NationStates Jolt Archive


Legalize Prostitution

06-01-2004, 15:45
My proposal `Legalize Prostitution` is I think worthy to at least read, and I believe that it makes a lot of sense and should be payed attention too. Illegal Prostituition is a big problem in today`s world and should be addressed.

Your views :?:
Goobergunchia
06-01-2004, 15:48
Legalize Prostitution

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Japanese Scotsmen

Description: Prostitution is often called the worlds oldest profession. It is often banned from the worlds nations because of `moral decency`.
But what is more morally decent?

-An environment where HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases are rampant, where 14 year old girls can sell their bodies for money, and women are constantly taken advantage of by their customers?

-A well run, clean, legal brothel that checks their prostitutes everyday for sexually transmitted diseases; where the girls must be over 18 or 21 (depending on the nation) and where the prostitutes are well protected and cant be abused.

If prostitution were legalized through the UN, there would be no more pimps to take advantage of prostitutes and supply drugs through the prostitute. There would be fair prices to the services of a prostitute and as well fair wages to the prostitute.

If prostitution is legalized in the UN, Legal Brothels will either be state-funded or privately owned (depending on the nation) but the government must make sure that the brothels are run legally and efficiently.

Think of moral decency and think of the economic revenue this resolution will supply to UN nations.

Approvals: 14 (Japanese Scotsmen, Painful intrusion, Jontes, Anthonycha, El Yakistan, New Ithilien, Latte Lovers, Chanchos, West - Europa, Dendarric, Neolithica, Tsyu Tsaere, Gatakia, Area 54)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 123 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Thu Jan 8 2004
06-01-2004, 15:48
I told my region's delegate to endorse it, and he did. Obviously legalizing prostitution solves a lot of problems, I think it's a good idea.
06-01-2004, 15:49
By the way, the proposal is on Page 18.
Alienware
06-01-2004, 16:40
Legallizing prostitution is actually a good idea. Having it illegal makes people just want to do it more.
Naaaaaaaaaavanites
06-01-2004, 16:48
Has my support!
06-01-2004, 16:52
thats right, and if it were legalized the nation`s government could regulate and control prostitution. Not only would it bring in revenue, but more importantly it would make the whole thing much more civilized.

Its not the fact that prostitution is going on, prostitution is there and will always be there legalized or not; but you might as well make good use of it and make it a safe buisness for the customers and the `employees`.

And unlike most proposals I have seen, mine at least is easy to read, understand, and has correct spelling.
06-01-2004, 16:55
Of course - as ruler of my nation I cannay but support this fine suggestion. But I have to raise the question, that if prostitution are indeed aggreed to as legal by the UN and by the worlds nations, should we not then accept all sexual behaviours as legal? I think here on subjects as the one my own very nation are ruled by - A spanking a day, keeps the spirit high - which naturally includes the world of S/m - D/s and the like. If prostitution are to be legalized in the world as we know it, then I demand that those sexual behaviours be legalized too. So my denizens can sleep well at night, knowing that their sexual behavior are fully endorsed by the world.....

King Per

Kingdom of SirUgly1
06-01-2004, 17:04
This is a proposal about legalizing prostitution. If you wish to create a proposal that legalizes masochism (spelling?) try to become delegate of a nation and propose the idea. If you want complete sexual freedom you might as well try to legalize Pedophilia, Necrophilia, Rape, etc... but I doubt i will support you with those proposals.
06-01-2004, 17:54
I think prostitution should be legal in some areas. Limit where it is legal, I think it would help the economy alot. Illegal prostitution is a big problem in cities of the world. I know other countries do have legal prostitution and I think it would be a big way to boost the economy.
Kesgrave
06-01-2004, 18:05
This is a proposal about legalizing prostitution. If you wish to create a proposal that legalizes masochism (spelling?) try to become delegate of a nation and propose the idea. If you want complete sexual freedom you might as well try to legalize Pedophilia, Necrophilia, Rape, etc... but I doubt i will support you with those proposals.


Sexual freedoms should apply to sexual acts between consenting adults. A child is not capable of providing informed consent, nor is a corpse. Rape obviously is an example of a sexual act where one party does not consent. And before any Welshmen mention it, sheep are not capable of consenting! (Joke, honest.)

