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Galdania refuses to allow prostitution within our borders. In Galdania, where no one falls below the poverty line, there is nop justification for prostitution. Therefore, we continue to systematically execute those convicted of Prostitution and, therefore, Capitalism.

In Goobergunchia we are requiring that any prospective prostitute get a signed writ of permission from the President himself.

We are simply refusing to allow it. It is wretched and, in Galdania, unneccesary and unjustafiable.

Galdania refuses to allow prostitution within our borders. In Galdania, where no one falls below the poverty line, there is nop justification for prostitution. Therefore, we continue to systematically execute those convicted of Prostitution and, therefore, Capitalism.

Are you suggesting that you'd do this in violation of the recently passed UN Resolution?

Then just leave the uN.

Therefore, we continue to systematically execute those convicted of Prostitution and, therefore, Capitalism.

Isn't that a bit harsh? Jail or fines, maybe; but execution? Perhaps it's because only 3 executions have happend in Neo Tyr's history, but she highly condemns those acts.

Just leave the UN. People don't get to choose what laws they want to follow, sheesh.

In the Holy Republic of Franciscia, prostitution, pre-marital sex, sodomy, and masturbation will continue to be outlawed. If the UN wants to do anything about it, they can jsut go and pass a resolution to throw a Holy Cow.

May the Sword of Peace burn brightly over the skies of the Axis of Absurdity!

Just leave the UN. People don't get to choose what laws they want to follow, sheesh.

*coughs politely* Brother Theseus, mechanistics aside, please note that these are not questions of what laws people will obey, but what laws nations will obey. The fine distinction is an important one, for it deals with national sovereignty.

We, of the Holy Empire of Kokablel, will fulfill the letter of the resolution as passed, whilst seeking to prepare and have passed a resolution directly removing this and other resolutions invading individual national sovereignty. A reformer must be a proper one and accept that it must work within the system to defeat corruption and invasiveness.

Of course, it should be known that prostitution is now legal in a nation wherein the economy is fully nationalized and managed, with private industry being illegal. As a result of this, they are the employees of a highly religious government that does not approve of them. While civil rights are not defied as per UN regulations, it is not surprising that women have actually not leaped to apply for the post in our nation. It is simply not a desireable job in our nation. It is legal, but completely uncompetitive with 'proper' work of citizens. Others may take their taxes from this detestable practice. We will not.

(As a side note: We're still new, so the affect was actually rather significant to our Civil Freedom marker, moving it from Outlawed to Few. That should alter quickly, however, considering normal processes in this nation. I'm curious why prostitution was considered a 'strong' law. Significant perhaps, but strong? Contentious issue /= strong change in government. *shrugs* realistically, it's a quibbling over minor details.)

Here is a simple solution that lets you ban prostitution while living up to the letter of the law.

AFAIK, There is nothing in there that prevents an age restriction on who can become/use a prostitute. Just set an age requirement of a few millenia. Then prostitution will be banned in your country, you will be upholding the UN resolution, and, most importantly, you can stop whining about it.

Xha'dam thinks prostitution should be legal but we do not think that should be forced on everyone.

In the Holy Republic of Franciscia, prostitution, pre-marital sex, sodomy, and masturbation will continue to be outlawed. If the UN wants to do anything about it, they can jsut go and pass a resolution to throw a Holy Cow.

May the Sword of Peace burn brightly over the skies of the Axis of Absurdity!

That's going way over the top too. Same-sex gender practices need to be respected, and how can you possibly regulate, legalise and enforce a law against masturbation. :? I must side with Neo Tyr on this. :arrow: In addition, Henelobis Socialist Ecologians abject wholesale to the practice of execution, since nothing can justify any one human being taking the life of another.

We of the Grand Atoll will of course comply with the letter of the law. :x

We will exercise our right to tarriffs, and apply what we feel are suitable tarriffs to those trafficking in people for sex.

We will exercise our right to taxation, and levy what we feel are suitable taxes on the abomination some call prostitution.

We will exercise our right to ensure fair labor, and require that every act in the travestry that is prostitution be be monitered for fairness as we choose to define it for that particular act at that particular time.

We will exercise our right to ensure proper training for business, and require that those who abuse the gift of sex through prostitution pass a comprehensive written exam before each such act of prostitution.

We will exercise our right to public accountability for business, and require all who commit the crime against womankind that is prostitution, sadly allowed of the UN, be granted a permit before each comission of prostitution.

We will exercise our right to our own laws; directly or indirectly causing an individual to pollute our territory through prostitution, except as allowed by these guidelines, is our nation's one and only capital crime.

This means whether you are a pimp or a customer or an agent of government, or any other person, if you circumvent our law in order to make a person within our territory provide sex for money, you will be found and killed.

We of the Grand Atoll invite any who wish to engage in prostitution according to these simple guidelines. :x

We of the Grand Atoll wish to inform our sister nations of Jenny's Law, proposed by 16 year old Jenny Deepwater, and passed by our legislature thanks to her efforts and those of her classmates.

We believe that making a person have sex, whether for money or for any reason is rape. Therefore directly or indirectly making a person within our territory have sex for money, except as per the guidelines previously mentioned, will be punished just as all rape is in our territory.

This prevents us from having to implement the death penalty. But if you fear this shall embolden you, do not worry; our scissors are waiting.

The Republic of Ithuania readies its massive military might should Galdania's repeated violations of individual rights continue.

All moral nations have an obligation to ensure that freedom exists for everyone everywhere--the banning of prostitution and, more generally, capitalism is not compatible with this goal and thus must be eliminated.

The Republic of Ithuania readies its massive military might should Galdania's repeated violations of individual rights continue.

All moral nations have an obligation to ensure that freedom exists for everyone everywhere--the banning of prostitution and, more generally, capitalism is not compatible with this goal and thus must be eliminated.

Ahhhh, little brother. Now Capitalism is demanded of your fellow nations? As I look at the process, I see nothing demanding economical homogenity in the available policy types. Do you think you are right to demand we obey your process of supply and demand?

Why is a managed economy unjust?

We believe that the post was meant as an opposition to capitalism.

The Republic of Ithuania readies its massive military might should Galdania's repeated violations of individual rights continue.

All moral nations have an obligation to ensure that freedom exists for everyone everywhere--the banning of prostitution and, more generally, capitalism is not compatible with this goal and thus must be eliminated.

Ahhhh, little brother. Now Capitalism is demanded of your fellow nations? As I look at the process, I see nothing demanding economical homogenity in the available policy types. Do you think you are right to demand we obey your process of supply and demand?

Why is a managed economy unjust?

Because a free economy is an inherent part of a free society, and the only just society is a free society.

There is no justice in government forcing people at gunpoint to follow its dictates of what they will buy, how much of it they will buy, where they will buy it, and when they will buy it. The only alternative to slavery is capitalism, the only moral system.

(He said that the goal is to achieve freedom for all and that the banning of capitalism is incompatible with this goal and must be eliminated. The structure of his statement isn't great, but it is clear.)

(darn, my mind is mush from too much paper writing)

See the Joccian solution - 100% in compliance with International Law and to the letter of previous stoopid resolutions. Joccia has the final solution to the prostitution problem. We have no prostitutes, neither will we have.

We are very concerned. Quote:

"The Republic of Ithuania readies its massive military might should Galdania's repeated violations of individual rights continue.

All moral nations have an obligation to ensure that freedom exists for everyone everywhere--the banning of prostitution and, more generally, capitalism is not compatible with this goal and thus must be eliminated."

Is this a declaration of war? We do not operate a capitalist system within our borders. Should we fear you?

Frank Chalmers
Speaker for International Relations
Community of Ecopoeia

Gigglealia refuses to allow prostitution. Period.

We do however wish to provide as much support as possible for the human slaves trafficed as use as prostitutes in countires wich accept the law.

You are welcome within our country. We offer the utmost support for anyone whos rights have been violated in the name of 'legal' prostituion. We also offer lifetime imprisonment for anyone caught trafficing in humans.

Although a small contribution, as one of the very largest nations in the world, we hope others will follow suit. The UN has no right to allow such a crime to take place, we choose to ignore them.

Anyone who feels the same is welcome to join Moralia- http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/24804/page=display_region

The Republic of Ithuania has positioned its forces. The attack will commence in 72 hours should Galdania not end its egregious violations of individual rights by that time.

The Republic of Ithuania has positioned its forces. The attack will commence in 72 hours should Galdania not end its egregious violations of individual rights by that time.

