One Levelized tax rate
I am wanting to have someone propose a levelized tax rate of 35% on all income of every nation that will never increase or decrease. This way with every citizen of every nation will have a level playing field and a far greater chance at survival. Now say a nation would need more money for a certain cause then they could invoke a manadatory one time donation of all it's people. That way the government gets the money they need and the people won't die from overtaxation. If you support this idea make a proposal to the un and I and all my endorsing nations will support you.
Not only is this not a matter for the UN (it's game mechanics), it isnt very well thought out.
Communist nations effectively have a 100% income tax rate, and changing this would ruin the regimes.
A fully Capitalist (or Captializt, as Mr. Barry would have up believe :P) nation would have no tax, and therefore forcing it would casue economic collapse.
This poll certainly gets a "No" vote
Yngwie Malmsteen,
Nibbleton UN Ambassador
Sophista
08-02-2004, 20:35
Hear, hear. The nation of Sophista also politely declines.
Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Commerce Heights
08-02-2004, 22:08
Even if this proposal weren't a game mechanics proposal, why 35% and not some other number? ;)
The Global Market
08-02-2004, 22:35
I am wanting to have someone propose a levelized tax rate of 35% on all income of every nation that will never increase or decrease. This way with every citizen of every nation will have a level playing field and a far greater chance at survival. Now say a nation would need more money for a certain cause then they could invoke a manadatory one time donation of all it's people. That way the government gets the money they need and the people won't die from overtaxation. If you support this idea make a proposal to the un and I and all my endorsing nations will support you.
35% is way too high...
We are proud of our FISCAL RESPONSIBLITY and LIMITED GOVERNMENT that allow our government to get by on excise taxes and low-rate sales and import duties alone.
The afforementioned proposal is preposterous. The nation of Rebeland has socialist tendencies, and as such has an extravagant taxation rate. Your capitalist taxing methods are primitive and innefecient.
We don't need taxes or government regulation. There's no capitalism to control.
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every nation should have one level tax rate - that of 0%.
Such is the will of the pirates.
Mikitivity
09-02-2004, 08:59
Not only is this not a matter for the UN (it's game mechanics), it isnt very well thought out.
Communist nations effectively have a 100% income tax rate, and changing this would ruin the regimes.
A fully Capitalist (or Captializt, as Mr. Barry would have up believe :P) nation would have no tax, and therefore forcing it would casue economic collapse.
This poll certainly gets a "No" vote
Yngwie Malmsteen,
Nibbleton UN Ambassador
And yet, my nation is upder the impression that this poll and possible proposal are nothing but a veiled attempt of Capitalist nations to FORCE their will upon the world.
This proposal ranks right up there with our counter proposal to FORCE every diplomat to wear black eyeliner. Silly yes. But at least diplomats would look SpOoKy. Other than that, there is no difference at all between the two proposals.
Ecopoeia
09-02-2004, 17:09
Speaker on Economy Vlad Taneev stares at his screen in astonishment, shakes his head and looks around for a bottle of Ecopoeian 12-yr-old single malt that just might restore his faith in humanity...
...he wakes up several hours later with the peculiar and unwelcome sensation that a thousand homicidal gnomes are trying to prise open his skull with chisels. He looks at the screen through bleary eyes, vision throbbing with pain...
...and the damn proposal about income tax is still there. He gives the matter at hand serious consideration. And uncorks another bottle.
Mikitivity
09-02-2004, 18:46
Mikitivity
09-02-2004, 18:51
Speaker on Economy Vlad Taneev stares at his screen in astonishment, shakes his head and looks around for a bottle of Ecopoeian 12-yr-old single malt that just might restore his faith in humanity...
...he wakes up several hours later with the peculiar and unwelcome sensation that a thousand homicidal gnomes are trying to prise open his skull with chisels. He looks at the screen through bleary eyes, vision throbbing with pain...
...and the damn proposal about income tax is still there. He gives the matter at hand serious consideration. And uncorks another bottle.
Would it be possible for you to share any other bottles of the Ecopoeian malts you find?
