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I ask all members of the UN that oppose Prostitution to endorse my proposal on a Global Ban on Prostitution.Seeing that the current Prostitution resolution is likely to pass it is imperitive that we fight back to end this nonsense.Does anyone really want to see their Son's and Daughter's,Mother's and Father's,Husband's and Wive's exposed to this outrage.The Armed Republic of Struckman will fight this issue as long as it takes,but we can't do it alone.


After reviewing Struckman's above proposal we have decided to make a proposal to Ban UN Prostitution Resolution (page 20 UN listing proposals)
Instead of a comlete ban for all member nations this proposal will let individual Members make up their own mind on the matter.

This issue was the last straw for my nation, prostitution is demeaning and destructive to the women and men involved in it, to say nothing of the religious ramifacations.

Alar will having nothing to do with any organization that supports such a severe breach of Human Rights, this 'resolution' should never have been brought to a vote, many of the member states are far to immature to understand the damage this practise does to the participents.

Dude.

You're an idiot.

If you were concerned about individual rights, you'd realize there's no valid reason for government to restrict the activities in which people voluntarily engage or what they do with their bodies.

'Dude', your immature.

When you get a little older, you will begin to understand that everything for everybody doesn't work for a reason, and that rules and behavioral paterns exist for a reason.

You should also work on your people skills, calling me an idiot is hardly constructive, it's simply a prelude to an argument.

Dude.

You're an idiot.

If you were concerned about individual rights, you'd realize there's no valid reason for government to restrict the activities in which people voluntarily engage or what they do with their bodies.

The Armed Republic of Struckman laughs at the ignorant thinking of Ithuania.Perhaps your government also thinks that there is no valid reason to restrict racism since it's an activity that ignorant people voluntarily engage in?

Yes, of course.

Heaven forbid freedom might have undesirable results...

Results are not important. What's important is that the system is morally proper--and no morally proper system dictates the voluntary activities people engage in.

The Kingdom of Quatre-Nations approve totally the work or our friendly neighbor of Struckman.

Yes, of course.

Heaven forbid freedom might have undesirable results...

Results are not important. What's important is that the system is morally proper--and no morally proper system dictates the voluntary activities people engage in.

Okay...

So what your saying is voluntary acts such as Rape,Murder,Stealing,Cheating,Adultery,Prositution,Racism and Arson are morally proper?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The problem with most of those acts is that they're not voluntary. If a party to an action does not consent to that action, force is evidently being applied, and that's usually wrong.

The problem with most of those acts is that they're not voluntary. If a party to an action does not consent to that action, force is evidently being applied, and that's usually wrong.

They are voluntary for the people commiting them.

That's irrelevant, idiot. They're not voluntary for all parties involved.

Struckman, that's exactly why prostitution cannot be compared to "Rape,Murder,Stealing,Cheating,Adultery,Prositution,Racism and Arson". Prostitution is voluntary for both parties, while your list is voluntary for one.

Though I do not condone the practice, people have the right to choose their own paths. However, Ramadoon has many social policies which prevent prostitution from being prominent in the first place--the down and out who would usually turn to prostitution as a way to make ends meet are turning to the government instead, which helps them find a job suitable to their abilities. Perhaps the question is not whether prostitution should be legal or not. The question here is, "Are you doing enough to help stop it from happening in the first place?" If not completely stop, at least curb the effects.

Anyway that's my two cents on this matter.

Ramadoon: No. That's not government's job.

Government's sole purpose is the protection of individual rights.

That's irrelevant, idiot. They're not voluntary for all parties involved.

But according to your arguement it's all morally proper,Idiot.Alot of those things are common with prostitution.Lets put it this way moron,let's say a whore has Aids,she knows it but does'nt stop.A number of men sleep with her and get infected,is that not murder?Rape is a daily thing for a whore.Stealing anything from drugs to money is common.Married people having sex with hookers is Adultery.They cheat themselves out of having a normal,healthy life that is why suicide is very high among hookers.I have heard of hookers being gang raped because of the color of their skin.I have also heard of case's that involved Arson because of reason's above.

Just go ahead and keep calling people idiots because your to ignorant to understand this.

This is not a matter within the judicial oversight of the august United Nations. It is a matter for member states to decide within their own boundaries and should not be voted upon, much less implemented. May it be stricken from the record and placed to the side. The Holy Light will speak to people's consciences on its own and they will learn, but there is no reason to place to sword of the law at the throats of nationally sovereign states.

