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In it's current state, copyright law varies from country to country. It makes free trade more difficult, as the laws differ from nation to nation. As a representative of the Dominion of Anward, I realize my nation needs foreign trade to boost our economy. If we made a copyright/patent law that would apply to all countries there would be no 'gray area' and this would hopefully stimulate interest for countries to be more willing to trade between the nations of the United Nations. My proposal asks the following to be implemented:

1. Copyright/Patent Law be the same between all UN members.

2. Copyright/Patent organizations be modified to accommodate the number of requests for copyright. This should be done by establishing a new International Copyright Organization, with chapters in every capital. This agency would receive other chapters' copyrights, and send copyrights established in that country to all other chapters. With the Internet Age, this is a simple process.

3. With many different languages, a sub-agency should be established to correctly translate the copyright/patents, into each chapters native language.

4. An additional sub-agency be created to be informed of, and monitor all copyright/patent infringements. Reducing the need for the government to take the time to investigate the actions. A recommended course of action will then be reported, and a court of the nation of the offender make the ruling.


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I have wholeheartedly agreed to this proposal, and have approved it. Not only that, the telegram I racieved to ask my approval was very polite and well written, and I thank you for that.

This proposal is basically going to spend a lot of money doing nothing.

Not at all it would stimulate the economy of all the nations of the UN who wish to trade. This allows for easier trade between nations.

We believe copyrights hinder not help free trade. It restricts other firms from researching and improving already made products. If companies wish to protect their products so much, it is up to them to safeguard their secrets. If a government subsidizes a firm in anyway, that firm has no rights to patents or copyrights.

We will not approve this resolution and will vote against it if it reaches the floor. On the last day if it looks like it is going to pass, we will resign from the UN.

We think copyrights encourage invention and creativity, which benefit everyone.

We do not need patents or copyrights. Look at the coke a cola company. They never told people the secert reciep because a patent only lasts for 20 years and then other people would be able to copy it. Plus copyrights are stupid because they limit free trade because they will expand to include plagerism which will require people to cite every word they use. This will led to caos and frustration.

I have to agree with nuclearweapons reasons to not support this.

Copyrights and Patents help support the creator. It not only help encourages people to become inventer, with the hope of suceeding and making millions, but it helps protect the inventer, and the nation of the inventer to the idea. This is in the interest of loosening Free Trade regulations, if the copyright and patent law is the same in every country there will be little confusion, and the country can import/export without having to worry about the copyright patent laws of the other country, because they will be the same.

If anyone else has any questions, I can answer them.

We think copyrights encourage invention and creativity, which benefit everyone.

Catholic Europe agrees with this.

Updated with the number of current approvals. Thanks to those who have already voted.

I would hope for more of a debate. If any of you feel something is wrong with this proposal, or maybe just feel like commenting on it, please post.

We believe copyrights hinder not help free trade. It restricts other firms from researching and improving already made products. If companies wish to protect their products so much, it is up to them to safeguard their secrets. If a government subsidizes a firm in anyway, that firm has no rights to patents or copyrights.

We will not approve this resolution and will vote against it if it reaches the floor. On the last day if it looks like it is going to pass, we will resign from the UN.

You obviously do not understand copyright law.

In the instance that any invention is used widely enough, it is made an open patent, so that anyone can make it. For example, the sticky note is now manufactured by many companies, while it was originally patented by a single man. At this point in time, anyone who felt like improving it could do so at their leisure. (if they could think of a way to modify the sticky note. 0.o)

While we support this resolution, we would like to see a provision made by which all patents run out upon the death of their authors.

EDIT: I meant ot post as The Global Market.

Well while I support your idea The Global Market, but I am not sure how I could update this now.

Copyrights benefit capitalism, therefore we of Letila oppose them.

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"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
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I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Copyrights benefit capitalism, therefore we of Letila oppose them.

Copyrights establish that you have a right to the products of your own mind. Without them, you are virtually a slave to others.

Copyrights benefit captilists and anrachists. Everyone can use money, from the smal countires to the big, to big companies to the lone inventor. Everyone wants to protect their idea from being stolen not matter where they are, the royalties that come with the invention doesn't hurt either.

Copyrights establish that you have a right to the products of your own mind. Without them, you are virtually a slave to others.

They're a way to put money in your pocket like everything else you support.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Copyrights establish that you have a right to the products of your own mind. Without them, you are virtually a slave to others.

They're a way to put money in your pocket like everything else you support.

So? If you have the right to your own mind, why do you not have hte right to profit from it?

Everyone has to have money. period. Now if you wish to support this proposal, you may then make your own laws to make sure that everyone who invents something is paid the same ammount. If you wish to do so.

Why is everything profit to you?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Why is everything profit to you?

It isn't. But if someone owns something (like his mind), he must logically have the right to profit from it.

Otherwise, you are saying that the state owns an individual's mind. Can anybody say 'despotism'?

Otherwise, you are saying that the state owns an individual's mind. Can anybody say 'despotism'?

I don't support the state, though.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Otherwise, you are saying that the state owns an individual's mind. Can anybody say 'despotism'?

