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UN Proposal: Universal Ban on Death Penalty

Superpower07
07-02-2004, 14:01
Universal Ban on Death Penalty
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Superpower07

Description: It has been proven that states/regions which do not use the Death Penalty have fewer crimes

WHERAS
The highest sentence shall be Life in Prision with NO chance of parole WHATSOEVER

WHERAS
The defendant must go through due process of the law, have a FAIR TRIAL and be found guilty by a jury of 12 people before being sentenced.

WHERAS
Those sentenced to Life in Prision shall be kept in a prision in an isolated part of the world, though they will have news of the outside world, and they will be kept under strict but humane security.

WHERAS
There shall be but TWO exceptions to the proposal/resolution: Terrorists and World Leaders convicted of haneous enough crimes (including but not limited to: mass murder, major civil rights violations, etc.) shall face the possiblity of capital punishment
Emperor Matthuis
07-02-2004, 16:07
Universal Ban on Death Penalty
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Superpower07

Description: It has been proven that states/regions which do not use the Death Penalty have fewer crimes

WHERAS
The highest sentence shall be Life in Prision with NO chance of parole WHATSOEVER

WHERAS
The defendant must go through due process of the law, have a FAIR TRIAL and be found guilty by a jury of 12 people before being sentenced.

WHERAS
Those sentenced to Life in Prision shall be kept in a prision in an isolated part of the world, though they will have news of the outside world, and they will be kept under strict but humane security.

WHERAS
There shall be but TWO exceptions to the proposal/resolution: Terrorists and World Leaders convicted of haneous enough crimes (including but not limited to: mass murder, major civil rights violations, etc.) shall face the possiblity of capital punishment




To me, this is not an international issue, i am fine deciding whether this should be legal in my own empire. :)
07-02-2004, 21:33
I think the death penalty is a god send. With it i have a really low crime rate and i think it should be kept.
07-02-2004, 21:44
If we ban the death penalty then our prisons would be filled with prisoners, taxes will raise 'cuz we would have to maintain these prisoners that really dont diserve to be maintained regardles that there in prison or not. The death penalty is the best way to get rid of terrorist, murderers and pedafilist.
07-02-2004, 21:44
If we ban the death penalty then our prisons would be filled with prisoners, taxes will raise 'cuz we would have to maintain these prisoners that really dont diserve to be maintained regardles that there in prison or not. The death penalty is the best way to get rid of terrorist, murderers and pedafilist.
Ecopoeia
09-02-2004, 12:12
The death penalty is no more a crime deterrent than mandatory gun ownership. It is also illogical and inhumane.

Art Randolph
Speaker on Legal Affairs
Dyelli Beybi
09-02-2004, 12:26
Dyelli Beybi disagrees most wholeheartedly. The death penalty is a necessary way of eliminating oposition parties.
09-02-2004, 14:36
couldn't agree more. Where would the provences be if we couldn't round up and shoot religious people? Besides, even if we did oppose the death penalty, we would not seek to impose the ban on all nations. We are in favour of brave resolutions that improve the world, and we voted for the legalise prostitution and euthenasia bills, but this is going too far in the wrong political direction. It is not about human welfare, but the political views of the few imposed on the many. I call all progressive nations to reject this violation of trust.
09-02-2004, 14:47
With euthanasia, there is no need for a death penalty. :lol:
09-02-2004, 16:02
well my country keep crime to a minimum, I still see a point in it. There are some where they cannot be rediemed, and are just a plague. such as for murder.
Ecopoeia
09-02-2004, 16:28
Sigh. In response to the likes of Dyelli Beybi: yes, the death penalty is a good thing to have if you wish to be a tyrant. I concede that. However, it is not correct to argue for it on a 'crime prevention' basis. One could quite easily use statistics on the subject to support both sides of the argument. Here in Ecopoeia, we oppose it on moral and logical grounds and will not change our position.

Were this proposal to achieve quorum, we will vote 'no' as the final clause is unacceptable to us. The death penalty will NEVER be adopted in this country, no matter the circumstances. Human Rights, Strength: Strong? Nonsense.
09-02-2004, 19:47
Lubria has two points, the first is parliamentary, the second has to do with the content of the bill.

When writing a resolution, Whereas statements are the proof for the necessity of the resolution. E.g. Whereas Saddam Hussein is a very bad man. Therefore statements state your plain of action. E.g. Therefore he must be removed from power. You’ve made no statements in regards to why your resolution is necessary, only points of action.

Second, Lubria believes this is not a matter for international regulation. What would be an issue to consider for international regulation would be a proposed resolution on extradition treaties from countries without the death penalty to countries with the death penalty, or vise versa. That is an issue between nations, not within them. The only times the UN should interfere in the internal affairs of Nations is if there are clear and continued violations of human rights.
Berkylvania
09-02-2004, 20:45
The right smiley and ever cognizant nation of Berkylvania would like to extend on the points made by the most aware nation of Lubria and question exactly why this resolution not only seeks to enforce a mandatory scentencing structure on all foriegn nations, but also a system of trial. Whereas Berkylvania uses the standard 12 peer jury system of trial, we are more than aware that other nations may not. Why are you including this specific system as part of your resolution? What advantages does it offer over, say, a three member panel of unknowns who decide both guilt and penalty? If you're going to include it, you had better be prepared to justify it.

While the nation of Berkylvania agrees that the death penalty is more an indictment of a society's inability to address the needs of it's citizenry than a useful deterrant to social anarchy, we do not feel that this resolution embodies a satisfactory solution.

We also agree that, should a society choose to define criminal tendency as an "incurable disease", the euthanasia proposal recently passed into law easily bypasses any legislation to outlaw death penalities.