However, I do think that necrophila should be allowed if a person agrees to have their body used for sexual pleasure before they die, under the circumstances that they have to stipulate before hand. Again, all involved should be capable of providing informed consent.

S&M acts typically involve informed consent with trigger words being said when the rough gets too rough. I see no reason as to why prostitution should not be legalised, and no reason as to why S&M acts should be made illegal.
06-01-2004, 18:32
Let me add onto my previous post:
I believe that you should be 21 years of age or older in order to be a prostitute. I also believe that you should have to go to classes so you can learn of things you should do to protect yourself. I also believe that people who do this should also be drug tested so you are not having people taking advantage of this to support a drug habit like most current prostitutes. Also i'm going to restate what I said before about this helping the economy. What would help the economy better than this because taxes.
Sofa King Country
06-01-2004, 19:08
This is another issue I believe strongly should be decided indivually on the national level. This isn't the kind of thing the UN should be able to mandate.
06-01-2004, 19:33
This was a very well put together resolution proposal. Our nation very much believes people ought to be able to do whatever they want with their bodies. We have approved this proposal and will vote for it if it reaches the floor.

Confederacy of the Isles Region UN Delegate
Hung Tony
_Myopia_
06-01-2004, 19:42
This is another issue I believe strongly should be decided indivually on the national level. This isn't the kind of thing the UN should be able to mandate.

It's the UN's business because it's a fundamental human rights issue - the right to do what you want with your own body.
Melforlo
06-01-2004, 19:54
I agree, this isn't the UN's decision. Admitadely, the UN should work towards human rights. But prostitution has nothing to do with it. It's someones right to put themselves at risk everyday, and get raped everyday? (My opinion, prostitutes get raped as a job.)

legalized prostitution is the way to go in lots of places. It has been legalized and state regulated for 150 years. But at the same time thats melforlo. A lot of countries out there, this is a bad idea for them. Nations should decide this on their own. Instead of writing a UN law, you should write and issue on this, Japanese scotsman.
06-01-2004, 20:04
This is nothing but a foolish perversion of the truth. No matter what there will always be a demand for a 14 year old prostitution and she will be a slave to labor because it will always have a criminal demand because it is a fault of mankind. Most of this supposed prop is based on an extreme sexual perversion. Legal prostitution would destroy the sanctity of Love and Marrage between a man and a woman. I am tired of people trying to support the rights to legalize sexual perversions and force them upon peaceful God loving people! MAKE WHATEVER LAW IN YOUR CORRUPTED SINFILLED COUNTRY AND STOP TRYING TO DESTROY MY PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS BY DESTROYING THE RELIGION THAT THEY LOVE!
06-01-2004, 20:14
You got the support of my corrupt government. Good idea.
06-01-2004, 20:27
United Catholics- So you would rather your nation have uncontrolled prostitution run by scumbags that take advantage of your women and that purposefully hook prostitutes on hard drugs, you would rather keep your sexual-transmitted disease breeding ground that your children could go to to get a quick lay? or that your children can become the quick lay?

PROSTITUTION IS NOT GOING AWAY. You cant just wish it away, there is always going to be a demand for it, so you might as well make it as safe as possible.

And I do believe this is a UN issue because it *may* be someones `right` to put themselves in harms way, but why not make it possible for them to get out of harms way and into the hands of a government that cares. Human rights are more important then religion, because religion is a choice but everyone should be able to live in a good law-abiding way.