Ithuania, yours is not an opinion universally or even widely held. The protection and guidance of the citizenry are equally strong motivations, lest you forget these.

This issue was the last straw for my nation, prostitution is demeaning and destructive to the women and men involved in it, to say nothing of the religious ramifacations.

Alar will having nothing to do with any organization that supports such a severe breach of Human Rights, this 'resolution' should never have been brought to a vote, many of the member states are far to immature to understand the damage this practise does to the participents.

Metallized thoroughly protects the firat part of what Alar said. But it must be put on vote. Every issue deserves that. Democracy is the voice of the people, in this case, the nations. It will be decided what must be done, right or wrong.
But The Armed Republic Of Metallized strongly supports Struckman..

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This is not a matter within the judicial oversight of the august United Nations. It is a matter for member states to decide within their own boundaries and should not be voted upon, much less implemented. May it be stricken from the record and placed to the side. The Holy Light will speak to people's consciences on its own and they will learn, but there is no reason to place to sword of the law at the throats of nationally sovereign states.

Ithuania, yours is not an opinion universally or even widely held. The protection and guidance of the citizenry are equally strong motivations, lest you forget these.

I have decided to drop the Global Ban proposal in favor of one that lets individual Members decide what is right and what is wrong(See my 1st post).

This is not a matter within the judicial oversight of the august United Nations. It is a matter for member states to decide within their own boundaries and should not be voted upon, much less implemented. May it be stricken from the record and placed to the side. The Holy Light will speak to people's consciences on its own and they will learn, but there is no reason to place to sword of the law at the throats of nationally sovereign states.

Ithuania, yours is not an opinion universally or even widely held. The protection and guidance of the citizenry are equally strong motivations, lest you forget these.

I have decided to drop the Global Ban proposal in favor of one that lets individual Members decide what is right and what is wrong(See my 1st post).

A wise choice, save one element: Why present the bill at all, unless the current proposal passes. If it does, the bill is wise, if not it is unecessary.

A wise choice, save one element: Why present the bill at all, unless the current proposal passes. If it does, the bill is wise, if not it is unecessary.

Well the explaination is simple:as of right now it looks like it will pass,better to build support for a counter proposal now rather than latter.If it turns out that people come to their sense's and vote against legal prostitution than I will not push it any further.

That's irrelevant, idiot. They're not voluntary for all parties involved.

But according to your arguement it's all morally proper,
Way to not read, dumbtard.

A number of men sleep with her and get infected,is that not murder?
No, they chose to sleep with her.
Rape is a daily thing for a whore.
Rape would still be punished. Don't be an idiot, and learn to think.
Stealing anything from drugs to money is common.
So would theft.
Married people having sex with hookers is Adultery.They cheat themselves out of having a normal,healthy life that is why suicide is very high among hookers.
That's not the concern of government.

Just go ahead and keep calling people idiots because your to ignorant to understand this.

You evil scumbag...look, the practical results are unimportant. All that matters is that no law is in place that violates individual rights--meaning that, in any moral society, prostitution is legalized.

Flamewars are bad. Happy place.

...let's say a whore has Aids,she knows it but does'nt stop.A number of men sleep with her and get infected,is that not murder?

I don't see that that's relevant to the debate at hand.

Besides, legalization of prostitution is more likely to prevent that situation. Why? If the government (and thus customers) can discriminate between "good" and "bad" prostitutes via testing, what do you think will happen? In a properly regulated business environment, a prostitute lying like that would be commiting fraud, at the very least.

Rape is a daily thing for a whore.

Then, again, you should support the legalization of prostitution, because the women themselves would then be able to report abuses to the police without risking their very livelihood.

Unless of course you referred to those people forced into business. That's called slavery and is already condemned in every civilized nation in the world.

Stealing anything from drugs to money is common.

Since you evidently have them, would you care to back that statement up with real figures?

They cheat themselves out of having a normal,healthy life that is why suicide is very high among hookers.

So then, again, shouldn't you legalize prostitution so that the women can gain access to publically funded counseling programs? I think that was your concern, anyway.

Couldn't it also be argued that one reason for these supposed higher suicide rates is that so many people hold a strong prejudice against prostitues?

I suppose it would be prudent of me to ask for figures there, too.

I have heard of hookers being gang raped because of the color of their skin.

People who aren't prostitutes are victims of rape, too. I'd have to see some obvious numerical correlation before I see relevance.