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We have resigned from the UN. Copyright laws are wreaking havoc in our anarcho-communist society, all because of you. When we resigned, the copyright laws didn't lose their effect. According to our projections, capitalism will return within the week. It seems that the priviledge to make people pay to use knowledge is more important than egalitarianism.

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You do realize it hasn't actually taken place yet?

In addition, why? You would just be replaced, assuming you were the regional delegate. Anyway it is a pretty silly protest to say the least.

It has happened. I got a TG and everything. Letila isn't a regional delegate, so replacement isn't a problem.

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No Mods, No Masters!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

That is strange, I haven't gotten a TG or a 2nd new issue for today.

We're confused. Why was Letila a member of the UN in the first place?

Letila is an outspoken advocate of the principles of Anarchy as a form of government. We have heard the Letilian delegate says such phrases as "Capitalism and government are immoral (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2649188&highlight=#2649188)", "I would never sacrifice freedom for law and order! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2647906&highlight=#2647906)" and "more proof of the evils of government (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2649441&highlight=#2649441)" on more than one occasion. Yet they have chosen, as a nation, to subject themselves to the dictates of International Law in the UN.

Letila is also a member of the region known as Anarchy. Their World Factbook reads as follows:
The region of Anarchy is open to all, but is the home to many nations founded on the principles of Anarchy. As such, we deny all authority, reject class structure, and embrace personal freedom and equality for each citizen of every nation.
Despite this declaration of "den[ial of] all authority", there are nonetheless at least 35 UN Member states endorsing the current UN Regional Delegate from the Anarchy Region. We are at a loss how a region that decries any sort of government nonetheless welcomes the UN into their national affairs.


The Allied States of Frisbeeteria holds a dim view of such hypocrisy, and advises the delegate from Letila not to let the door hit him on the backside on the way out.

We have resigned from the UN. Copyright laws are wreaking havoc in our anarcho-communist society, all because of you. When we resigned, the copyright laws didn't lose their effect. According to our projections, capitalism will return within the week. It seems that the priviledge to make people pay to use knowledge is more important than egalitarianism.


Congradulations on a smart move.

We would also like to congratulate Letila on a smart move.


Strefethen and the entire Internationale would like to support the "anarcho-communist" statements and beliefs of the people of Letila.

While we have not resigned from the UN as of yet, we are very wary of it at this point. But, as new members, and new states, we are willing to explore reform from within (and to be honest, self growth) before we attempt our eventual goal of international revolution.

The Rogue Nation of Greenspoint would like to urge all other U.N. Member Nations with a government holding pro-anarchist and/or pro-communist leanings to follow Letila's example and resign from the U.N.

James Moehlman
Asst. Manager ico U.N. Affairs.

We suppose anarchic governments could join the UN in hopes of persuading the organization toward their point of view.

We're confused. Why was Letila a member of the UN in the first place?

Letila is an outspoken advocate of the principles of Anarchy as a form of government. We have heard the Letilian delegate says such phrases as "Capitalism and government are immoral (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2649188&highlight=#2649188)", "I would never sacrifice freedom for law and order! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2647906&highlight=#2647906)" and "more proof of the evils of government (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2649441&highlight=#2649441)" on more than one occasion. Yet they have chosen, as a nation, to subject themselves to the dictates of International Law in the UN.

Letila is also a member of the region known as Anarchy. Their World Factbook reads as follows:
The region of Anarchy is open to all, but is the home to many nations founded on the principles of Anarchy. As such, we deny all authority, reject class structure, and embrace personal freedom and equality for each citizen of every nation.
Despite this declaration of "den[ial of] all authority", there are nonetheless at least 35 UN Member states endorsing the current UN Regional Delegate from the Anarchy Region. We are at a loss how a region that decries any sort of government nonetheless welcomes the UN into their national affairs.


The Allied States of Frisbeeteria holds a dim view of such hypocrisy, and advises the delegate from Letila not to let the door hit him on the backside on the way out.



*Claps*

I checked and out of 40 or so nations in anarchy 3 were classed as one, none of them were the delegate or founder. But it is what you believe :lol:

The nations in the Anarchy region are mostly anarcho-communist or something along those lines. They would be classified as left wing utopias or something similar.

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I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Nations opposed to authority in general, or the UN in particular might like to consider approving my nation's proposal titled "The End", which aims to destroy the UN (while ataying within the rules of scope of proposals) by enacting laws so far reaching and ridiculous that all nations are forced to leave the UN or perish!

Nations opposed to authority in general, or the UN in particular might like to consider approving my nation's proposal titled "The End", which aims to destroy the UN (while ataying within the rules of scope of proposals) by enacting laws so far reaching and ridiculous that all nations are forced to leave the UN or perish!