Look at the world United Catholics! The sanctity of marriage is already being striped away on several fronts. It should be CHOICE not Religon that is the defining factor of how someone lives, if you want to be Catholic it is your choice and if you dont want to go to a brothel- then dont, but dont try to force others to.
The Global Market
06-01-2004, 21:43
The Global Market
06-01-2004, 21:43
Our government firmly believes that the individual is sovereign over his or her body. We support this proposal with all due haste.
The Global Market
06-01-2004, 21:44
Our government firmly believes that the individual is sovereign over his or her body. We support this proposal with all due haste.
06-01-2004, 21:50
This does not have my support. Prostitution is not a good thing. It spreads STD's, give men and women an easy oppertunity to be unfaithful, demeans those who are involved, is a very dangerous proffesion, and it's not a good life. Many prostitutes are homeless and addicted to drugs, it is not a life that the state should legalize and promote. Sorry, but this proposal stands to endanger peoples lives. I can not ethicly or morally support this proposal.
Neo Tyr
07-01-2004, 03:41
This is a good bill. Nice work. I back it up.
Neo Tyr
07-01-2004, 03:41
This is a good bill. Nice work. I back it up.
Insainica
07-01-2004, 04:02
This does not have my support. Prostitution is not a good thing. It spreads STD's, give men and women an easy oppertunity to be unfaithful, demeans those who are involved, is a very dangerous proffesion, and it's not a good life. Many prostitutes are homeless and addicted to drugs, it is not a life that the state should legalize and promote. Sorry, but this proposal stands to endanger peoples lives. I can not ethicly or morally support this proposal.

You do realize some of these problems are what this proposal is trying to address, putting them in safe, clean brothels and teaching them how to care for STD's and getting rid of the drugs, right?
Letila
07-01-2004, 04:05
We of Letila don't really have prostitution because there is no capitalism and no money. We do support this regulation, though.

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07-01-2004, 07:09
yes this proposal trying to address to worse parts of prostitution and trying to make it a clean, safe enviornment. Homelessness (word?) and drugs are something for the nation to act on, but with safe prostitution comes the decline of Pimps and drugs will become much less prevelent in prostitutes. So will STDs, HIV, and child prostitution.
_Myopia_
07-01-2004, 19:06
Prostitution is not a good thing.

Actually, if legalised and regulated, it is perfectly safe. And it's only "wrong" (I presume) by your moral standards. My moral standards say that giving people the right to control over their own body is right.

It spreads STD's

The whole point is that legalised, it could be regulated to prevent this. Simply using a condom can stop this.

give men and women an easy oppertunity to be unfaithful

So? It's their choice to be unfaithful, and their partner's choice to trust them.

demeans those who are involved

Surely it's their choice to "demean" themselves?

is a very dangerous proffesion

Not if legalised and regulated

and it's not a good life.

Again, their choice.

Many prostitutes are homeless and addicted to drugs

This proposal aims to stop the poor conditions. Prostitutes, not pimps, would get the money earned, so they could probably afford a home.

Sorry, but this proposal stands to endanger peoples lives.

So now that I've disproved all the dangers you mentioned, what threat to life is there left?

I can not ethicly or morally support this proposal.

You cannot ethically endorse the individual's right to control of their own body?
07-01-2004, 21:27
The Kingdom of Schweinfurt does not believe in promoting this degrading lifestyle. I do not support the proposal.
07-01-2004, 21:28
The Kingdom of Schweinfurt does not believe in promoting this degrading lifestyle. I do not support the proposal.
_Myopia_
08-01-2004, 14:05
The Kingdom of Schweinfurt does not believe in promoting this degrading lifestyle. I do not support the proposal.

Can you give me any reason why a human being, of sound mental state and the ability to make adult decisions, should not be allowed to choose to "degrade" themselves, especially since this legislation would ensure a safe environment?
Darlin
08-01-2004, 14:37
We agree. If some poor sad sack or Hugh Grant wants to pay someone to get his jollys on, as long as my government gets "Sales and Use Tax" from the transaction, Im A-OK with this!
Our government firmly believes that the individual is sovereign over his or her body. We support this proposal with all due haste.
08-01-2004, 15:21
again I say, whats more morally right?

-illegalized prostitution- a dangerous underworld asset, mixed with drugs and gangs, and largely spreading STDs and HIV? Where children can become the prostitutes or the customers and the government is spending excess amounts of money to harbor this `crime`.

or- legalized prostitution- a safe, regulated government asset, where the prostitutes are treated fairly, tested for drugs and STDs *daily*, must be over age (customers and prostitutes), and the government picks up the taxes from it. It redirects police efforts to Terrorism, Murder, and other far more important offenses. Come on people, THIS MAKES SENSE AND YOU KNOW IT.
Melforlo
09-01-2004, 05:41
I think that.... can't remember who, but regardless... has a good point. This bill does nothing to protect the most harmed of all by this profession: The children. Legalizing prostitution will not stop the pedophiles from going underground to get what they want. And don't tell me it's a 7 years olds right what to do with their body!
Xhadam
09-01-2004, 07:36
Yes, its a good idea to have legal prostitution. However, I will vote against it should it come a vote as a resolution.