Also, look on the bright side. Should this seriously be considered, my government is prepared to write a proposal mandating an international Kilt day. Naturally it will be set sometime in the winter in each hemisphere, meaning it will happen different times. Basically, it is my governments opinion that once Princessez open the flood gates allowing for nations to enforce their private will on the world, that we should act quickly. Klatuu wool makes some of the nicest sweaters and we'll need the extra revenue after the Princessezese have had their way with the world.
Anyway, I'm sure we can find a nice looking Kilt for everyone.
Frisbeeteria
09-02-2004, 18:57
Speaker on Economy Vlad Taneev stares at his screen in astonishment, shakes his head and looks around for a bottle of Ecopoeian 12-yr-old single malt that just might restore his faith in humanity...
[singing in thick brogue]
Aye, me lads, 'tis a sad sad day,
When national freedoms get pissed away.
And a bottle of Malt is older still
Than the author of this "supposed" Bill ...
[passes bottle, significantly lighter, back to Mikitivity and Ecopoeia]
Ecopoeia
09-02-2004, 19:15
Wha'? Wossa'? Joo, joo, joo know 'ow much a fuggin' bo'le a, erm, fingy costs? Eh? EH? I'll fuggin-, erm...
Apologies, we've just had to put Vlad to bed. It's better this way.
MIKITIVITY: "Would it be possible for you to share any other bottles of the Ecopoeian malts you find?"
My pleasure. I'm afraid our fair isle is somewhat wanting in peat so our whiskys tend to be of the smooth, delicate variety. We also specialise in fine porters and stouts (malt, oyster, imperial) if you're interested.
Compulsory kilts? Does it improve human rights? Yes? Smashing, it's got my vote.
'Pop'
Now here's a very fine whisky...care for some? You too, Frisbeeteria, the more the merrier. Never realised you were such a fine songsmith.
Chin, chin.
pour me a glass of Wee Bairns, make it a double! Nothing governing under the influence.
Ecopoeia
09-02-2004, 19:41
Here's a generous wee dram, my friend.
*Gulp. Savour. Smile.*
Well, time for me to leave. Here's to the next, er, discussion of politics. Oops, mind the step, swear it wasn't there before...
Mikitivity
10-02-2004, 05:00
Compulsory kilts? Does it improve human rights? Yes? Smashing, it's got my vote.
Aye, that is our aim.
If everybody has to learn to write, then everybody should learn how to cross their legs when seated -or- how to not care at all.
*hick*
Can I have some more of that?
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 11:35
The Community of Ecopoeia Council of Speakers begs forgiveness for the brevity of any postings today. Some bugger drank all the whisky last night and we're devoting our efforts to finding out who it was. Suspicion falls on Samuel Smith, Speaker for t'Pub.
Good day
PS: Assuming we haven't been drunk dry, we're quite happy to open talks with nations that may wish to purchase a few crates of finest malt. The medium of exchange is left open, though the latest fashion craze amongst young males seems to be for thick, patterned skirts...
Frisbeeteria
10-02-2004, 15:22
The Community of Ecopoeia Council of Speakers begs forgiveness for the brevity of any postings today. Some bugger drank all the whisky last night and we're devoting our efforts to finding out who it was. Suspicion falls on Samuel Smith, Speaker for t'Pub.
Sorry, mate. We'll take the fall on this one.
In the meantime, accept this mollification from the Frisbeeterian Delegacy. We will deliver a case of Frisbeeterian Brandy to your suite, and arrange delivery of two more cases of that remarkable Ecopoeia Single Malt, (with your assistance, please), entirely at our expense. What the heck, we're on expense account anyway.
Frisbeeterian Brandy has a uniquely tantalizing signature flavor, and we hope you enjoy it. It's one of the newer products from Frisbeeterian BioSciences, Inc. We hope you'll relish being among the first to try it, even though it hasn't completed all the clinical trials required for genetically modified products. We certainly enjoy it.
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 15:55
"Sorry, mate. We'll take the fall on this one."
That's very kind of you; we demand no recompense as it is always a pleasure to entertain a worthy guest. Our Speaker for the Economy, Vlad Taneev, is sadly confined to his bed with what appears to be a particularly savage migraine. In his absence we are quite happy to ignore any costs we have incurred.
