NationStates Jolt Archive

Proposal on War, Peace, and Disarmament

The Planetian Empire
10-01-2004, 06:41
And now, for a mild proposal about disarmament. After all, is peace not one of the central goals of the U.N.? And, being mild, this proposal will not cause as much of an angry backlash as many others! It is surely a good first step to take... well, not first step... first step in the recent past as far as proposals directly concerning military agression go.
War and Peace and Disarmament
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.

Category: Global Disarmament Strength: Mild Proposed by: The Planetian Empire
Description: The United Nations,

Deeply concerned, with the prevalence of open warfare as a method of conflict resolution between NationStates,

Fully aware, of the dangers that war, especially involving presently available weapons, poses to all the citizens of the world,

1. Strongly condemns, all agressor governments;

2. Strongly urges, all nations to turn to non-violent means of dispute resolution, including peaceful negotiation using the multilateral environment of the forums and bilateral telegram contact.

Office of the Prime Minister
10-01-2004, 07:14
Thank you. That's what the real UN does. I was truly surprised that this resolution didn't say, "You wil get rid of all ur weaponz! It wont make you ez for nonUN members to invade!!!11"
10-01-2004, 07:40
Yeah no war! Yeah no RP! Yeah no Fun!

Are you nuts? There is no way to make world peace ever. Human instinct drives us to kill. There is no way to stop it. Instead of trying to subdue it, just try to avoid it if you don't like it.
10-01-2004, 08:50
We might actually support this.

(OOC: Sorry but it won't pass because the majority of the people here are blood-thirsty, angsty kids using war as a means to take the edge off their growing pains.)
10-01-2004, 10:08
This resolution is well written and to the point. We have approved this resolution and vote for it if it reaches the floor.
10-01-2004, 10:45
It should be difficult for all but the most hardened aggressors to refuse support.

May we suggest encouraging mediation and arbitration of disputes?

There need be no tax burden involved; arbitrators would be chosen from a strike-off list by the parties, who would pay directly for their services.
10-01-2004, 11:40
It should be difficult for all but the most hardened aggressors to refuse support.

May we suggest encouraging mediation and arbitration of disputes?

There need be no tax burden involved; arbitrators would be chosen from a strike-off list by the parties, who would pay directly for their services.

Yes indeed, an International Court of Justice. That would be a great idea.
Catholic Europe
10-01-2004, 12:00
Catholic Europe does support this proposal but it is very mild, IMO, to say the least. However a small step is better than no step at all.
10-01-2004, 15:29
so we politely aggree to be gentlepersons and go back to beating
each other over the head.

isn't that what everybody already does now?

some of us would actualy rather boil steam and build water wheels
then be constatly annoyed by the inanity of some idiot wanting everyone
to go arround beating each other over the head because the're too
lame to seek amusement in creative gratification.

where's the teeth? the motivation, the incentive to make this
anything other then pretense and window dressing?

as for 'human nature' give me a break. if it were our nature to
want to beat each other over the head all the time our species would
not deserve to survive.

the only nature intrinsic to our species is gullability;
the only nature intrinsic to sentience the desire to express ourselves creatively.

10-01-2004, 15:46
No we don't support this proposal. There is no plausable way of disarming all world armies. The fact of the matter is even if you succceded there would just start anther race to create a superpower because that is human nature. The fact of the matter reducing spending to zilch on mitiary spending is not going to happen, there are always going to be rogue bodies out there who will get their hands on weponary of some kind. Then ther would just be extensive bloodshed and turmoil.
10-01-2004, 16:37
If all UN nations disarm then all Nations not in the UN will have an easy time at destorying UN nations and thus the UN would fail.
The Planetian Empire
10-01-2004, 20:54
This proposal is less about disarming everyone and more about encouraging countries to use diplomacy to resolve conflicts. That's why it is a "mild" proposal in the category of disarmament; presumably, if you support it and agree to look at negotiation as a means of resolving disuputes, you would likely cut back on defense spending a little so that your government doesn't appear entirely hypocritical.

As to mediation, that's a good idea, except that proposing something like the ICJ in NationStates comes dangerously close to changing how the game works, and thus would not be a good thing to post. However, RPing an International Court of Justice by, say, starting a new thread in the UN forum and asking for a sticky might be feasable. It is not, however, the sort of thing one would put into a proposal either.

As to the joys of RolePlaying war... yes... well, we're RPing peace with this resolution. Who says you can't RP peace? In fact, wouldn't RPing heated diplomacy between governments on the brink of war be sort of interesting too? It could even make for BETTER RolePlaying. War RPs typically either degenerate into posting random troop numbers or, when they get good, involve a lot of discussion and intrigue between the NationStates involved, which is what RPing diplomatic negotiations would be all about anyway -- only more so. And random-number-generating war could be a last resort, implemented after most or the RPing has already been done in failed negotiation, and lasting only briefly until peace is called for and the two sides sit down at the negotiating table again to discuss terms of surrender.
The Planetian Empire
11-01-2004, 19:51
Bump for peace.