NationStates Jolt Archive


Please do not legalize prostitution

Mintar
30-01-2004, 05:01
Morals and national sovreignity aside, there are several reasons not to vote for the current resolution.


a) It decreases the number of women working in legit professions (no comments about how prostitution is "useful" please, there are plenty of singles bars).

b) Legalizing prostituion would, of course, increase the # of prostitutes. Since it would be impossible, especially for poor countries, to ensure that all customers and... er... servers... are tested for STDs, this could easily further the spread of AIDS etc.

c) Finally, this is probably against many of the values that the 30-40k nations in the UN are against (especially the religious ones). In addition, poor governments would be forced to spend money on making sure that this resolution is enforced (testing for STDs, etc.) and not on something more useful, like, say education.
Santin
30-01-2004, 06:11
a) It decreases the number of women working in legit professions (no comments about how prostitution is "useful" please, there are plenty of singles bars).

That statement implies that there is a severe unemployment problem in the female population. You're not against working women, are you?

b) Legalizing prostituion would, of course, increase the # of prostitutes. Since it would be impossible, especially for poor countries, to ensure that all customers and... er... servers... are tested for STDs, this could easily further the spread of AIDS etc.

Legalisation comes with the added benefit of legislation and quality control. Study the US Prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s and its eventual end if you want a near perfect example if that principle in action.

c) Finally, this is probably against many of the values that the 30-40k nations in the UN are against (especially the religious ones). In addition, poor governments would be forced to spend money on making sure that this resolution is enforced (testing for STDs, etc.) and not on something more useful, like, say education.

The United Nations is a democratic body -- its members determine its morals. You do have a point, but bear in mind that, at the moment, voting is coming in at something near a 2:1 ratio for legalisation. Secondly, if a nation does not wish to spend money on testing for STDs, it is not forced to, so I'm not sure I understand that complaint.
30-01-2004, 06:14
Interesting, because as far as I can see, where countries have legalised prostitution, STD rates have decreased. In Kings Cross in Aussie, women can now practice safely off the streets, and have access to medical care.
Giverny
30-01-2004, 06:31
This is not some commodity we are talking about, we are talking about people. People who others want to use as mere meat. There is no justice or rightousness in tolerating this mistreatment of a human being. Are there not people here, who in there own experience rail against the mistreatment of people? Who have suffered mistreatment in their own lives because their value as and an individual, a human, was disregarded?

How can you defend the legalization and tolerance of a very industry that feeds on the weak and crushes their hopes into the vices that rot at the udnerbelly of our societies? There is nothing good that these women and men who work in this "industry" can reap from it; only dark twisted souls who see their fellow countrymen as monsters who prey on them, with money, for the touch of their flesh, not of their minds, souls and hearts.

It's cheap and disgusting. The act of love is already trivialized too often to be turned into a mockery of itself and be for sale.

Sincerely,
The Republic of Giverny
Lichens
30-01-2004, 06:42
I speak for our nation and the nations of the Darconian Alliance. We are horrified by the idea that legalized prostitution would be forced upon the UN. The UN is turning into a tyranny of the majority, this must be stopped. Nations cannot simply expect to dictate the morals of other nations nor vice-versa without it one way or another becoming a tyranny.
Kanabia
30-01-2004, 06:54
Kanabia believes that there should be no need to legalize prostitution in any country. If citizens are reduced to selling their bodies in order to survive, there is something wrong with that society and the underlying problems should instead be tackled.

It is for this reason that we oppose the resolution.

However, we will abide by the resolution if it passes, but we also note that it does not say that we cannot place limits upon the legalisation, for example, set times and areas in which the practice can take place in order to keep it under control.
30-01-2004, 07:14
30-01-2004, 07:14
30-01-2004, 07:15
I speak for our nation and the nations of the Darconian Alliance. We are horrified by the idea that legalized prostitution would be forced upon the UN. The UN is turning into a tyranny of the majority, this must be stopped. Nations cannot simply expect to dictate the morals of other nations nor vice-versa without it one way or another becoming a tyranny.