Ecopoeian brandy is rather insipid, so we would be delighted to sample your wares with a view to establishing a regular trade of the fine spirits we respectively specialise in. Our policy on genetically modified products centres more on the potential for exploitation by private enterprise rather than the hysterical non-scientific objections often voiced by the media. We will simply licence the brandy to several co-operatives for distribution, if you have no objections.
As for the whisky - we have many fine malts, mostly distilled by the follically blessed inhabitants of the northern highlands of our fair isle (a region known as Ochayepoeia).
Obviously, further, uh, tasting sessions may be necessary...
East Hackney
10-02-2004, 16:38
From a comfortable reclining position on the floor of the Yeltsin Bar, Comrade Guevara, Delegate for Rum and Other Revolutionary Beverages, signals his desire - with the aid of a crack team of translators to interpret his slurred words and extravagant gestures - to trade a couple of cases of Ecopoeia's renowned whisky for a barrel or two of East Hackney's People's Revolutionary Rum, notorious worldwide for its ability to inspire insurgent fervour and proper Marxist thought.
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 16:50
We're delighted that our humble malts are gaining such widespread recognition. Rum consumption has been on the up in recent times and we simply don't have the stocks to cope with the demand. An ongoing exchange with our charming ACA neighbours would appear to be the perfect solution. As for the Marxist fervour...well, lively political discourse is always welcome here.
We note that Mr Guevara does not appear to be in full possession of his faculties. Given this, we have drawn up some, ahem, specially binding contracts for him to sign.
*Sweet smiles*
Perhaps the Anti-Capitalist Alliance ought to be renamed the Alcoholic Comrades Anonymous...
Frisbeeteria
10-02-2004, 16:59
Wot ever happened to that, ummm, Princessez delegate person? Weren't they going on about some sort of tax thingie? It seems such a long time ago ...
East Hackney
10-02-2004, 17:02
*Comrade Chomsky, Delegate for Foreign Affairs, snatches a sheaf of papers out of the unresisting hands of a tired and emotional Comrade Guevara and leafs through them*
Hmm. We note that the proposed trade deal would seem to involve us ceding our entire national rum output, in perpetuity, to Ecopoeia, along with the dialectical theory behind the creation of our People's Revolutionary Rum. In exchange for this, it seems to be proposed that we receive, quote, "whatever's left of the paint-stripper once Vlad Taneev's been put to bed".
In light of this information, we must respectfully decline Ecopoeia's generous offer and propose a counter-offer, which we suggest is discussed over a drink *uncorks bottle, surreptitiously shakes mysterious white powder into it*
Comrade Chomsky, Delegate for Foreign Affairs
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 17:23
*The Ecopoeian delegation huddle together and whisper frantically. After much heated discussion, Speaker for t'Pub Samuel Smith is pushed forwards. He looks around and bites his lip nervously. The remainder of the delegation turn and treat the East Hackney representatives with unnervingly large grins. And start inching backwards towards the door.*
Ha ha ha. Ha. Um. Glad you enjoyed our little joke there. Please take this as our graceful acceptance of revised trading terms: bottle for bottle, equally valued. Comrade. Aha, ha.
*The sound of scampering footsteps. A pause. The door swings shut with a soft thud.*
Meanwhile...
"Wot ever happened to that, ummm, Princessez delegate person? Weren't they going on about some sort of tax thingie? It seems such a long time ago ..."
*Vlad Taneev awakes with a start. He groans. As his vision clears he notices that he is gripping a sheer rock face. He screams with fright and fearfully looks down. And then realises that he is gripping the stone floor of his austere bed chamber. He slowly gets to his feet, sways and staggers to the computer scree. A new message. "Tax thingie"? He scours the past records...*
Uniform 35% what? Are they insane? Where's that whisky? Damnit - none left! But what's this? Frisbeeterian brandy. Strange, where the hell did that come from? Ah, well, a wee drop can't hurt...
Yes - it should be set at a universal 100% and the state will give allowances to those that need it. Pay should be by ration card to ensure a fair allocation of resources.
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 18:21
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 18:22
CASTLE HILLS: "Yes - it should be set at a universal 100% and the state will give allowances to those that need it. Pay should be by ration card to ensure a fair allocation of resources."
Sorry, I'm confused. What's that got to do with booze?
Ecopoeia
10-02-2004, 18:23
Bloomin' server.