NationStates Jolt Archive


Endorse the Android warrior technology proposal!

03-02-2004, 20:19
Here is the text of the proposal, which is listed under the proposals for the UN.

Android warrior technology

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Catatonius

Description: The nation of Catatonius proposes a bill regarding the growing nano-technology industry. With this new bill, it will be legal to adopt android warriors into the ranks of military forces of all UN member nations under the following stipulations:

- They must not be used to oppress the people of said nations. They are meant as deterrance, but in the case of war they could prove quite efficient.

- Each android counts as one person, and have the rights of a normal human being.

- Only volunteers would be admitted into the android-transformation program. Compulsory conscription into android-transformation programs is not allowed.

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Please endorse this! -- Catatonian ambassador to the U.N.
04-02-2004, 00:12
The bump!
04-02-2004, 05:14
More endorsements would be appreciated.
Frisbeeteria
04-02-2004, 05:20
Nobody is responding or endorsing because they, like Frisbeeteria, don't see any need or point in this resolution. Bumping won't help that.
Sophista
04-02-2004, 07:05
Upon reading about this proposal in our nation's newspapers, many of our citizens were confused. The question most often asked?

"How does inviting countries to build larger armies increase the stability of interntional relations?"

The United Nations is an organization devoted to promoting peace and cooperation; this proposed resolution will accomplish neither goal. Thus, the nation of Sophista declines to support it, and urges other nations to show a similar stance.

While I whole-heartedly agree with the analysis promoted by the representative from National Delegates, the nation of Sophista must side with Illaria and others on this issue. It is not the realm of the United Nations to shape the world in the image of its majority. Simply because an idea works in your country doesn't mean it will work in another, and lets not even get into the question of a nation's sovereign right to educate its citizens as they please.

Let the nations choose their own course. If they don't want to teach logic, so be it. If anything, it makes the citizens of countries where logic is appreciated that much better in comparison.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs
04-02-2004, 11:37
Illaria worries that android warriors will change war even more into a game than it already is, while increasing nations's beliefs that they are already invincible. We do not support this resolution.

We also acknowledge and thank the representative for Sophista for the mention.
Greenspoint
04-02-2004, 13:56
The Rogue Nation of Greenspoint wishes to ask the purpose behind a proposal that dictates who or what we can and must allow into our military forces, and then in the next breath dictates in what manner these new members of our military can and will be deployed.

As a secondary issue, we are also confused by the phrase "...android-transformation program." Are you speaking of transforming androids in to soldiers? Or are you misusing the word android here and thinking of a cyborg, which is part human, part machine? As we understand it, Androids, being a type of robot, do not even have legal status as citizens nor are viewed as sentient in some nations that have them, so the stipulation of "Only volunteers..." seems irrelevant.

James Moehlman
Asst. Manager ico U.N. Affairs
04-02-2004, 14:08
Illaria worries that android warriors will change war even more into a game than it already is, while increasing nations's beliefs that they are already invincible. We do not support this resolution.

We also acknowledge and thank the representative for Sophista for the mention.
The Ultimate Delegate of Germany and France agrees.
OOC: Show me even one android that is ready for battle!
04-02-2004, 14:50
I like this proposal, but what gives its author the right to dictate how and when a country may use its own army?
NEWS FOR ILLARIA: war is a game, like it or die by it.
04-02-2004, 15:14
Illaria would like to know whether Red Empiric Provences has ever actually experienced a war firsthand.

"War" may be a game in the largest, most removed sense... but the reason we remember large wars is the human cost. The cost in lives, ideology, and morality is what makes wars great. Wars are great because we remembered why we dont fight wars and instead strive for peace.

Soldiers struggling through machine gun fire are not playing a game, they're surviving or dying, and even if it were a game, the point is that it's their life or death that matters.

Androids... it is far easier to laugh and say "oh look, a game" when you see hordes of androids beating the oil out of eachother. Yet, these androids are somehow human (not sure how that worked... catatonius was vague)... and so they still exist.

Wars are not just "My troops blow up your building, we win." Wars are battles over an idea where the assets and lives of one belief fight to preserve that idea. We can't let this process become nothing more than a large fireworks display with someone losing some money and that's it.

Finally, if robitic units were used on troops, where is the risk to the side with robots? Robots are replaceable... soldiers die and they dont respawn back in the base...

If androids are used, there'd be no reason not to fight wars constantly... it'd be a battle of economics, not ideology. We ask, why war?
04-02-2004, 16:46
Son of a...our proposal writer confused Android with Cyborg. Don't worry, he'll be fired now. Move along, people, move along.

-- Catatonian ambassador to the U.N.
Sophista
04-02-2004, 17:51
Regardless of which technology you are attempting to implement forcibly along borders, the nation of Sophista still encourages other nations to vote against these measures. Remember, we are assembled here to promote peace and stability, not add a new dimension to war. And lets not even get into the question of funding. How many of you have a few billion menk lying around, waiting to be put to good use? And for those of you that do, wouldn't it be better spent on initiatives that will specifically benefit your own country? Let these questions guide your decision.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Sophista
04-02-2004, 17:51
Regardless of which technology you are attempting to implement forcibly along borders, the nation of Sophista still encourages other nations to vote against these measures. Remember, we are assembled here to promote peace and stability, not add a new dimension to war. And lets not even get into the question of funding. How many of you have a few billion menk lying around, waiting to be put to good use? And for those of you that do, wouldn't it be better spent on initiatives that will specifically benefit your own country? Let these questions guide your decision.

Sincerely yours,
Daniel M. Hillaker
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Emperor Matthuis
04-02-2004, 18:41
Seems like another droid proposal to me, :? but no i will not endorse it with my u.n puppet since it is too unrealistic :)
04-02-2004, 18:52
You are building androids and getting other nations to propose the proposel so nations have more power and dictaters in the UN could take avantage of that and androids can go wrong and try and take over the world maybe
Berkylvania
04-02-2004, 19:32
The geekily farseeing while sultry and purring nation of Berkylvania sees a potential benefit to using mechanical combatants in war efforts. However, as all of our androids are currently being refitted using the "Bambi 6.9" pleasure upgrade to comply with recent UN legislation regarding prostitution, we would be unable to significantly modify our current standing army for some time.

This is also true for cyborg attachments, as many entrepreneurial are currently being fitted with "The Sexinator" attachments or the ever popular "Climaxitron 2004."
04-02-2004, 19:48
Remote warfare would destroy the world we are in.
The main reason for antiwar reason is often the fact that men's lives are put on the line. This forces the government to to seriously consider their position on war and often deters them. Just look at the war in Vietnam or the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. No support = collapse of government.