I must agree with the Darconian Alliance. Although I would support the legalization of prostitution in my own country, should the issue ever come up, I cannot see how it is necessary to force this bill on all the Un's members. This is one of those issues that a country should decide for itself based on their own economy and morals.
30-01-2004, 07:22
First, let us state that Lubria is against any UN resolution that forces all member states to conform to a single moral code. The western ideal is not the only ideal. Many different cultures have many different concepts about what constitutes a family, what love is, what marriage entails, etc. The UN should not seek to wipe out the practice of differing view points, only those that conflict with basic human rights, and it should most defiantly not prohibit the expression of those viewpoints. Lubria is against this resolution on those grounds. Any other objections we have to this proposal are irrelevant to us.

That being said...

Giverny, we would remind you that we are not talking about love here. There is little pretense in the nature of the transaction with prostitution. It should only involve consenting adults, and Lubria sees no problem in two consenting adults engaging in any sort of transaction, so long as it does not interfere with other citizen's human and civil rights.

Conditions under legalized, government regulated, prostitution are very different from those under the illegal prostitution. The women (or men) are better paid, receive medical care, and have the right to refuse service, like any other employee. No one is forcing the consenting adults to work in brothels, and no one is forcing persons to patronize such establishments.

You may view it as cheap and disgusting, but others view it as just as harmless as any other service based industry.

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Once again, Lubria opposes UN regulation over matters that should be in the hands of individual member states. We have chosen to protect the rights of individuals to seek employment in industries that may be morally questionable to some groups, but have not been shown to be illegal.

Finnally, I see no issue with a government collecting on such transactions. Governments already tax tobacco, alcohol, and a plethora of other items and services. Though one may see a moral distinction between the aforementioned examples and prostitution, Lubria sees no legal distinction.

Morality aside, Lubria only takes legal issue with the UN dictating morality to the world, and feels that is the true slippery slope. What next, the outlaw of multiple partner unions, UN standards on decency in literature. Lubria urges all nation states concerned with preserving their sovereign rights to vote against this proposal, and suggest that nations so inclined to legalize prostitution do so within their own borders.
30-01-2004, 08:24
In part I, Shamsiel, the loyal servant of the Grand Vizier Ezeqeel, bearer of the All Holy Light of Kokablel, may it shine forever, find myself in agreement with the august representative of Lubria. While I am bound by the faith of my people in the search for the uniformity of all people under the blessed light of Kokablel, I note a tremendous hypocrisy within the United Nations.

Resolution:
Religious Tolerance, dated June 21, 2003

Resolution:
Gay Rights, dated May 3, 2003
The Rights of Labor Unions, dated November 24, 2003
End Barbaric Punishments, dated December 11, 2003
Legalise Euthenasia, dated Friday January 26, 2004

"While in some ways, such as End Barbaric Punishments, it may be argued that these matters deal with human rights, I find that the United Nations has become nothing more than the tool of a small number of forces to enforce their views of ethics and morality upon the remainder of the world. If this is the accepted policy of your most august and noble body, you must strike the Religious Tolerance resolution forthwith and modify the Universal Bill of Rights."

"The Holy Light of Kokablel, may it shine forever, is a noble and peaceful belief, but one based upon many strict and rigorous moral goals. Ours are a people guided by these goals, and as a result ours is also a peaceful and prosperous nation. The United Nations is a place of mutual growth and respect, not the tool of some nations to force conformity upon the majority through the delegate system. Is this nation, ruled by the Holy Light of Kokablel, may it shine forever, to leave its deep devotion merely because you think it is wrong? If so, you are all in violation of your own resolutions."

"For shame upon you, having demanded we conform to your heathen faiths, necessitating that you are right and noble and we are not. I stand as the voice of dissension within your ranks, and as the All Holy Light of Kokablel, may it shine forever, is my guide I will stand before you and strike down your moralistic tyranny that holy doctrine is not trampled in your declarations of 'progress.'"

