NationStates Jolt Archive

In the recent proposal for prostitution, it has become obvious that, much like the founding fathers of America feared, a democracy is a government which should be rebelledl against. Majority rule without exception is totalitarianism, and the UN should not be allowed to continue as such.

I propose that a small, select group (perhaps five?) should act as a 'check' against the UN; it should have authority over the UN and decide whether proposals are international or local, and terminate any proopsals that effect national sovereignty. The groups should consist of mods and/or elected objective members of the UN (perhaps with a certain length of a term).

...Unfortunately, I don't have the endorsements to submit a proposal, so it someone else wants to...:wink:

What, and spoil all of this vicious chaos? Perish the thought.

the UN definitely needs reformation...that is for sure...

WHat are the odds of that happening?!

We may be a new nation, but the Romans would gladly apply for such a job.

The Armed Republic of Corvus Regius would gladly lend our support to any such council- however, we do not presume to take a part in it- We're still very, very new.

In the recent proposal for prostitution, it has become obvious that, much like the founding fathers of America feared, a democracy is a government which should be rebelledl against. Majority rule without exception is totalitarianism, and the UN should not be allowed to continue as such.

I propose that a small, select group (perhaps five?) should act as a 'check' against the UN; it should have authority over the UN and decide whether proposals are international or local, and terminate any proopsals that effect national sovereignty. The groups should consist of mods and/or elected objective members of the UN (perhaps with a certain length of a term).

...Unfortunately, I don't have the endorsements to submit a proposal, so it someone else wants to...:wink:


It would change game mechanics and it would be deleted, sorry :wink:

"What is democracy, but mob rule?"

Personally I like a Republic-style government

To second Matthuis' comment - it's against game mechanics and would be deleted.

In the recent proposal for prostitution, it has become obvious that, much like the founding fathers of America feared, a democracy is a government which should be rebelledl against. Majority rule without exception is totalitarianism, and the UN should not be allowed to continue as such.

I propose that a small, select group (perhaps five?) should act as a 'check' against the UN; it should have authority over the UN and decide whether proposals are international or local, and terminate any proopsals that effect national sovereignty. The groups should consist of mods and/or elected objective members of the UN (perhaps with a certain length of a term).

...Unfortunately, I don't have the endorsements to submit a proposal, so it someone else wants to...:wink:

Then you've replaced mob rule with an equally arbitrary, equally totalitarian clique of 5 ppl.

The Founding Fathers knew that the solution to the tyranny of the majorit were LAWS and DECENTRALIZATION, which checked the government. The Rule of Law (and that means that EVERYONE follows the law, including the government) is the only way to ensure freedom.

I agree that the United Nations has ceased to perform its initial function.
However, I disagree that it can be reformed.
The inherent nature of this organization leads to instability and "mob rule."
I think that the only way that this can be solved is by the formation of a different organization, which will operate under more constraints, and require the aproval both of an elected panel, and a defitie supermajority of the nations of the world to get things done.
I think we are all safer if it is HARDER to get resolutions passed than easier.

"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber." Plato (427-347 B.C.)
"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain


Voof-land has spoken.

I agree with Voofland. Ideally, there would be a restrictive Constitution higher than the government, that could only be amended by a 5/6 supermajority of the people, and all laws would have to follow such a Constitution or be shot down by the judiciary.

In the days of the fore fathers of America, prostitution was rampant. Many of our founding fathers indulged with prostitutes, though it is not commonly spoken of. Many of the presidents also had mistresses, and fathered children with them, though it is not spoken of. If these men had committed adultery on many occasions, but when president Clinton did it he was impeached, and the others not.

I agree with Voofland. Ideally, there would be a restrictive Constitution higher than the government, that could only be amended by a 5/6 supermajority of the people, and all laws would have to follow such a Constitution or be shot down by the judiciary.

That seems like an accurate pragmatic application of the ideals I have spoken of. Thank you.

In the days of the fore fathers of America, prostitution was rampant.
You're stating facts without a shred of evidence. I don't believe it. Support your statement.

If these men had committed adultery on many occasions, but when president Clinton did it he was impeached, and the others not.
Not a single one of President Clinton's articles of impeachment dealt with adultery. They dealt with obstruction of justice, perjury, and matters much more important to our legal system than adultery.

Voof-land has spoken.

You're stating facts without a shred of evidence. I don't believe it. Support your statement.

It is the world's oldest profession... Prostitution was extremely rampant during all eras of history. Especially during Ancient Rome, where the richest woman in Rome for a while was a prostitute.

You're stating facts without a shred of evidence. I don't believe it. Support your statement.

It is the world's oldest profession... Prostitution was extremely rampant during all eras of history. Especially during Ancient Rome, where the richest woman in Rome for a while was a prostitute.
Still no evidence. Give a link to a University history site or something. It would lend credence to your argument.
And even if it is old, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's OK!

"Men have forgotten God, that's why these things happened." Alexander Slozyhenitsyn

Voof-land has spoken.

http://deptorg.knox.edu/engdept/commonroom/Volume_Two/number_one/mbaumgar/print.html

Prostitution during the Transcendentalist period.

Look, I can quote Solzhenistyn too!

If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

If you want a debate, General is your home make a new thread there instead 8) :wink: