NationStates Jolt Archive


Prostitution

Anceltierre
29-01-2004, 23:27
Humbug I say to it, only horny teens would want it :evil: ,and I say we are above that. This new resolution should not be allowed to pass. Whose with me!?
29-01-2004, 23:46
30-01-2004, 00:19
No moral, rational nation is with you.
The Global Market
30-01-2004, 01:03
I agree. People have the right to their own bodies. Our Senate votes overwhelmingly in favor of this resolution.
30-01-2004, 23:21
My nation most definitly is in favour of legalising prostitution. Not only could it be regulated properly, the prostitutes them selves could be made to get medical certificates to show they were free of diseases. They would be made to pay taxes like any other self employed worker.
The streets would be free of them on the pavements as they could advertise legallly in certain places. They could do their business in doors out of the view of anyone. And many other reasons why it should be legalised.
Anceltierre
30-01-2004, 23:24
Anceltierre
30-01-2004, 23:24
30-01-2004, 23:51
30-01-2004, 23:52
it is a very good way to boost economy and tourism, you would be dumb to think otherwise. plus hoe can you say no to a pretty prostitute :wink: :shock:
30-01-2004, 23:52
Letila
31-01-2004, 00:55
Ceroo
31-01-2004, 00:57
Letila
31-01-2004, 00:58
The capitalist aspect is bad, but other than that, it's ok.

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31-01-2004, 01:14
My country most definately supports the issue at hand, Legalisation of Prostitution, it is a win-win situation; in addition, a right, albeit may not be endorsed by all, is given a blessing from the government. Prositution, the right to get plastic surgery, a piercing or a tattoo, or the right to have sex with your neighbor or best friend is all the same, a freedom to do what you want, while not inflecting any negative impact on society.

Civil freedom is an absolute must, and in this situation, the female/male has a choice to sell their services to recieve money in the pursuit of hapiness; the purchaser of said goods receives a service which they value highly, and are willing to pay for the service.

At the same time, crime can be decreased by regulating prostitution to eliminate pimps, and thus violent crime. While not a complete elimination of crime, removing a key element from our society can only help.
Ceroo
31-01-2004, 01:15
We are not against legalising prostitution per se, but we are against legalising it without any regulation. If the current resolution were to pass, anybody could go out onto the street and prostitute themselves- which we believe to be quite dangerous. If it must be done, we would like a situation where prostitution takes places in registered and regulated brothels only. Here, prostitutes could practice safely in a secure area, and also cleanly as such a place would be subject to government health laws. While we could establish these brothels, this resolution allows prostitution anywhere in the UN- how can we 'use monies taxed from prostitution to help the poor' when people are able to do it privately and secretly and keep the money for themselves, and not work within a regulated brothel?
We also think that the 'people would be able to sell themselves' phrase is far too broad and open for all kinds of misinterpretation and misrepresentation.
We would likely agree to a more fine-tuned resolution, closer to our ideas, but do not wish to risk 'opening the floodgates' as it were.

Although we may be for legalising prostitution, we are against the current resolution and will vote thus.
Ceroo
31-01-2004, 01:15
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Ceroo
31-01-2004, 01:16
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31-01-2004, 01:19
My country most definately supports the issue at hand, Legalisation of Prostitution, it is a win-win situation; in addition, a right, albeit may not be endorsed by all, is given a blessing from the government. Prositution, the right to get plastic surgery, a piercing or a tattoo, or the right to have sex with your neighbor or best friend is all the same, a freedom to do what you want, while not inflecting any negative impact on society.

Civil freedom is an absolute must, and in this situation, the female/male has a choice to sell their services to recieve money in the pursuit of hapiness; the purchaser of said goods receives a service which they value highly, and are willing to pay for the service.

At the same time, crime can be decreased by regulating prostitution to eliminate pimps, and thus violent crime. While not a complete elimination of crime, removing a key element from our society can only help.
31-01-2004, 01:25
its not like we are forcing people to become prositutes. its a choice, plain and simple. everyone wins. those who have issues with it being immoral can go pray for our sins at their next mass, but not in my country.
31-01-2004, 01:41
the ferderation of ravinglunatics also stands for the legalization it is a wonderful way to tax a service and help the deficit :lol:
STFU Moron
31-01-2004, 01:49
legalizing prostitution would be a great idea. then as a nation i can regulate it, oversee it, TAX IT!!! and increase tourism dollars.

whats the big deal anyway, like anyone would disagree that sex sells. it sells a lot.

now thats a tourist tag line: HOTTEST CHICKS ON THE PLANET!!! come see them HERE. GET SOME LOVIN!!!

all you need is a dollar and a dream.
Letila
31-01-2004, 03:25
The right wing radicals want to eliminate freedom. I advice you to ignore them.

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31-01-2004, 06:36
I think it should be legal for the following reasons:
1. Legalized, It would cut down on crime (Did someone mention pimps?)
2. The reason its illegal in most countires is because its considered immoral. This is because of religion, and the church is supposed to be kept separate from the state.
3. Someone is bound to bring up adultery. Prostitution is not the cause of adultery, if it did'nt exist, people would cheat on their spouses with the nany or the secretary or the best friend.
4. In places where prostitution is legalized, the occurance of STD's is significantly lower than in places where it's not legal. This is a statistically proven fact based on a study someone did.
5. Legal Establishments such as brothels will often keep at least one doctor on staff, do medical check ups, and do extensive background checks on their employees.
6. Can you be sure that the nappy one night stand your husband is cheating on you with is clean?
7. An experienced sexual partner is a lot better than two awkward virgins going at it. A lot of people get turned off by sex and become gay or priests because they became disillusioned after the first try. Its tradition in a lot of places to make a boy a man by sending him to an experienced prostitute.
8. People have a right to do whatever they want with their bodies. As long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. I.e. drinking vs. drinking and driving.
9. I have actually a met trashy woman who in high school said she wanted to be a stripper. Now this girl isnt smart, she isnt rich, and the good school we went to clearly wasnt doing anything for her. So all she has to go by are her looks. Both models and Trophy wives are supposed to have a certain amount of class, so she couldnt trade on her looks to become one of those. And this is the type of girl who likes fast money, so a mundane job wasnt for her either. So what do you suggest, a nunnery?
Kryozerkia
31-01-2004, 06:40
Humbug I say to it, only horny teens would want it :evil: ,and I say we are above that. This new resolution should not be allowed to pass. Whose with me!?