With that, Shamsiel walks away from the podium, not looking mollified at all. It would seem further legislation is to come from that small nation, and legislation that stands against the vote of many delegates.
30-01-2004, 08:30
You all are taking this so far. If you don't want this to pass, why did your delegates approve of it then?

This is all dumbfounding.
30-01-2004, 08:36
"I quote the book of Jomjael, chapter 5, verses 13-16, 'And lo, children, all decision of the sword granted unto this world is in the hand of thine overseer. There are those among you who clamor for a say in the wielding the sword of this world, praying that they might control its path and course. Such is folly and worthy of the blessed and sanctified touch of the clamps and the weighted stones, for no untrained child, unfamiliar with the ways of the Light, should wield the sword. More so, only the greatest among you in the light ought wield the sword and only they may delegate its wielding, for it is for the children's benefit that they do.'"

"This is one of the reasons why a Republican representation fails. The delegates hold full authority and vast votes. They may declare their will by fiat due to the tacit consent of your sheep-like masses. Woe to you, for you do not see that this is why the Holy Light of Kokablel, may it shine forever, declares them children to be guided and guarded. They lend their power to fools, and unfair demands are voted through. It is as unjust as a corrupt dictator."
30-01-2004, 09:09
We agree with Lubria on this matter. It is highly unlikely that prostitution would be made illegal in the Rogue Nation of Squeezitlandia--but it is a matter that should be decided by nations and the people of those nations.
30-01-2004, 10:28
This bill provides no protection for those people who are forced into prostitution through drugs addiction or because they are immigrants unable to get legitimate work. There is no consideration for example of Eastern European children who are kidnapped then forced to work in our own cities.

This should not be allowed to pass without an amendment re-enforcing the need for the police to monitor prostitution activities to ensure that those emplyed are doing so of their own free wil and are not forced into prostitution by third parties.

If this resolution does pass please support the amendment I will post to cover this
30-01-2004, 11:10
I voted for the legalization of prostitution. I hope it passes. Sure your countries may not agree with it, but then again I had to accept a ton of laws by the UN that I thought were stupid, socialistic and against my country's princples of Liberty and Capitalism. But I accepted it beacuse I agreed to join the UN.

The whole point of being in the UN is that (unfortunetly) you agree to the laws the majority pass. Whether you like them or not. You don't get to pick and choose which laws you want to follow . . . it doesn't work that way.

I had to accept laws I thought were very stupid. We all do. This is no different.

Besides prostitution is voluntary. If it were rape, yeah, that's horrible. But if people want to sell themselves for sex, I see no different than selling a massage or foot rub. They want to do it for money. Their body. Their choice. Same with the person paying them. Consenting adults.

Who are we to tell them any different?
Bloody mindness
30-01-2004, 12:57
your argument "A" is silly
Your argeument "B" is worse
your argument "C" relies on the right wing christian fundamentalists ......

(ever wondered why the word "mental" is in the word fundamenalist ???????)
The Global Market
30-01-2004, 13:00
PROSTITUTION IS A COMBINATION OF SEX AND FREE ENTERPRISE.

Which one are you against?

Then either you're a communist or you support www.vhemt.org
Teknocracy
30-01-2004, 13:50
I speak on behalf of the four nations of the region Western Cosmopolitan Unity: People should be allowed to decide individual if they want to participate in the prostitution, it is a logical conclusion looking at the democratic rights of free will and free thinking. Forced prostitution combined with crime should be taken care of by the law enforcement.

Besides, our armies need volunteers for entertaining our boys with save sex instead of visiting non-regulated places.

We vote YEA

Technocratian out
Hirota
30-01-2004, 13:50
The Hirotan government has decided to vote against the resolution. We feel that instead of the poor having to fund their own lives through selling their bodies, it is the responsibility of the wealthy and the government to ensure though social welfare that no citizen is in a position to need to resort to prostitution.

