NationStates Jolt Archive


The UN is Overstepping its bounds

Georghiou
14-01-2004, 00:46
Although I have legalized euthanasia in my own country, the Free Land of Georghiou, I must respectfully vote against this UN proposal. The UN has no legal authority to legalize euthanasia. In fact, euthanasia is not even banned internationally. There is no international institution which can ban or legalize euthanasia.

The UN was not setup to boss people around. It was setup as a way to promote peace, prosperity, and freedom. It is not a moral institution. It cannot legislate morals. It is not even a government. The UN is a way for people to peacefully resolve conflicts, and speedily fix hunger and civil rights abuses. Euthanasia is not a civil right. It is an individual moral and an individual choice. Let individual nations decide whether or not to legalize euthanasia. And let the UN respect the sovereignty of nations!

Some people believe that no individual has the right to kill anyone, not even himself. I believe that nations have the right to be conservative. They have the right to be traditional. And they even have the right to be religious. They have these rights even if I disagree with them.

I believe that each individual should decide when their life should end. However, I will fight for the right for people to disagree with me. I do not believe in tyranny through democracy.

Some people, like myself, view euthanasia as suicide. Others view euthanasia as murder. It makes no difference that the person who is being murdered is the person who is carrying out the murder. I respect people's ability to make that decision. Moreover, I respect each individual nation to be able to make that moral judgement. I do not need to be the moral police of the world.

Currently, euthanasia is already legal. There is no law banning Euthanasia. Therefore it is legal. By passing this proposal, the UN does absolutely nothing in reality. It simply reaffirms something that was already true. But by doing so, it trample's on our own sovereignty, the right of individual nations to decide their own future. This is not only a tremendous violation with this one issue, but it sets a precedent that could be followed by even more violations.

Please, I urge all of you to reconsider. The UN does not need to legalize something that is already legal. In doing so, it is erasing our national and regional sovereignty. A possible alternative is to let each region come up with their own euthanasia laws, thereby letting people who disagree leave and join another region.
14-01-2004, 01:08
Agreed
Free Market Land
14-01-2004, 01:22
As a matter of fact, it is striking how closely the UN in this game resembles the UN of the real world. Constantly working to erode liberty in freedom-loving countries, pushing for a world government, these are goals of the United Nations that are so terribly destroying our freedoms.

Therefore, this is a motto of our nation: "Hey UN: We put you into this world, and we can take you out. (USA)"
14-01-2004, 01:30
Agreed the UN is overstepping their bounds and taking options out of free people's hands. Euthenasia is a national not international concern!!!
14-01-2004, 02:22
As you said, one of the objectives of the U.N. is to promote freedom. In this case, it's promoting the freedom to die as you see fit, which (it is felt) overrides the right of conservatives to be pricks.

You cut a hole for yourself in your argument.
Valinon
14-01-2004, 02:46
The United Nations of NationStates has stepped far across the line of national sovereignity. The UN, even in this game, does not have the rights to decree laws to member states of how to manage their internal affairs. In fact, this position was reinforced by several UN resolutions that were passed earlier (September, October if I recall). Therefore this resolution is in direct violation of a proceeding United Nations' resolution and should be discarded immediately.
Seeing as how that is not being done, the United Star Empire of Valinon in its capacity as a regional delegate, throws its support in with those in opposition of this ludicrious waste of server space. We encourage all UN members who value their nations' right to govern themselves to vote against this resolution.
Georghiou
14-01-2004, 02:46
Sorry, my friend, but I did not leave a hole in my argument. The UN is concerned with nations, not individuals. And as such, the freedom I am referring to is the freedom of nations to decide for themselves free of other nations, regions, or overbearing ineffectual international organizations. The UN has no place in the internal politics of other nations. By passing this proposal, the UN is trampling over the freedom of nations.

which (it is felt) overrides the right of conservatives to be pricks.


This is exactly the type of close-minded tyranny of democracy I am talking about. People who disagree with euthanasia aren't disagreeing with you, they're being pricks!
14-01-2004, 02:47
Agreed
14-01-2004, 02:54
I agree completely. In fact I have started a board regarding the idea of a repeal proposal in the unfortunate circumstance that this should be passed. I would appreciate you (and anyone else) coming to review my proposal (particularly to see if it has any loopholes as glaring as the ones found in the current one :roll: ).

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=114908

Let us stand firm together in our support of national sovereignty; I refuse to let the UN become a one world government.