I'm against it because it's the most illogical thing I've ever heard.
Lichens
31-01-2004, 06:57
No nation should have to be forced to revamp their government structure to accomodate prostitution. Those that are will shall be allowed and those that are not, shall not.
Wilkshire
01-02-2004, 13:55
I think that prostitution should be legalised, but have voted against the current resolution.

We have to accept that prostitution is going to go on whether we like it or not. Far better that it be brought above ground, where it can be properly regulated regarding STD's etc.

However, the current resolution is not detailed enough. There is no mention of age, which could mean that it is legalising child prostitution, or no regard to forced prostitution (which I hope everyone is against.)

If this resolution had been rewritten to include the points I have mentioned I would have supported it.
Shutupandlisten
01-02-2004, 16:55
"2. The reason its illegal in most countires is because its considered immoral. This is because of religion, and the church is supposed to be kept separate from the state." I think it needs to be illegal for the fact that you are getting paid for a talent that doesn't deserve payment. Getting pleasure off of one's misfortune (both ways, payer and prostitute) is just wrong as well.

"4. In places where prostitution is legalized, the occurance of STD's is significantly lower than in places where it's not legal. This is a statistically proven fact based on a study someone did."
If this is a proven fact I would like to know the exact numbers, who performe the study, and how they actually came up with these statistics.


"5. Legal Establishments such as brothels will often keep at least one doctor on staff, do medical check ups, and do extensive background checks on their employees."
But background checks don't always follow through to what should be done. Can you guarantee that those that carry out background checks will do what they are supposed to

"7. An experienced sexual partner is a lot better than two awkward virgins going at it. A lot of people get turned off by sex and become gay or priests because they became disillusioned after the first try. Its tradition in a lot of places to make a boy a man by sending him to an experienced prostitute."
Oh, poor babies getting disillusioned b/c of their first time. If they get that traumatized over intercourse, that's their own damn fault.

"8. People have a right to do whatever they want with their bodies. As long as it doesnt hurt anyone else. I.e. drinking vs. drinking and driving."
But it does hurt other people, it keeps their self-esteem pretty low. They have low standards even when they can do better, people are paying/making money off of other's misfortunes. HOw are none of these hurting people? While physically hurting someone may not happen, there are psychological damages.

"9. I have actually a met trashy woman who in high school said she wanted to be a stripper. Now this girl isnt smart, she isnt rich, and the good school we went to clearly wasnt doing anything for her. So all she has to go by are her looks. Both models and Trophy wives are supposed to have a certain amount of class, so she couldnt trade on her looks to become one of those. And this is the type of girl who likes fast money, so a mundane job wasnt for her either. So what do you suggest, a nunnery?"
What reasons did she want to be a stripper? O yeah, she likes fast money. If she likes fast money, she doesn't deserve to be in the real world to begin with.
Who says models have to have class?
CommunismRevisited-
01-02-2004, 17:00
I love watching the propositions in the UN.
Macsland
01-02-2004, 17:17
The people and government of Macsland most definitely support this proposal. :oops: Our tourism industry surely will expland and prosper :P with internet ads publicizing our most beautiful prostitues.
01-02-2004, 17:34
I'm against it because it will either create legions of bastard children or, if all the prostitutes get "fixed", it will create an entire legion of impotent women and precipitate an irreversible population decline. Not to mention the fact that it further degrades the sanctity of marriage, and marriage provides a solid environment for children to grow up in.

Also, I honestly object to this as a Catholic.

I am going to have to resign from my UN Delegateship if this insanity gets passed.
01-02-2004, 17:57
Firstly, who would oversee the running of legalised prostitution houses. This should be a priority in the creation of a newly "legalised" profession.

Secondly, all "professionals" should undergo a medical examination at regular intervals to avoid or rather limit the spread of STD. If you have no certificate from a state registered medical expert then you cannot operate in your chosen profession.

Thirdly, how can you tax someone on an unrecorded visitation schedule. There must be some kind of turnstile involved to record the amount of clients seen daily. Then a government would require documented proof of exactly what business was carried out during such a visit. I can hardly see many clients being happy to be filmed as proof of earnings can you!

I feel prostitution should be de-criminalised not legalised.
01-02-2004, 18:02
I think this proposal ignores a key issue fundamental to the UN charter. The United Nations cannot create laws to legalise activities in it's member nations. That is a blatant violation of soveringty, which is the most important tenant of the UN charter. Legalise prostitution in your own country guys. Don't abuse the UN.
01-02-2004, 18:03
Can I just note to those of you who think this would help your tourism industry, that you are completely and utterly incorrect? I would presume that your nations already have prostitution, since you, representatives of the government, support its legalization. Therefore, you already have tourism to your nation because of it. When all of the other countries are forced to legalize it, tourism would be reduced drastically as customers from those countries no longer need to travel in order to get a prostitute. Logic, people; it's not that hard.