Moreover, would prostitution simply encourages crime. It is our experience that prostitution runs hand in hand to other organised criminal activities such as drugs. The hirotan government could not risk organised crime gaining a foothold in our nation, especially while our nation enjoys such comparative low crime with only a small police force.
The Global Market
30-01-2004, 14:00
The Global Market
30-01-2004, 14:01
The Hirotan government has decided to vote against the resolution. We feel that instead of the poor having to fund their own lives through selling their bodies, it is the responsibility of the wealthy and the government to ensure though social welfare that no citizen is in a position to need to resort to prostitution.

Moreover, would prostitution simply encourages crime. It is our experience that prostitution runs hand in hand to other organised criminal activities such as drugs. The hirotan government could not risk organised crime gaining a foothold in our nation, especially while our nation enjoys such comparative low crime with only a small police force.

Drugs are not criminal. And organized crime comes, not from drugs and prostitution, but from the black markets of those commodities once you've abolished them. Before the US abolished drugs in the 1910s, there was no drug-related organized crime and very little violence.

The War on Drugs has set off the worst crime wave since prohibition. This crime comes from black markets, not from the drugs themselves.
Perverts And Hippies
30-01-2004, 14:43
If the government legalises prostition it should set up brothels in which customers are tested for STDs the time is not long for waiting if labs are not bunged with other tests and this would insure public health. Any way most hookers are nymphomaniacs so let them enjoy themselves in safety.
Hirota
30-01-2004, 14:45
Drugs are not criminal. And organized crime comes, not from drugs and prostitution, but from the black markets of those commodities once you've abolished them. Before the US abolished drugs in the 1910s, there was no drug-related organized crime and very little violence.

We have a moderately strong set of laws against drugs, and enjoy low crime. We don't need prostitution to support the poor - we have a population that cares about the poor. We appreciate this is not always the case for other member nations, but we have no need for prosititutes to be legalised.

I do find it interesting that so many nations pay so little regard for their citizens - I imagine all nations will be expecting a tax windfall for their legalised prostitutes. I wonder if nations are perhaps motivated less for a regard for their population, and instead anticipating the tax windfall that comes from effectively pimping out their population?

The legalisation of prostitution is a failure on a governments part to effectively care for those most in need of support. It is a betrayal of trust!
30-01-2004, 14:52
30-01-2004, 15:35
This whole question illustrates why the Dominion of Petrolium Springs is not and has no immediate plans to become a member of the United Nations. Surrendering the right to establish the rule of laws particular to any nation to the kaotic and often misguided rulings of the United Nations reduces members of the United Nations to puppets of the few. Moral questions such as the one under question here should be decided by the governments and peoples of each individual nation, not by those who have probably never even heard of most of the member nations of the United nations. Before any nation surrenders their independence to the ravages of the United nations law makers, an undertaking by the United Nations, that any regulations passed by that august body will be fair to all (or at least most) must be clearly demonstrated. This issue of the legalization of prostitution, once again, proves that the United Nations is unable or unwilling to support such an undertaking.
The Dominion of Petroium Springs will avoid making any comparisons with the political prostitutes who occupy most of our government offices.
Christophie
30-01-2004, 15:43
This is not some commodity we are talking about, we are talking about people. People who others want to use as mere meat. There is no justice or rightousness in tolerating this mistreatment of a human being. Are there not people here, who in there own experience rail against the mistreatment of people? Who have suffered mistreatment in their own lives because their value as and an individual, a human, was disregarded?

How can you defend the legalization and tolerance of a very industry that feeds on the weak and crushes their hopes into the vices that rot at the udnerbelly of our societies? There is nothing good that these women and men who work in this "industry" can reap from it; only dark twisted souls who see their fellow countrymen as monsters who prey on them, with money, for the touch of their flesh, not of their minds, souls and hearts.

It's cheap and disgusting. The act of love is already trivialized too often to be turned into a mockery of itself and be for sale.

Sincerely,
The Republic of Giverny

No one will be forcing women to practice this job. No one will be treated as meat. What do you think happens now, with no governmental supervision? It is time people (men and women) have the right to choose the job they want. :lol:
30-01-2004, 16:10
While the nation of Evoche espouses the ideals of freedom and liberty among all it's citizens, we have always maintained a strong emphasis on traditional family values and a strong moral code.

Because of this, the nation of Evoche has adopted a mixed attitude towards prostitution, keeping it under control and segregated from the rest of society, yet still holding brothels to the same rigorous inspections and regulations that we hold ALL economic entities.

We are content with the way things are, and we believe whole-heartedly that prostitution should remain an independant issue and up to individual nations to decide.

If prostitution were to be made entirely legal in Evoche, there would not be much change, admittedly, as we are very close to having it legal already....

But think of the horrors this would inflict upon our more conservative nations. Evoche, while publicly denouncing right-wing and highly conservative nations, still respects their rights to sovreignity and their own moral code... as divergent as it may be from ours.

Inflicting this law upon our conservative nations will only serve to enrage them, and add fuel to the fires that threaten to cause an immeasurable rift between us all. This must be avoided at all costs.

We vote "no" for this resolution on the grounds that it violates the personal sovreignity of all member-states, and threatens peace in the U.N.
30-01-2004, 17:15
What is this world coming to. Legalizing prostitution...This is a matter that should not be discussed in the UN, as it is a matter for each individual nation to decide.

No benefits come from prostitution. If anything, it would only cause more problems. People who desire an easy living could simply quit their job and become a prostitute for a living, and the economy would becoming nothing but a festering cess pool. Legalized prostitution could (note how we say could, because this is hypothetical) more than double the number of people who have contracted HIV, because the disease would be spread like wildfire with the dramatic increase of people having sexual intercourse. Prostitution is already a big business in the back alleys and subways. If it were legalized, even the most luxurious areas could be filled with prostitutes.

What's worse is that prostitution creates the idea that having sex with more than one partner and be payed for it is safe and a legit business. One, this goes against all of Cheronton's moral values. Two, Cheronton refuses to pass a Resolution that sends a message to people, children especially, that it is healthy for you.
31-01-2004, 02:28
Unforuntaly for Cheronton, your country is going to have to comply with the UN. Regardless if you like it or not. If you dont- back out of the UN. Robert_Paulsons everywhere disagree with many of UN resolutions that are passed- which is why there are so many colonies of Robert-Paulsons everywhere that are not apart of the UN.

Simply enough, Robert_Paulsons already has legal prostitution in effect- and our economy is thriving and jiving. Morals? Oh please, Morals are a "slippery slope" fallacy unto themseleves. There are no set morals that everyone should follow.
31-01-2004, 02:29
Unforuntaly for Cheronton, your country is going to have to comply with the UN. Regardless if you like it or not. If you dont- back out of the UN. Robert_Paulsons everywhere disagree with many of UN resolutions that are passed- which is why there are so many colonies of Robert-Paulsons everywhere that are not apart of the UN.

Simply enough, Robert_Paulsons already has legal prostitution in effect- and our economy is thriving and jiving. Morals? Oh please, Morals are a "slippery slope" fallacy unto themseleves. There are no set morals that everyone should follow.
31-01-2004, 02:29
Unforuntaly for Cheronton, your country is going to have to comply with the UN. Regardless if you like it or not. If you dont- back out of the UN. Robert_Paulsons everywhere disagree with many of UN resolutions that are passed- which is why there are so many colonies of Robert-Paulsons everywhere that are not apart of the UN.

Simply enough, Robert_Paulsons already has legal prostitution in effect- and our economy is thriving and jiving. Morals? Oh please, Morals are a "slippery slope" fallacy unto themseleves. There are no set morals that everyone should follow.
31-01-2004, 02:30
Unforuntaly for Cheronton, your country is going to have to comply with the UN. Regardless if you like it or not. If you dont- back out of the UN. Robert_Paulsons everywhere disagree with many of UN resolutions that are passed- which is why there are so many colonies of Robert-Paulsons everywhere that are not apart of the UN.