Nations opposed to authority in general, or the UN in particular might like to consider approving my nation's proposal titled "The End", which aims to destroy the UN (while ataying within the rules of scope of proposals) by enacting laws so far reaching and ridiculous that all nations are forced to leave the UN or perish!

Good idea, Teebeestroika. I like your thinking.

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I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Why does it say that TGM posted even though there is no post by him?

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Pìg!ome, g||xòfùme.-I am a human, not a tool.
No Mods, No Masters!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

We're confused. Why was Letila a member of the UN in the first place?

Letila is an outspoken advocate of the principles of Anarchy as a form of government. We have heard the Letilian delegate says such phrases as "Capitalism and government are immoral (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2649188&highlight=#2649188)", "I would never sacrifice freedom for law and order! (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2647906&highlight=#2647906)" and "more proof of the evils of government (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2649441&highlight=#2649441)" on more than one occasion. Yet they have chosen, as a nation, to subject themselves to the dictates of International Law in the UN.

I'm an anarchist, I'm also part of the region called Anarchy and I'm a member of the UN. When I joined I thought that we could impose changes on other nations. In fact this was the first time I voted against a proposal (a couple of times I didn't vote). So this time it turned against me. So what?

Letila is also a member of the region known as Anarchy. Their World Factbook reads as follows:
The region of Anarchy is open to all, but is the home to many nations founded on the principles of Anarchy. As such, we deny all authority, reject class structure, and embrace personal freedom and equality for each citizen of every nation.
Despite this declaration of "den[ial of] all authority", there are nonetheless at least 35 UN Member states endorsing the current UN Regional Delegate from the Anarchy Region. We are at a loss how a region that decries any sort of government nonetheless welcomes the UN into their national affairs.

The current delegates sends endorsements to almost all nations. And I don't think it opposes our principles.

I'm an anarchist, I'm also part of the region called Anarchy and I'm a member of the UN. When I joined I thought that we could impose changes on other nations.
Under what definition of Anarchy or Anarchism is it possible to "impose changes on other[s]"? I thought that the whole idea was rational people could arrive at reasonable consensus? "Imposing changes" flies in the face of everything I've ever read about anarchists and anarchism.

And I still contend that Anarchists have totally subverted the word Anarchy. Anarchy is a total absence of government, Anarchism is most certainly a method of government. Yes, I know, you've duked it out already in General (The Anarchist Thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71742). Real anarchism (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108022)), so no point starting another topic about it here.

True anarchists would not join the UN and subject themselves to laws passed by non-anarchists.

You have a good point. The UN isn't the best way to further anarchism.

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No Mods, No Masters!
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

I find the debate over whether an anarchist government should be in the un in the first place rather amusing.

As I see it, there are two defendable theoretical points to be made along these lines:

First, the ooc point, the entire game of nationstates is, by its very name, rather antithetical to an anarchist organization. and, i actually have several friends who take delight in pointing this out to me. the game is one individual creating a "nation" and controlling it through his choices. nations and single individuals making the ultimate decisions hardly seems compatible with anarchism. But, nationstates is fun. and it is fun to see what you can do with your little "nations" and to that end it is fun to play the game. being in the un is part of the game, and that, too, is fun. especially if one enjoys debate.

The second defense of an anarchist state in the united nations is a much more tenuous one. Anarchy, at its base root, does not mean chaos, it does not mean no accountability. Anarchy is, in fact, the exact opposite, at its most fundamental level it simply refers to every individual being responsible for looking out for their own interests. Anarchism, therefore, does not disallow large groups of people forming up to cooperate and better achieve their own interests. Since this is entirely a simulation, it is perfectly reasonable to imagine that all of the good little anarchists in your state first decide that it is in their best interests to band together into whatever state you've got em in and second that it is a good idea to join the un.
obviously, a tenuous argument, but once more, this is a game. and a rather simple one at that, so it is reasonable. just as it is reasonable to bulldoze your rainforests to sell nuclear weapons to NUKES4U.

You have a good point. The UN isn't the best way to further anarchism.
That's all I was waiting to hear.

I find the debate over whether an anarchist government should be in the un in the first place rather amusing.
Me too. I never would have brought it up but for the strident ranting of the neo-anarchists here. Sometimes you need to point at a bit of silliness to make a serious point.

it is perfectly reasonable to imagine that all of the good little anarchists in your state first decide that it is in their best interests to band together
When that happens on a scale larger than can fit in a rather small auditorium, I shall dance the little gleeful dance of amusement. :wink:

Is awaiting Frisbeeteria's little gleeful dance of amusement! :lol: