Environmental Proposal - Doesn't hurt business...possible?
The Zoogie People
10-01-2004, 00:15
Is it possible to have a proposal that preserves the environment, yet does not do so at the expense of industry? This is what I'm thinking, doesn't improve industry all that much, but perhaps. It might work.
Environmental Preservation
As industry expands more and more, the environment is hurting. As we construct our factories, build our planes, the nature around is slowly deteriorating. This simply can not continue.
You've heard people constantly talk about the myths. About how our environment isn't dying. About how the environmentalists lie. About how, in fact, the ozone won't evaporate in 70 years and we do have enough oil.
Is there any compassion in this? The message this gives us, is, go ahead, run wild with your industry, destroy the environment, we'll survive it. Do we not care about the environment that we arose from? Do we mercilessly destroy that which gave to our rise?
Of course not. Each nation, however one may describe them, still has nature left. There are still environments thriving, somewhere, in this region, waiting to be demolished. What we need are environmental preserves.
We need a good amount of each nation's natural environments to be set aside in national parks, wildlife exhibits, et cetera. Nature is inherently beautiful, no matter what form. We need people to realize this.
As national parks open in many countries, people will go to them. A new industry will be created; one that is friendly with the environment. And visitors to these preserves will learn about them, and learn to appreciate our environment.
Our citizens have a right to enjoy these treasures. We are obligated to give them a chance to view these wonderful spectacles.
At the same time, for those of you who care for naught but money, tourists will bring in more income. It is a win for both sides. Not all environmental preservation has to affect industry. That, is up to each individual nation; but this is an obligation of the UN.
I don't know...would it work?
Who cares about industry? It deserves to die for all the poverty and environmental damage it's caused.
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The Zoogie People
10-01-2004, 03:02
I don't think it would make a lot of people happy if the UN had a resolution imploding their economies :) We can eliminate industry on our own initiative, but that is not feasible for the UN.
It might work, but still at the expense of industry. No park could enerate as much revenue as a business there. I am very strung out on this issue, because I am very pro Industry, but at the same time I wish the environment did not have to suffer so much. What would work better, woulod be creating a UN funded program that would work on new fuels etc. and then they would release these to the industries, and replace the old fossil fuels and gasoline, which help destroy the environment.
Business exists to benefit itself. Who cares if it dies?
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"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
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Marineris Colonies
10-01-2004, 05:48
Business exists to benefit itself. Who cares if it dies?
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[size=9]Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.[/size
Well, since it puts clothes on my back, food in my mouth, a roof over my head and pays insurance for my doctor, I care. Why people think they will solve poverty by eliminating the generation of wealth, I don't understand. The solution is to eliminate the *government* that keeps people poor.
government is power. if had a good gov't, you can solve all problems. :twisted:
Business exists to benefit itself. Who cares if it dies?
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[size=9]Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.[/size
Well, since it puts clothes on my back, food in my mouth, a roof over my head and pays insurance for my doctor, I care. Why people think they will solve poverty by eliminating the generation of wealth, I don't understand. The solution is to eliminate the *government* that keeps people poor.
Woo! So right. People that do their best and suceed deserve the money they get. Why when you do good, should you be punished by giving it to someone who did nada?!
First of all, I am ignoring Letila's post because he is simply trying to bait people like me into an argument which I don't need, nor have time for. Secondly, just like the weak should not rule the strong, so too should nature not rule man. We rule nature and can use it for our own devices. To quote the highly intelligent writers' of the Simpsons (who are Harvard Grads, so don't say Homer isn't a viable source to quote), "Did we lose a war? That's not America! That's not even Mexico!" All kidding aside, buisness and industry takes supremecy over nature, and, so long as we can still survive, we should feel free to harm it as much as necessary. Also, I have heard that in about ten years alcohol could be used as a viable, quasi-renewable source of fuel. Hopefully that is accurate. And Nick, don't be a pansy, stick with the right! Never stray too far towards the environmentalists, they will only corrupt and crush your spirit. For that is their goal! They wish to subserviate the human spirit, nay the human mind, to the whims of a few trees! Why should the sentient be ruled by the leafy? For too long have trees rooted us to the ground, barring us from progress! It is time to end this tyranny! Death to the trees! ... maybe I took that a tad far.
Its possible though difficult. It can work, whether or not it will is another issue.
The Zoogie People
12-01-2004, 14:03
Hm. Thanks guys...let's see if I can't get any more support for this..
When an environmental proposal is created, its creator has a choice of industries which will be effected by the proposal. He or she can either choose automobile manufacturing, uranium mining, woodchipping, or all industries, but he or she is unable to choose no industries. The entire effect of the proposal is the harming the selected industry and the improvement of the environment. Thus, your proposal will harm some kind of industry.
The Zoogie People
12-01-2004, 22:53
When an environmental proposal is created, its creator has a choice of industries which will be effected by the proposal. He or she can either choose automobile manufacturing, uranium mining, woodchipping, or all industries, but he or she is unable to choose no industries. The entire effect of the proposal is the harming the selected industry and the improvement of the environment. Thus, your proposal will harm some kind of industry.
Damn. Can it affect industry positively? Like...I don't know...tourist industry, if there is one.
The Zoogie People
12-01-2004, 22:54
When an environmental proposal is created, its creator has a choice of industries which will be effected by the proposal. He or she can either choose automobile manufacturing, uranium mining, woodchipping, or all industries, but he or she is unable to choose no industries. The entire effect of the proposal is the harming the selected industry and the improvement of the environment. Thus, your proposal will harm some kind of industry.
Damn. Can it affect industry positively? Like...I don't know...tourist industry, if there is one.