Simply enough, Robert_Paulsons already has legal prostitution in effect- and our economy is thriving and jiving. Morals? Oh please, Morals are a "slippery slope" fallacy unto themseleves. There are no set morals that everyone should follow.
imported_Isla Saudade
31-01-2004, 05:19
a) It decreases the number of women working in legit professions (no comments about how prostitution is "useful" please, there are plenty of singles bars).

That's bullshit. Do you think women with chances of having a proper job will all of a sudden become prostitutes? That's ridicoulous.

b) Legalizing prostituion would, of course, increase the # of prostitutes. Since it would be impossible, especially for poor countries, to ensure that all customers and... er... servers... are tested for STDs, this could easily further the spread of AIDS etc.

Another stupid assumption. Poverty could increase the quantity, not legality. Legality will just let the poor on capitalist countries have at least an income, instead of having to spend the night on jail. And if capitalist countries would stop buying Ferraris for the rich exploiters, maybe those IMPORTANT tests could be free for everyone.

c) Finally, this is probably against many of the values that the 30-40k nations in the UN are against (especially the religious ones). In addition, poor governments would be forced to spend money on making sure that this resolution is enforced (testing for STDs, etc.) and not on something more useful, like, say education.

In fact they should cut their military expenditures instead of the education.
In this world we need more free STD tests and educated people, we don't need more nuclear weapons or machineguns.
Morphean Bretagne
31-01-2004, 07:49
Marshal Morpheus, ruler of Morphean Bretagne, recently passed an edict drafting all prostitutes into the army for the nearly sole purpose of annoying Isla Saudade. Also, it fairly negates any effect of this resolution if it were passed, although the Government has voted No on the issue.
Mintar
31-01-2004, 16:14
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That statement implies that there is a severe unemployment problem in the female population. You're not against working women, are you?

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Legalisation comes with the added benefit of legislation and quality control. Study the US Prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s and its eventual end if you want a near perfect example if that principle in action.

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The United Nations is a democratic body -- its members determine its morals. You do have a point, but bear in mind that, at the moment, voting is coming in at something near a 2:1 ratio for legalisation. Secondly, if a nation does not wish to spend money on testing for STDs, it is not forced to, so I'm not sure I understand that complaint.

a) No I am not against working women, but even in the U.S. today women still don't get paid as much as men etc. While this law extends to both genders, no one can argue that it will mainly be women who would sell their bodies in such a fashion. It would reduce women's position to worse than they were in the 19th century; at least then they were respected and had an important, now they are just sex objects.

b) So they UN is paying for this or what? Once again, even if the poor countries in the UN can afford this, they'll have to take away money from education etc. to pay for this, and the taxes they'll get from this won't be able to pay for that.

c) It's members have a right to determine some morals, yes, but this is going too far.

No, a nation isn't forced to test "customers" for STDs, but then the country would have an out of control STD problem, which no one really wants.

And as to the voting ratio, you'll note that now it is a lot less than 2:1
Mintar
31-01-2004, 16:19
That's bullshit. Do you think women with chances of having a proper job will all of a sudden become prostitutes? That's ridicoulous.

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Another stupid assumption. Poverty could increase the quantity, not legality. Legality will just let the poor on capitalist countries have at least an income, instead of having to spend the night on jail. And if capitalist countries would stop buying Ferraris for the rich exploiters, maybe those IMPORTANT tests could be free for everyone.

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In fact they should cut their military expenditures instead of the education.
In this world we need more free STD tests and educated people, we don't need more nuclear weapons or machineguns.

a) Prostitution can make a lot more money than being a secretary, say due to the large amount of money some are willing to pay. No, a woman who could, say, go into business, would not be a prostitute, but someone in a 3rd world country (say Africa), who's desperate to feed her children might decide to sell her body since her low-paying job isn't earning enough for the family.

b) This debate has nothing to do with capitalist exploitation of other countries. At any rate, yes, the poor who went into this profession would have a better income... until they died of some horrible STD.

c) They should, but they won't. I can't see a militaristic dictatorial regime cutting much of its military budget just to pay for this legislation. No, they'll either ignore it (causing an epidemic) or cut something else out. Or raise taxes even higher.
Mintar
31-01-2004, 16:21
Interesting, because as far as I can see, where countries have legalised prostitution, STD rates have decreased. In Kings Cross in Aussie, women can now practice safely off the streets, and have access to medical care.

Yeah, but take Africa. The African governments are already suffering under the AIDs epidemic (aided by prostitution) and can't even afford to get its people drugs for this, even with massive donations from other countries. So now they have enough money to pay for testing?

Anyway, I have to go; I hope I have responded to enough comments on this legitimately. Let the debate continue! :wink:
Collaboration
31-01-2004, 16:38
Criminalization has not eliminated prostitution in any state.
Legalization can include health meaasure whioch will protect the public.
Legalization can provide supervision and review to prevent persons becoming caught up in the business involuntarily.
The heaalth and enforcement system can pay for itself through taxes and fees on the business.
Law enforcement personnel can be freed up to concentrate on crimes of violence.
31-01-2004, 18:23
Regardless of whether prostitution is immoral or not, of whether is would help the governments of the world or not, I believe that this is yet ANOTHER example of the United Nations overstepping its bounds and becoming the moral policeman of the world.
The sovreingty of Voof-land is violated when the United Nations comes in and says that it must legalize something abbhorrent to all of the upstanding and respectable citizens not only of Voof-land, but of nations throughout the world. The United Nations was formed to solve conflicts through peaceful means, not to impose the morality of a few liberal idealogues upon the entire world! This is an outrage!
Furthermore, not only is this an outrage, but the entire region of Catholicity is seriously debating whether to leave the UN over such ludicrous and lewd proposals as this one. VoofLand, for one, is not going to see it's right trampled upon the name of world democracy and welfare. We demand that such proposals be stopped, and that the United Nations revert to its respectable role as peacekeeper, not that of a totalitarian fascist moral reformer!
And I do not use the word "fascist" lightly, but there is none other to describe the actions of this world body, which views its power over the the moral lives of the citizens of the world as absolute and unchallenged.

Voof-land has spoken.
31-01-2004, 18:23
Regardless of whether prostitution is immoral or not, of whether is would help the governments of the world or not, I believe that this is yet ANOTHER example of the United Nations overstepping its bounds and becoming the moral policeman of the world.
The sovreingty of Voof-land is violated when the United Nations comes in and says that it must legalize something abbhorrent to all of the upstanding and respectable citizens not only of Voof-land, but of nations throughout the world. The United Nations was formed to solve conflicts through peaceful means, not to impose the morality of a few liberal idealogues upon the entire world! This is an outrage!
Furthermore, not only is this an outrage, but the entire region of Catholicity is seriously debating whether to leave the UN over such ludicrous and lewd proposals as this one. VoofLand, for one, is not going to see it's right trampled upon the name of world democracy and welfare. We demand that such proposals be stopped, and that the United Nations revert to its respectable role as peacekeeper, not that of a totalitarian fascist moral reformer!
And I do not use the word "fascist" lightly, but there is none other to describe the actions of this world body, which views its power over the the moral lives of the citizens of the world as absolute and unchallenged.

Voof-land has spoken.
Copiosa Scotia
08-02-2004, 05:19
Interesting, because as far as I can see, where countries have legalised prostitution, STD rates have decreased. In Kings Cross in Aussie, women can now practice safely off the streets, and have access to medical care.

Yes, but Australia is one of those fortunate nations that can afford to screen all of its "providers". Imagine what a difficult time a nation like Sierra Leone would have doing the same. The resolution essentially offers such nations a choice between severe financial problems and unchecked spread of STDs.