sodomy laws
McLaughland
03-02-2004, 10:14
I have stuck a proposal in, go and read it, then get your delegate to endorse it.
Sodomy is not the cause of evil, and there are many cultures in the world that totally accept it. Banning Sodomy make it illegal and puts people in a position to be arrested and jailed for something sexual.
Very simple law that shall state:
Countries shall repeal their sodomy laws.
No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created.
No Laws limiting the use of condoms shall be created.
Huh?
I think you may have posted this in the wrong forum.
Monkeypimp
03-02-2004, 10:54
wrong forum.
This is some seriously funny stuff.
wrong forum.
I think it was posted here for a reason, i.e the proposal is up in UN, but since everyone cannot post there (or vote on proposals) McLaughland posted a memo here just so everyone can have a look & then discuss it with their Regional UN rep, who will then be able to vote yay or nay on behalf of those who can't.
Don't take my word for it though, I have on (very rare) occasion been wrong :wink:
The Most Glorious Hack
03-02-2004, 12:08
Wrong Forum. We have a "United Nations" forum for a reason.
... And now here it is.
*Illarian Representative stands*
*ahem* Illaria would like to be the first to state (for this round): no
Illaria will stand by its previous holdings in UN policy beliefs and hold that the UN cannot rule one way or another on an issue as intrinsically cultural as sodomy.
To invade people's private lives and their rights to do what they want with their bodies is not government's duty.
By that same token, though, it is not the UN's duty to tell the nations that they MUST allow sodomy. The triviality of the point is ridiculous. At least with prostitution, there was the economic/career side to things. Here, there is no value to the proposal.
Therefore, Illaria moves that this proposal be ignored and allowed to die on the grounds of it being beyond UN scope.
I have stuck a proposal in, go and read it, then get your delegate to endorse it.
Sodomy is not the cause of evil, and there are many cultures in the world that totally accept it. Banning Sodomy make it illegal and puts people in a position to be arrested and jailed for something sexual.
Very simple law that shall state:
Countries shall repeal their sodomy laws.
No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created.
No Laws limiting the use of condoms shall be created.
The Central Committe of the WL Party (Left Communist Faction) struggles to determine why you thought this was of particular importance. We agree that what people do in the bedroom is none of the state business as long as it is all consesual. Therefore to us, the proposal is uncontroversial, in of itself.
In short, we have no sodomy laws, never have, never will. We concern ourselves with higher affairs.
However, we are becoming increasingly aware that UN may well become a laughing stock should this trend of resolutions concerning the nether regions continue unabated. We also refer the nation to a resolution entitled 'sexual freedom' which was passed approximately a year ago. If the resolution has been overturned then we suggest that our honourable friends write a new one, after wich, maybe we could concern ourselves with resolutions that don't involve gentilalia.
BastardSword
03-02-2004, 14:23
Actually according to thisd you can't make Sodomy legal:
"No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created. "
Well if there are no laws then it can't be made legal
The Most Glorious Hack
03-02-2004, 15:57
Actually according to thisd you can't make Sodomy legal:
"No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created. "
Well if there are no laws then it can't be made legal
Conversely, you couldn't make it illegal either.
*Illarian rep shakes head* silly loopholes
Smaptania
04-02-2004, 07:28
No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created.
How is our Empire supposed to conform to the earlier UN resolution banning pedophilia, if it can't create laws to ban persons from sodomizing minors?
The United Nations has already passed the following resolutions:
Sexual Freedom
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Armstrongonia
Description: What goes on between two (or more) consenting adults in the privacy of their homes should not be the concern of the state unless it is neccesary to enquire about the afore mentioned activities for medical reasons (e.g. if the individuals wish to give blood etc.).
Votes For: 2538
Votes Against: 318
Implemented: Thu Mar 13 2003
Gay Rights
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Kundu
Description: WHEREAS it has been clearly witnessed there is an outspoken minority who wish to oppress gays. We, the People's Republic of Kundu and the other peoples of the world wishing for the preservation of freedom and the respect of all hereby resolve that all member nations of the United Nations must pass laws protecting people from discrimination in all parts of life. We also resolve that gay marriages be protected and endorsed by law in the member nations.
Votes For: 12705
Votes Against: 7734
Implemented: Sat May 3 2003
imported_Final Final Infinity
04-02-2004, 18:01
Gay mariage and sodomy do not go hand in hand:
Sodomy is hetero- or homo- through the butt.
Its not against gay but all those who do so.
Lesbians to my knowledge cannot have sex so ergo they cannot be married. Sorry no consumating is possible, so no marriage takes place.
Only Gay men can be married, since they can have sex...though only through Sodomy I guess...
imported_Efate
04-02-2004, 18:27
I have stuck a proposal in, go and read it, then get your delegate to endorse it.
Sodomy is not the cause of evil, and there are many cultures in the world that totally accept it. Banning Sodomy make it illegal and puts people in a position to be arrested and jailed for something sexual.
Very simple law that shall state:
Countries shall repeal their sodomy laws.
No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created.
No Laws limiting the use of condoms shall be created.
This proposal infringes heavily on the rights of the individual states to manage their own affairs. Although I support the concept, I cannot support yet another intrusive (and to some states, offensive) proposal.
Gay mariage and sodomy do not go hand in hand:
Sodomy is hetero- or homo- through the butt.
Its not against gay but all those who do so.
Lesbians to my knowledge cannot have sex so ergo they cannot be married. Sorry no consumating is possible, so no marriage takes place.
Only Gay men can be married, since they can have sex...though only through Sodomy I guess...
You define sex as having as entering the other participant with your phallus? A bit masculine view on intercourse :D Lesbian couples can surely have sex. Search the internet, you find some details for sure :)
(And you state that 'sodomy' is the anal exploration of the partner, however, that word is actually obsolete in medical literature. It means nowadays only 'sex with animals').
I read that you think that only couples who can have intercourse, should marry. What about people who lost their phallus? May they not marry? Is marriage only about sex?
(And no, I don't think that you marry so you can have kids: you marry because you love eachother.)
Yes but it is legally made that yu must have sex while married at least once or not final.
Divorce court showed this.
Blanket statement. Depends on your country, customs, and laws.
I have stuck a proposal in, go and read it, then get your delegate to endorse it.
Sodomy is not the cause of evil, and there are many cultures in the world that totally accept it. Banning Sodomy make it illegal and puts people in a position to be arrested and jailed for something sexual.
Very simple law that shall state:
Countries shall repeal their sodomy laws.
No Laws concerning Sodomy shall be created.
No Laws limiting the use of condoms shall be created.
To be honest, this is a pretty stupid proposal.
For instance, if a country has a Jewish government and a Jewish-dominated society (just as an example), they may wish to ban the use of condoms as their religion prevents it. Just in the same way some governments bad abortion or organ donation on religious grounds.
Beside that, it's not like sodomy is a major issue. As long as it's commited between two consenting, legal-aged people in the privicy of the bedroom (or other chosen room), who's there to stop them?
Yngwie Malmsteen,
Nibbleton UN Ambassador
Catholic Europe
05-02-2004, 17:19
Catholic Europe does not support this proposal simply because of the fact that we not only lose our right to govern ourselves (through the stopping of law on sodomy) but also the fact that we will be forced to make condoms legal.