NationStates Jolt Archive

ZERO Virus Tolerance
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights Strength: Significant Proposed by: Colodia
Description: I propose that all nations show absolute ZERO tolerance for viruses, spyware, hackers and all other types of programs that get into people's computers and do unwanted things without permission (exception of cookies)

I don't mean showing zero tolerance to the viruses themselves...(geez...) I'm talking about showing no tolerance for the programmers themselves.

Viruses, Spyware, etc. do many unwanted things. Including giving away PERSONAL information, shutting off your computer automatically, disrupting internet use, and using victim's computers as a host to send themselves to others.

The only one's who are allowed to hack, send viruses, etc. will be the police and the military.

Nations will trackdown programmers themselves, which will be a tough job. But nations that do take down their own criminals will be able to do whatever type of punishment they like on the criminal.

However, if the programmer is found by International means, then the criminal will be sent to 5-20 years in prison.

I say we've suffered with our Anti-Virus programs and Firewall things long enough! Let's download programs freely without worry if we have to reformat our hardrives!

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That's my proposal...conviently located on page 20 currently!

So what do you all think? Comments are appreciated, and of course...I'd also like criticism

3$^$#%@Q bump...

The Rogue Nation of Greenspoint agrees in principle with this proposal, however, we feel it is an issue that should be handled by the individual nations, and not the United Nations as a whole.

We cannot support this proposal.

James Moehlman
Assistant Manager in charge of U.N. Affairs
Greenspoint

some nations are unable to keep up with the high-tech 21st century world we live in, in order to take these people themselves. Citizens of those nations that have to deal with this should not suffer

Any nation with a technology level that would be endangered by computer virusus, hackers, spyware, trojans and such has the technology to combat it.

It's the same as passing a law banning faulty mufflers on autos, then saying the U.N. has to do it for certain nations since they don't have autos.

James Moehlman
Assistant Manager in charge of U.N. Affairs
Greenspoint

You want the police and military in charge of creating and sending viruses? Are you going to pass another law that requires hairdressers to do all aircraft maintenance? Bartenders are required to design skyscrapers?

Why not let technical people come up with technical solutions? Let the corporations who make money selling the operating systems come up with ways to protect those same systems. Keep the politicians and lawyers on the sidelines, taking bribes and drinking like they're supposed to.

If this weren't such a silly proposal with absolutely zero chance of being approved, I'd spend a few moments tearing it apart. But I'm a nice guy, so I won't.
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You want the police and military in charge of creating and sending viruses? Are you going to pass another law that requires hairdressers to do all aircraft maintenance? Bartenders are required to design skyscrapers?

Why not let technical people come up with technical solutions? Let the corporations who make money selling the operating systems come up with ways to protect those same systems. Keep the politicians and lawyers on the sidelines, taking bribes and drinking like they're supposed to.

If this weren't such a silly proposal with absolutely zero chance of being approved, I'd spend a few moments tearing it apart. But I'm a nice guy, so I won't.
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you got it all wrong...when the police are meant to send virus and hack into computers, they do it for evidence of a crime

you got it all wrong...when the police are meant to send virus and hack into computers, they do it for evidence of a crime
Uh huh. I see. And you're basing this on ... what, exactly? Are the police and military suddenly instant technical geniuses? It's not true now, so what makes you think passing a law will make it so?

I'm sure there are some skilled soldiers and policement who do a wonderful job with computers, but the majority of police and military training is for other things. Train a Technician Corps if you want, but include that in the proposal - and find a way to pay for it. You can't just wave a wand and make it happen. That's what I see ClarkKent saying.

This proposal needs to be severely edited before it's ready to be approved. Let's see if Colodia is willing to listen seriously to suggestions.

you got it all wrong...when the police are meant to send virus and hack into computers, they do it for evidence of a crime
Uh huh. I see. And you're basing this on ... what, exactly? Are the police and military suddenly instant technical geniuses? It's not true now, so what makes you think passing a law will make it so?

I'm sure there are some skilled soldiers and policement who do a wonderful job with computers, but the majority of police and military training is for other things. Train a Technician Corps if you want, but include that in the proposal - and find a way to pay for it. You can't just wave a wand and make it happen. That's what I see ClarkKent saying.

This proposal needs to be severely edited before it's ready to be approved. Let's see if Colodia is willing to listen seriously to suggestions.

I don't actually mean that I expect a fat donut eating cop to walk up to a computer and miraculiously hack suspected criminals. The police can also be the FBI! Thought of that? :wink:

But yes...I'm noting the errors in the clarification of my proposal and I'm keeping a mental note of them

In few years, www traffic will stop. The cause is virus, spam, and other basic things that are managet and created by hackers and crackers. :evil:

So if we want to use www in the future we need to do something.

Some of you said that military and police aren´t well enough educated or good enought to do this... you are so wrong, in some countryes military and police have worked and hired a lot of people who know this busines.


To my land I will copy somethin from a real world:

Police and Military forces will have more budjet to start a special unit in computer crimes. Funding via; university, corporations and of cource coverment

And one thing, in the future not so far away, most damage in war will be made by 0 and 1´s.

Seems like a good proposal to me, and the police deal with computers a lot, hey don't just eat donuts 8)

I concur that this subject be re-evaluated and re-posted. It's current wording is vague and needs clarification as to the actual costs and requirements of each nation to put into effect.

To what degree does a software application deem 'spyware'? By the current wording, many internet games that send information from the users computer would be inforced as illegal by some countries.

Regarding the fact that they admitted to a user agreement saying that they aknowledge and agree to the fact that this information would be transferred from one's computer, I have a feeling some amoral and cunning programmers may imbed spyware inside games or other applications whereby the end user agrees to the liscencing agreement (who really reads those things anyways?).

Hence, the proposal should be clarified, re-written and re-submitted with the defintion of 'virus' 'spyware' or any other such measures.

In new Eriu, our laws state that any software that by it's nature causes physical damage, a loss of data, or a loss of regular networking services to a significant amount of computers as a result of it's intended use is considered a 'virus' and the company or individual programming such be fined or put in jail.

The reasoning behind this is that some software companies release products that inadvertantly cause damage to certain OS settings unintentionally. Hence, we have to ensure that we emphasize the word significant in our wording so as to avoid uneccasary lawsuit against legitimate software companies.

thanks everyone for helping me make this proposal...a new one will be up in a few days

thanks everyone for helping me make this proposal...a new one will be up in a few days


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a new topic should be up and out with the new resolution...please go there and tell me what needs to be worked on before it is submitted