Let it be known that The Commonwealth of Terra Alliance has banished the UN from its nation and joined the Region of Moralia to protest the UN's fanatical unmoral resolutions, we fully support the nation of Gigglealia in its stand against the tyranny of the so called "United Nations"

William H. Morden
Department of Foreign Affairs
The Commonwealth of TA

I know I am new but surely joining the UN doesn't involve signing all national sovereinty away.

will the UN pass resolutions enforcing capitalism?

or communism for that matter.

we here believe in morals and the selling of the human body is one of most low and degrading thing a person could do i think it is an abomination we are being forced to allow this to infect our societies and slowly disintegrate civilization! you may think im being extremem about the ending of civilization but if the UN will pass something as stupid and horrid as this i don't know what the world is coming to despite the fact that i think that this proposal should never have gotton to the floor i think that it should be left up to each country to decide on if they should have prostitition but as of now we will comply but a prostitute must have a license and to obtain one you have to pay an outrageous exorbitant fee of 50 million dollars and we shall make every attempt to change this proposterous law

Ithuania, do you think perhaps you are going to war (and as such causing the much misery and death) just a little to lightly?

No. The sole purpose of government is to protect the individual rights of its citizens. When it violates those rights instead, then other nations are justified (although not obligated) in doing whatever is necessary to rectify the situation.

and what freedom are you talking about galandia and we have our own decisions that have nothing to do with ithuania and to try to influence how i run my country is wrong and evil and even more stupid to do it in the name of sex and sin! what if i left the UN would you still try to imprint your polocies on me would you! have you ever slept with a prostitute? well i doubt you will say yes because if you have you are most likely ashamed of it and that makes even less sense

and what freedom are you talking about galandia and we have our own decisions that have nothing to do with ithuania and to try to influence how i run my country is wrong and evil and even more stupid to do it in the name of sex and sin! what if i left the UN would you still try to imprint your polocies on me would you! have you ever slept with a prostitute? well i doubt you will say yes because if you have you are most likely ashamed of it and that makes even less sense

No. The sole purpose of government is to protect the individual rights of its citizens. When it violates those rights instead, then other nations are justified (although not obligated) in doing whatever is necessary to rectify the situation.

Even if it means violating multiple UN laws, Ithunania?

The UN is corrupt. I can't understand why you are willing to sacrifice human lives to enforce one of its most idiotic laws.

As there is no available method to repeal undesirable legislation from the UN. We, the government of Cancadia have proposed a regulatory amendment to protect the individual rights and safety of sex trade workers. We believe it is a step in the right direction to at least protect the health and safety of the men and women who choose this perticular career until such time as the UN allows all member nations to make sovern decisions on such a morally questionable subject.

Laws have been passed by the U.N. compliance ministry within the Rogue Nation of Greenspoint to allow prostitutes to legally ply their trade. Our Dept. of Justice has passed laws making it illegal for anyone to utilize the services of a prostitute without first passing numerous physical examinations to prove they are free of any STD's, plus a psychological examination to show the prospective client is mentally stable and in a loving, married relationship, and has the permission of their spouse and local congregational spiritual leader to utilize said service, along with a written report from a state certified family counselor that said activity will not harm the marriage. Then and only then may they purchase a permit to utilize the services, for a hefty fee. In the 2-year's gross salary range.

Laws are but tools of government. It's all in how you apply them.

James Moehlman
Asst. Manager ico U.N. Affairs

No. The sole purpose of government is to protect the individual rights of its citizens. When it violates those rights instead, then other nations are justified (although not obligated) in doing whatever is necessary to rectify the situation.

Big brother, you are a rabid dog. You flaunt the UN practices and defy them. Standard practice is sanction and removal from this august body, not war. We, while incapable of harming your nation in any fashion due to lack of military force sufficient for the task, pray that your government is put down like the rabid beasts they are.

You overstep yourself big brother.

The peopl of the 128 of Lo-ol have elected to resign from the UN rather than allow this resolution to pass into law. The community of the United Nations has no meaning if member nations are forced to resort to sophistry to get around unjust rulings.

The UN is corrupt.

Although this *opinion* of the UN is probably held by other nations, perhaps the delegate from the Blackguard would be so kind as to cite some specific charges of UN corruption. One example would be enough.

If Ithuania attacks Galdania, they will be violating U.N. law themselves.

We may consider Ithuania's stance if they manage to get U.N. resolution for intervention.

If Ithuania attacks, we can make their people suffer the fate of Genetic Mutations, Prostitutes, and all other Vjiljairzkviken (a term for 'the unfit' or 'unworthy')

The Republic of Ithuania is not concerned about the UN--the UN has no authority to prevent member nations from acting to rectify gross violations of individual rights.

Touch Galdania and you will burn.

You have under 48 hours to reconsider your decision.

You have under 48 hours to reconsider your decision.

The lives of every Ithuanian for a few sub-human whores? I shudder to think who runs your government.

The People's Republic of Babaladobia feels that there is nothing wrong with prostitution. therefore we concur with the UNs decision (and subsequently voted in favor of the recent legislation).

Good day, to you all

The Republic of Ithuania is not concerned about the UN--the UN has no authority to prevent member nations from acting to rectify gross violations of individual rights.

And individual member nations are capable of responding in kind to put down rabid dogs who seek to assault individual nations, taking the law of the UN into their own hands against standard policies.

We of the Holy Empire of Kokablel are in compliance with these rules and yet we see no reason to go to the lengths of war when other methods exist first and foremost, especially in such a hotly debated issue when the UN permits no repeal. Nevermind the fact that we stood and still stand in opposition to the resolution, passed and implemented or not.

Continue your countdown if you will. We stand in ardent opposition to your hypocritical warmongering.

The Republic of Ithuania is not "taking the law of the UN into its own hands". It is merely rectifying a flagrant violation of individual rights currently occurring in Geldania. There is nothing hypocritical about that.

UN policies for non-compliance are warning, sanction and expulsion. War is not listed. As so many people repeat to our blessed nation, the United Nations does not go to war. You are taking UN judgements and striking out militarily from them.

If you are going further and declaring war on all states who hold to managed economies or do not legalize prostitution, big brother, you have overstepped yourself. You will find that one day you will run out of troops and the world will not be saved as you think it will be. You will find that your nation is crumbling under its own massive bulk and your anarchistic children, glutted on their pleasures, will rip you to shreds in the blood of your own iniquities.

You wield the sword to take from those granted it and declare your grotesque freedoms must be defended from other nations at the point of a blade. Whatever your prattle of 'rights relinquished in subjugating others' or whatever you said, you are still overstepping your bounds and rights as a sovereign nation in declaring what is and is not permissable worldwide. That is why we call you a hypocrite. You take from others and place under your rule their nations, claiming some sovereign right.

We do no such thing. Unusual, that. Are we not the religious zealots? Odd that.

The Republic of Ithuania would like to see these alleged policies. At any rate, the Republic of Ithuania is not constrained by policies of the UN, only by its duty to ensure that individual rights are respected worldwide.

If a nation cannot accept a certain resolution, then perhaps the UN is not for that particular nation.

Remember, UN membership is only voluntary.

You have the option of opting-out.

Do not bombard those who suggest resolutions.

It only displays a lack of intelligence.

~signed~

Kepone Public Relations Minister

The Republic of Ithuania is not "taking the law of the UN into its own hands". It is merely rectifying a flagrant violation of individual rights currently occurring in Geldania. There is nothing hypocritical about that.

Transcript of the 186th Meeting Of Soviet Delegates, Rosa Luxemburg House, Cromwell City:



>G.P. Punkachu [chair] The chair recognises comrade Kollantai

>Cde Kollantai, [delegate for international affairs]:Comrades, an unsual situation has occurred regarding the state of Ithuania. It seems to believe that its own principles, such as they are, cut across the desisions made by indivudals sovereign states. In short, Ithuania seems to have set itself up as the UN's policemen.

[delegates start to speak at once]

>G.P. Punkachu: Comrades, order please, everyone has a chance to speak but speaking all at once rather defeats the point of speaking.

>James May [teaching trade union delegate] Comarde chair!

>G.P. Punkachu: the chair recognises comrade May

>cde May: As amused as we are by a nation that has holds non initiation of force as a principle and in any case is acting without democratic mandate, we should also be extremely alarmed! The state of Ithuania seems to have delusions that it is some sort of consumer watchdog! Will it decide one day that the desisons that we as delegates make should be overidden not by those who elected us but by an unaccountable body some thousands of miles away?

>G.P. Punkachu: yes comrade but I am given to understand that Geldania is proposing to execute sex workers. This hardly a case of a progressive nation versus a reactionary one. One would have trouble indeed diserning a...'lesser evil', as it were. In any case, non iniation of force is a principle which I darsesay has been broken by Galdenia first in any case by not accepting the UN law-- which is how I imagine Ithuania would see it. I propose that for now, despite our misgivings, we allow these countries to settle their differences without our interference. May we point to the vote?

[assension from the floor]

Final vote: In favour of defending Gladenia: 37%

In favour of non intervention: 40%

Abstenions: 23%

Gigglealia supports Galdania and not only because the names both start with G.

With one of the worlds largest populations and compulsory military service, Gigglealia is an entity of which to take notice.

Esteemed Galdania, The Kingdom of Joccia makes the offer to you, in this instance only, send your prostitutes to us and we will gladly liquidate them.

We will do this under International Law as proscribed in the Legalisation of Euthanasia proposal so recently passed. The costs involved will be negligable but will be borne by your government.

We make this offer to you out of concern for the mealy-mouthed critisisms you are having to endure from the "do-gooder nations"

Mon droit

King Mac III of Joccia

Galdania's actions may not be in any way shape or form righteous, but Illaria will not stand for an unsanctioned attack on a UN nation, PARTICULARLY from another UN nation. Attacking a UN nation without the sanction of the UN is gernerally a cause for problems. As the UN is a peacekeeping body, Illaria asks Ithuania to better present its case, and in a calm, rational forum, not an emotional, accusatory one. At this rate, we'll have a minor world war over an issue that can be resolved.

Illaria does not support the immoral actions and words of Galdania OR the hasty war resolution of Ithuania.

Gladly.

Peace is a rational means to resolve conflict; violence is an irrational means. Galdania's government, by forcefully abrogating the individual rights of its citizens, has shown itself to thus be irrational. Being irrational, Galdania's government cannot be reasoned with--it is immune to reason. Therefore, the only rational means to deal with this situation is to deal with Galdania on terms it understands--that is, irrational terms.

The Republic of Ithuania's position is just. Doing what is right is more important than doing what is popular; therefore, the Republic of Ithuania does not care about a UN sanction for its actions.

Right in your own mind is not right by world standard.

History is littered with leaders who did what was right by them alone.

If world standard is in opposition to moral imperatives, then world standard is unimportant.

Moral imperatives held by a single person(nation) are important only insofar as they concern only that one person(nation). If they concern others, then they are important only in consideration of all others involved as well.

A message is scrawled on a piece of paper, wrapped around a brick, and hurled in Galdania's direction. It reads:


You call people like us sub human whores again, and we'll have a Borstal Breakout on your face.

Union Of Free Sex Workers (Afiliated to Albion Trades' Union Congress)

The argument put forth by the government of Illaria rests on the false premise that morality is relative.

The correctness of Ithuania's argument can only be substantiated by themselves then, as only they can claim to know absolute morality.

The correctness of Ithuania's argument can only be substantiated by themselves then, as only they can claim to know absolute morality.
ahh yes, Ithuania's assumption that they know best...it must be so liberating for them to know that they don't need to listen to any other nation states because clearly they are always right.... :roll:
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Can anyone say President Bush ( :lol: )
Did you know he has found out Iraq had NO WMD, instead the intelligence was all hearsay, guesses, and past knowledge not up to date.

Will we find that after you invade Galdania, that Galdania was just boasting and has not executed anyone.
Then will you execute yourself for needless Bloodshed Illaria?
Or stand the world court since you will be guilty of genecide?

First off, Illaria is not the warrior involved here, for the record. Ithuania is.

Galdania *did* execute those people, however...

Sorry, I misworded that I guess.
But how can you provbe he did indeed execute anyone?
His words? If he is the enemy do you think he is gonna be a nice guy and be truthful?
Puh-leeze

Illaria does not hold Galdania to be the enemy.

It seems, brother Radio, that brother Galdania publicly states their actions, possibly in the form of public executions.

We have already stated our positions. We have our own viewpoint on what 'absolute morality' is in this case and find Ithuania to be not only incredibly presumptuous but morally reprehensible to boot. We simply found methods within international law to accomplish the desired goal, rather than execution.

Only 327 Prostitutes were executed in all of Galdania last year. Every year since 1936, prostitutes have been among those targeted by the government for elimination.

Only 327 Prostitutes were executed in all of Galdania last year. Every year since 1936, prostitutes have been among those targeted by the government for elimination.

The government of Galdania is warned that it has less than twenty-four hours to change its evil ways or face the logical consequences of its actions.

OOC: You got to change your evil ways, baby, before I go find someone new. You got to change...

attacking galdania is a measure in stupidity i admit that killing prostitutes seems harsh but it is their polocy and their laws and if you don't like them ithuania than too bad your allies are few and personally i don't want to go to war but i sympathize with galdania you should just mind your owm business and stop trying to be all gestapo and make surte that everyone follows what you want or you will kill them because that is EXACTLY what you are doing

attacking galdania is a measure in stupidity i admit that killing prostitutes seems harsh but it is their polocy and their laws and if you don't like them ithuania than too bad your allies are few and personally i don't want to go to war but i sympathize with galdania you should just mind your owm business and stop trying to be all gestapo and make surte that everyone follows what you want or you will kill them because that is EXACTLY what you are doing
We're thinking of declaring war on nations that can't punctuate, create sentences, or use Capital Letters. Frisbeeterians are just funny that way.

Galdania is on full alert.

We demand that Ithuania stand down NOW.

If Ithuania makes any offensive movements, we will strike back at her with all our might.

X-9 gas can kill a grown man in seven seconds if he inhales it OR touches the gas. It also has minor corrosive capabilities. Stand down now.

whew, gas weaponry... well arent we civil?

The Theocracy of Eusebius, with the backing of the One World Nation, headed by the Confederacy of Caligatio, readies its war machine against the nation of Ithuania, should it attack the nation of Galdania.

On another note, Eusebius suggests to the nation of Galdania the use of the ever-effective I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons against the Ithuanian threat.

actually you know an effective way to get around the prostitute law is just set up the licensing system like this: Its illegal to be a prostitute without a license but to get a license you have to be in business for say 6 months. So therefore anyone applying for the license is immediately breaking the law.

The Socialist Comrades, though not yet a UN member, is nonetheless appalled at this lack of restraint against Ithuania and will assist its newfound brother nation of Eusebius in defending Galdania.

The Confederacy of Caligatio, which voted against the Legalize Prostitution bill, fully supports the nations within its region who have expressed their concern over the aggression shown by Ithuania towards Galdania.

Surely, the nation of Ithuania does not wish to risk war with Galdania, Eusebius, the Socialist Comrades, and Caligatio.

Should Ithuania attack Galdania, the most effective weapon at the disposal of Galdania, as Eusebius mentioned, would be the I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons. Should these not be used and no other solution made available, Caligatio will be forced to declare war on Ithuania.

Todd M.
President of the Confederacy of Caligatio

The Republic of Ithuania does not consider the miniscule nations of Eusebius and Caligatio to be a significant threat. The Socialist Comrades is more worrisome; however, it can be dealt with.

The Commonwealth of TA has decided that it will stand with Galdania and all other nations who wish to protect their sovereignty against those who would seek to violate it. We believe that no nation has the right to interfere in the internal policies of another, which is what exactly what Ithuania is doing.

We advise the nation of Ithuania to back down from its blatantly hostile stance, before conflict becomes inevitable.

William H. Morden
Department of Foreign Affairs
The Commonwealth of Terra Alliance

The Republic of Ithuania does not recognize the legitimacy of a government, such as that of Galdania, that refuses to recognize the individual rights of its citizens; therefore, the prohibitions against interfering with the internal affairs of a nation no longer apply.

The coalition of nations, whose population numbers 2.838 billion people, grows rapidly. The combined armies of these 5 nations -- Galdania, the Socialist Comrades, Caligatio, Eusebius, and Terra Alliance -- are enough to crush the Ithuanian threat. Surely this fact is evident.

Caligatio still suggests the use of I.G.N.O.R.E. cannons.

Hopefully, diplomacy will not fail here, though Caligatio fully supports Galdania's right to exercise its sovereignty concerning this issue.

Todd M.
President of the Confederacy of Caligatio

you might be against prostitutes, but killing them for being one? that 's just to much


I support Ithuania on this

Galdania's sovereignty and nonexistent, for its government ceased to be legitimate the day it began violating the rights of its citizens.

The Republic of Ithuania formally thanks The Atheists Reality for its support in this matter.

It is more a question of regulation that anything else quite frankly. Prostitution must be regulated in such ways that it doesn't operate underground or through illegal networking systems run by criminals. we should not allow people to be forced into prostitution, it must be a conscious and personal choice. Allowing and regulating prostitution is a dirty job, but somebody has got to do it, better me than a criminal without an ounce of moral scrupules.

Despite Eredron's longstanding enmity with Galdania, we feel that provoking a war over this matter is a premature move; in this conflict, Eredron wishes to proclaim it's neutrality.

OOC: Has anyone ever created a UN resolution to bring military action against another? Sounds like a very interesting idea.

We are in support of the Ithuanian position of UN resolution enforcement. However, at this time we will remain cautiously neutral. We would note our approval of Belem's position and formally request that Galdania set up a system like Goobergunchia's, in which all licenses for prostitution must be personally signed by the President, UN Ambassador, and Gunchenjuris Chancellor.

Lord Evif, Goobergunchian UN Ambassador
Founder of the DU Region
Retired UN Delegate

[ooc: Eredron, that wouldn't be in order.]

Despite Eredron's longstanding enmity with Galdania, we feel that provoking a war over this matter is a premature move; in this conflict, Eredron wishes to proclaim it's neutrality.

OOC: Has anyone ever created a UN resolution to bring military action against another? Sounds like a very interesting idea.

(still ooc) That's actually a pretty good idea - and well within the right of the UN - but the warmongers of NS would probably try to shoot it down. And if they're the same adolescent boys who voted in the "legalize prostitution" horror, then the proposal would probably be doomed.

Despite Eredron's longstanding enmity with Galdania, we feel that provoking a war over this matter is a premature move; in this conflict, Eredron wishes to proclaim it's neutrality.

OOC: Has anyone ever created a UN resolution to bring military action against another? Sounds like a very interesting idea.

(still ooc) That's actually a pretty good idea - and well within the right of the UN - but the warmongers of NS would probably try to shoot it down. And if they're the same adolescent boys who voted in the "legalize prostitution" horror, then the proposal would probably be doomed.

(also ooc)
What's so horrible about legalizing prostitution? It's a matter of individual rights. I'm sick and tired of y'all assuming it's a hormone kick.

I say that we can still get rid of Prostitution in the UN. someone recently submited a proposal to Illegalize prostitution and I hope that this proposal will gain enough support, if not I hope we submit it again till it passes. I hope that people will not resign but try to fight this, if all we do is resign than the perverts will get an even stronger hold and the corruption will spread even more. I just submited a topic and about this and I hope you will take the time to look at it. Thanks

Dryd would be neutral in a war but will attack if provoked but we will do everything short of warfare for galdania and her allies. Dryd does not think that war is the answer to this debate and that the UN is not corrupt just filled with many corrupt countrys. i do think that we should follow the rule but fight to have it changed in the UN not on the battlefield
when we all joined the UN we all baswically agreed to follow its laws regardless of what we felt and if we disagreed we had the option to leave
so if you are willing to win by a certain set of rules you must also be prepared to lose by them but im not saying that galdania is wrong but im saying that many countries are guilty of this including ithuania who many times will disobey UN laws and is now threatening to fight to protect them

and about human rights, there is no reason that allowing a human to sell themselves to make money i is wrong and it only hurts a country.
I think that if all of us worked to make it unneccesary for people to seek to live this way by making life easier for the low class and to provide financial aide to those in need this would also increase the happiness and the prosperity in a nation and i think that this is a worthwhile investment((i would punctuate but since the forums are rarly up for long that i dont have time to put it in so sorry its not to piss any of you off))

Dryd would be neutral in a war but will attack if provoked but we will do everything short of warfare for galdania and her allies. Dryd does not think that war is the answer to this debate and that the UN is not corrupt just filled with many corrupt countrys. i do think that we should follow the rule but fight to have it changed in the UN not on the battlefield
when we all joined the UN we all baswically agreed to follow its laws regardless of what we felt and if we disagreed we had the option to leave
so if you are willing to win by a certain set of rules you must also be prepared to lose by them but im not saying that galdania is wrong but im saying that many countries are guilty of this including ithuania who many times will disobey UN laws and is now threatening to fight to protect them

and about human rights, there is no reason that allowing a human to sell themselves to make money i is wrong and it only hurts a country.
I think that if all of us worked to make it unneccesary for people to seek to live this way by making life easier for the low class and to provide financial aide to those in need this would also increase the happiness and the prosperity in a nation and i think that this is a worthwhile investment((i would punctuate but since the forums are rarly up for long that i dont have time to put it in so sorry its not to piss any of you off))

The Kingdom of Joccia supports Galdania in this issue.

The Great Hearted Giant, Galdania, seeks only to protect it's comrades from a pestilence.

We have so far inhumed more than ten times the numbers of these poor deluded exploitees that Galdania has.

Long Live Galdania

Despite Eredron's longstanding enmity with Galdania, we feel that provoking a war over this matter is a premature move; in this conflict, Eredron wishes to proclaim it's neutrality.

OOC: Has anyone ever created a UN resolution to bring military action against another? Sounds like a very interesting idea.

(still ooc) That's actually a pretty good idea - and well within the right of the UN - but the warmongers of NS would probably try to shoot it down. And if they're the same adolescent boys who voted in the "legalize prostitution" horror, then the proposal would probably be doomed.

(also ooc)
What's so horrible about legalizing prostitution? It's a matter of individual rights. I'm sick and tired of y'all assuming it's a hormone kick.

(IC)

We of the Grand Atoll will speak no more about the resolution to legalize prostitution. The reasoned arguments of such states as Gigglealia have already been voiced, are already sufficient. We will speak again of this subject when there is a resolution to reverse this travesty.

Galdania has total welfare for all it's citizen; ther is no need for prostitution in Galdania, as all people are given enough to live by the government.

If Ithuania stands against Galdania, they stand against democracy. The People of Galdania are not oppressed by these laws; they are protected. The government exists only to serve the People; if we let these abominations live, we will be betraying the Galdanian people, and the very foundations of democracy.

Prostitution is legal, live with it. 8)

We would like to thank those who have stood in the way of Imperialist, Dictatorship Ithuania.

Though the Holy Empire of Kokablel has not been directly threatened, the press release today that it is in a state of high alert, with its surprisingly impressive array of military equipment primed to punish any insurgents. An overly glutted military budget has produced rather surprising levels of armaments and the island seems to have locked itself down in terms of security.

When asked why, the Grand Vizier Ezeqeel made a rare public appearance to answer the matter personally,

"We, of the Holy Empire of Kokablel, feel that the recent actions of Ithuania set a dangerous precedent. While we follow the letter of international law, it is a well known fact that we retain opposition to it and that there is a reason that we have few if any filthy whores within our borders. Our strong stances and obviously deplored economic structure have been targetted tangentally by the massive state of Ithuania in its commentary against managed economies. Acknowledging these policies, we fear that it is only a matter of time before their weapons will be trained unjustly upon our erstwhile peaceful nation."

"We are saddened that we have not enough military might to yet offer more than mediocre financial support to the Galdanians, along with our ardent prayers. However, we will not take any threat to our sovereignty lightly and staunchly stand humbly in the all-pervading, ever-present, glorius and sanctified Holy Light of the heavenly, ever-shining star Kokablel, may it shine brightly forever in the heavens over the heathen and degraded lands of this world, granting them true understanding."

"We remain ever-vigilant."

Dryd has made it next to impossible to prostitute in our lands and is working on improving the government and the lives of its people so that noone seeks this way of life. To show our support we have sent several tons of twinkies to the troops of Galdania to make them more comfortable on the battle field if it comes to war.

~twinkies sent~

We would like to once more thank all the nations who have supported us. Special thanks to Dryd for their twinkies, as in Galdania, 'snack food' is rather hard to come by, mostly due to international sanctions. However, this lack of fatty foods leaves our people in better physical condition than Western nations. Though we do thank Dryd for this rare treat.

your welcome Galdania, and if you do go to war we will send more food but not neccesarily all twinkies and we will also send medical supplies if it is needed this is done because we feel that ithuania is wrong in its accusation annd actions

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=121820&highlight=

The most unjust attack in history.

We are lodging formal protests within the United Nations bureau of inquiry, citing gross violation of member privileges by the nation of Ithuania and are in public outrage over the incident.

(Yes, I know this means precisely jack shit. It's just funny to say.)

We are lodging formal protests within the United Nations bureau of inquiry, citing gross violation of member privileges by the nation of Ithuania and are in public outrage over the incident.

(Yes, I know this means precisely jack shit. It's just funny to say.)

OOC: It ads to the RP feeling. BTW, we could be good allies if you raised your civil freedoms a little.

We are lodging formal protests within the United Nations bureau of inquiry, citing gross violation of member privileges by the nation of Ithuania and are in public outrage over the incident.

(Yes, I know this means precisely jack shit. It's just funny to say.)

OOC: It ads to the RP feeling. BTW, we could be good allies if you raised your civil freedoms a little.

(*chuckles* this group? Civil freedoms? Heh, unlikely. At best you will likely consider them military allies because they oppose who you oppose.

They're an incredibly heirarchical and rigid society. It's very safe there, but in an eery sort of way. There are certain things that they consider fully free based upon their religion, but no more. As such, ours will likely always be a managed economy and a highly structured society.)