuanasia (sorry about my spelling) the it is surely up to each particular country to decide whether or not they are going to accept it.

If they wish to have members of their own country killed, if they are on their "death beds" already with no treatment or pain relief available then surely they can decide what to do with the patients, with the patients concent of course.
14-02-2004, 16:30
If the law has been passed allowing the ethuanasia (sorry about my spelling) the it is surely up to each particular country to decide whether or not they are going to accept it.

If they wish to have members of their own country killed, if they are on their "death beds" already with no treatment or pain relief available then surely they can decide what to do with the patients, with the patients concent of course.

But that's the whole point! If you are a member of the United Nations, you are not 'allowed' to have Euthanasia - YOU ARE FORCED TO LEGALISE IT! Not only that, you are forced to legalise all of the wooly and ambiguous terms contained in the resolution. Joccia did just that. The result was the mass termination of the mentally ill, aids sufferers, gay rights activists, political reformers, prostitutes, and Grande only knows who else!

The resolution did not stop at those who "are on their "death beds" already with no treatment or pain relief available" It went on to give the right in law for anyone to be killed.