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I know I'm gonna catch some flak for this, but it's high time we repealed environmental restrictions on business. Now, a ton of you are going to say that by doing this, we're going to end up destroying the world, but that simply isn't true. Look at the facts: just about every stride made towards environmentally safe business practices have come without environmental regulations spurring them on. Hydrogen powered cars, the use of natural gas as an energy source, and the replanting of trees by paper and lumber companies have not occured due to laws, but because of practicality and efficiency. In addition, whenever a law has been passed to protect the environment, businesses have found ways to move around them.

Because of this, I have created a proposal titled "Raze the Rainforests". It allows for the repealment of all environmental protection laws, instead allowing business to create safer processes on its own as they become more practical, at a rate faster than most laws would be able to create. Also, it would free up time for government's to focus on other pressing matters, such as peace and social progression.

Don't feed the capitalist machine!

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this will not help the enviroment at all. hydrogen cars are actually enviromentally friendly. and this would not help the government either. and by tarring down the rain forests you are cutting away(no pun intended) more than 50% of the world oxyger supply. i vote no on this proposal.

Because of this, I have created a proposal titled "Raze the Rainforests". It allows for the repealment of all environmental protection laws, instead allowing business to create safer processes on its own as they become more practical, at a rate faster than most laws would be able to create. Also, it would free up time for government's to focus on other pressing matters, such as peace and social progression.
If I understand this, it allows us to repeal the laws that our individual nations put in place. Unless I am missing something here, can't we do that already?

If this travesty were ever to pass, my country is straight out of the UN.

I agree with this proposal. For any country to survive it is important that business comes first. Removal of the majority of the rain forests would bring massive opportunities for business and thus more wealth would be created. Even the lazy beggers scum in my own country could get of their lazy arse and get a job. I would vote for this proposal.

If I understand this, it allows us to repeal the laws that our individual nations put in place. Unless I am missing something here, can't we do that already?

Ok... let me clarify... the resolution would repeal all environmental protection laws.

And here I thought it was only the hippies who didn't understand what the UN should and shouldn't do...

We of the Grand Atoll are grateful for your proposal, O Mormon Hostile 6. Occasionally we come to question our socialist perspective, our longstanding and deeply engrained distrust of the capitalist machine.

Horrors such as you propose are an important and graphic reminder of why it is so important to oppose you and other selfish, destructive capitalist nations. For this reminder we deeply thank you.

We of the Grand Atoll would leave the UN before we would be forced to participate in the rape of Mother Earth that this proposal would bring about.

Never!!
The enviroment is one of Altariland's pride, and we will keep it that way!!

We condemn your capitalist proposal.

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how fucking stupid are you?

how f--- stupid are you?


:shock: :o Calm down, i am all for helping my economy but this seems a tad extreme, even for me with a frightening economy, 8) anyway it is pretty much covered in an issue, :wink:

You would seek to repeal protection our precious rain forests, in effect condemning them, and *hope* that capitalistic companies would actually try to preserve them when it's not in their best interests? You *hope* that these companies would hire more people in return for these repealments?

How can you propose such a thing?

It goes without saying that we oppose this proposal absolutely. Though there's a future in comedy for you.

Ann Clayborne
Speaker for the Environment
Community of Ecopoeia

Just leave the UN were it should be: international affairs!
The UN have no right to enact nations' environmental rules!

I have to take issue with Feliz's posting - the environment IS an international affair as it transcends national boundaries.

Regarding the proposal, I again find myself taking issue with the assumption that a nation's well-being is dependent on the strength of its economy. At any rate, the assumption that businesses can be trusted to act in a responsible manner is hopelessly idealistic.

Ann Clayborne
Speaker for the Environment

Here is Voof-land we have very few environmental rpotection laws. We may repeal them all soon. however, we don't need the UN to do it for us!

This organization just can't help inteferring in private affairs of national sovreignty, can it?

I condemn this proposal as an unwarranted intrusion into the internal affairs of the member nations of the UN.

Voof-land has spoken.

this is the best idea i have heard in a very long time. mindless greenie wankers inhibit economic growth and if all they had their ways we would all b livin in trees

Oh, I see...you're an idiot. Apologies, I read your post anticipating something intelligent. My mistake.

To those who believe capitalism is the way to save the future, I believe all of us are sorely mistaken. Those few feeble examples of where companies have actually done something good for the environment were done for gain rather then altruistic purposes. Hydrogen car development has been fueled by large governmental subsidies to develop the technology and to comply with high air pollution standards (again done by the government). Timber industries that have replanted trees have done it so that they can prevent erosion of the soil and so that they can get another crop of trees in another 20 years! The bottom line of every industry is to make a profit. To rape the land and not clean up the mess is the cheapest option - only government can step in to protect the people most affected by this pollution. In effect government is put into place to save people from themselves. This earth is all we have. We need to support all environmental measures because we can't survive in a dirty planet. Everyone should be equally responsible for their part in the overall impact. My nation of Horsible has a large proportion of rainforest and as a result the people are healthy, there is no crime, and we have a sustainable economy. That's what the UN should try to re-create in the entire planet.

To those who believe capitalism is the way to save the future, I believe all of us are sorely mistaken. Those few feeble examples of where companies have actually done something good for the environment were done for gain rather then altruistic purposes. Hydrogen car development has been fueled by large governmental subsidies to develop the technology and to comply with high air pollution standards (again done by the government). Timber industries that have replanted trees have done it so that they can prevent erosion of the soil and so that they can get another crop of trees in another 20 years! The bottom line of every industry is to make a profit. To rape the land and not clean up the mess is the cheapest option - only government can step in to protect the people most affected by this pollution. In effect government is put into place to save people from themselves. This earth is all we have. We need to support all environmental measures because we can't survive in a dirty planet. Everyone should be equally responsible for their part in the overall impact. My nation of Horsible has a large proportion of rainforest and as a result the people are healthy, there is no crime, and we have a sustainable economy. That's what the UN should try to re-create in the entire planet.



This isn't really a U.N issue more of a home thing, :)

It was my impression that the origional author was concerned with all of the UN resolutions that were attmpting to make environmental issues an international vs. a national initiative. But my argument, which you failed to miss, is that all of us are at stake when it comes to the environment which means that all of us should participate.