I don't support the state, though.

So then other people control your mind. That's hardly any better. In fact, it might even be worse, since the state is [theoretically] bound by laws.

So then other people control your mind. That's hardly any better. In fact, it might even be worse, since the state is [theoretically] bound by laws.

But don't I also own their minds as well? Besides, why are the products of the mind and the mind itself the same?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

So then other people control your mind. That's hardly any better. In fact, it might even be worse, since the state is [theoretically] bound by laws.

But don't I also own their minds as well?

So you seek a society where everyone is a slave? Good job.

Besides, why are the products of the mind and the mind itself the same?

Because if you own something, you can use it in any way you want (that doesn't infringe on the rights of others to do the same). That's the definition of common law and its been that way since the rise of civilization. Thus, you can use your mind in any way you want, including creating something. You then have the right to that creation.

So then other people control your mind. That's hardly any better. In fact, it might even be worse, since the state is [theoretically] bound by laws.

But don't I also own their minds as well?

So you seek a society where everyone is a slave? Good job.

Besides, why are the products of the mind and the mind itself the same?

Because if you own something, you can use it in any way you want (that doesn't infringe on the rights of others to do the same). That's the definition of common law and its been that way since the rise of civilization. Thus, you can use your mind in any way you want, including creating something. You then have the right to that creation.

So then other people control your mind. That's hardly any better. In fact, it might even be worse, since the state is [theoretically] bound by laws.

But don't I also own their minds as well?

So you seek a society where everyone is a slave? Good job.

Besides, why are the products of the mind and the mind itself the same?

Because if you own something, you can use it in any way you want (that doesn't infringe on the rights of others to do the same). That's the definition of common law and its been that way since the rise of civilization. Thus, you can use your mind in any way you want, including creating something. You then have the right to that creation.

So you seek a society where everyone is a slave? Good job.

How can everyone be a slave if there is no master?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

So you seek a society where everyone is a slave? Good job.

How can everyone be a slave if there is no master?

Everyone is a slave, the collective will is the master.

You see, people are individuals. When anything, majority or not, makes an individual do something against his will, the individual is enslaved.

Everyone is a slave, the collective will is the master.

How does it fore them to do anything? It's composed of what they want.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Everyone is a slave, the collective will is the master.

How does it fore them to do anything? It's composed of what they want.

No. It's composed of what the majority want.

And capitalism is about what the rich minority wants.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

And capitalism is about what the rich minority wants.

No, in capitalism each individual produces or buys what HE, as an individual, wants.

No, in capitalism each individual produces or buys what HE, as an individual, wants.

A lot of people are quite limited in what they can do. They can only do what will provide them enough money to live.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

No, in capitalism each individual produces or buys what HE, as an individual, wants.

A lot of people are quite limited in what they can do. They can only do what will provide them enough money to live.

THen he should either produce more wealth or incorporate with others who do and buy the thing cooperatively.

Either way, my point stands -- in capitalism, the individual is only under compulsion to serve himself.

THen he should either produce more wealth or incorporate with others who do and buy the thing cooperatively.

If only it were that simple, but it's not. Many people struggle to stay alive. What right do superrich people have to not contribute anything to society?

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

THen he should either produce more wealth or incorporate with others who do and buy the thing cooperatively.

If only it were that simple, but it's not. Many people struggle to stay alive. What right do superrich people have to not contribute anything to society?

It's their choice whether they should contribute or not.

Either they produced what they have or somebody willingly gave it to them. Either way they have the right to dispose of it as they please. Any other system is tantamount to slavery.

THen he should either produce more wealth or incorporate with others who do and buy the thing cooperatively.

If only it were that simple, but it's not. Many people struggle to stay alive. What right do superrich people have to not contribute anything to society?

It's their choice whether they should contribute or not.

Either they produced what they have or somebody willingly gave it to them. Either way they have the right to dispose of it as they please. Any other system is tantamount to slavery.

What about systems with no surplus goods? And according to your statement, isn't taxation robbery?

I say that property is theft.

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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.

Letila I have to agree with The Global Market on this issue. You seem to be inventing issues just to continue agruing, but thank you for bringing up issues and concerns about this proposal.

Last day of voting!

We need just 5 more votes!

THen he should either produce more wealth or incorporate with others who do and buy the thing cooperatively.

If only it were that simple, but it's not. Many people struggle to stay alive. What right do superrich people have to not contribute anything to society?

It's their choice whether they should contribute or not.

Either they produced what they have or somebody willingly gave it to them. Either way they have the right to dispose of it as they please. Any other system is tantamount to slavery.

What about systems with no surplus goods? And according to your statement, isn't taxation robbery?

Taxation is robbery, forcing people to work for the good of others is slavery.

Also I don't see what surplus good have to do with it.

Come on 2 more votes!

We are stuck on needing just 1 more vote! Please vote now if you haven't. Thanks again to all those who have supported this proposal, and I hope you will do so again when it is up in front of the whole UN.

Congrats, I hope it passes as a resolution. Better than that Euthanasia thing.