This is something that individual nations should have a say in and the UN should not be forcing this down anybodies throat especially in light of religous views that some hold in regards to prostitution.

If you want it in your own country, legalize it. You are the President, or dictator, or King, or whatever. You have that power. But leave the rest of the world out of it. Let them keep their morals intact.

It has no impact on you what the Holier-than-thou Empire of No-prostitutionstan does with its laws. The UN should be used for international issues, not the mundane internal affairs of sovereign nations.
09-01-2004, 08:05
As long as the cost of medical care and protection does not fall upon the government we could support this.

Because this is a privilege and not a right, it should carry a steep licensing fee.
Onion Pirates
09-01-2004, 08:16
Arr, why be stoppin at settin up brothels, ey?

If'n this be'n a gud idee, let's see if it'll "hold water"! Send the li'l darlin's off ta sea wid us. We'll take ex'lent care on 'em, arrrr!
09-01-2004, 08:56
Obviously you fool you have no ideas about the evil of prostitution. Prostitution will go away when the army and police drive the pimps into the ocean. Our state does not take sexual misconduct very well Japanese Scottsman. My nation of Catholics will never follow this proposal even if we have to die over it. We would rather be Martyrs then the followers of Evil. If you had any idea about mankind its that the more choice people have usually the more evil they will do with it. Mankind is corrupted easily since most of mankind wishes power more then anything else. Japan is a den of demons and is a place where obscene fetishes are common place. I gaurentee that my people would choose martyrdom over following this proposal.
09-01-2004, 09:36
then dont follow it,

but your obviously not listening to me. Why waste power on enforcing anti-prostitution when you could profit and control it. Come on, Im a Catholic but you dont have to take it this far. Resign from the UN if it means that much. Martyring your entire nation is murder, just as many of the `popes` were murders. So were saints, and I do believe several popes actually had mistresses. Please, Japan is the safest, most `respectable` country in the world. PORN IS CENSORED in Japan. If anywhere is a `den of demons` it would be Europe and America. There were more murders in Paris this year then all of Japan. Obscene fetishes, please ive seen much worse in L.A. thats for sh*t sure. You know what i think is obscene? The fact that your people dont have a choice to pick whether they want to live or die.

Dont talk about stuff you have no idea about, and stop letting your faith blind you. Your nation`s people have the right to use their body as their own. If you dont like it, just quit the UN. Then it wont have any side effect on your `morality`
Xhadam
09-01-2004, 10:13
then dont follow it,

but your obviously not listening to me. Why waste power on enforcing anti-prostitution when you could profit and control it. Come on, Im a Catholic but you dont have to take it this far. Resign from the UN if it means that much. Martyring your entire nation is murder, just as many of the `popes` were murders. So were saints, and I do believe several popes actually had mistresses. Please, Japan is the safest, most `respectable` country in the world. PORN IS CENSORED in Japan. If anywhere is a `den of demons` it would be Europe and America. There were more murders in Paris this year then all of Japan. Obscene fetishes, please ive seen much worse in L.A. thats for sh*t sure. You know what i think is obscene? The fact that your people dont have a choice to pick whether they want to live or die.

Dont talk about stuff you have no idea about, and stop letting your faith blind you. Your nation`s people have the right to use their body as their own. If you dont like it, just quit the UN. Then it wont have any side effect on your `morality`

Or better yet, let's stop clogging the UN with this garbage.

This is not an issue worthy of the UN, this is an issue to be handled at a National level at the greatest. Leave the UN for international issues, not internal affairs.
09-01-2004, 11:00
I agree with Xhadam, I can see no overwhelming reason why the UN should make a ruling regarding this subject. Some nations, such as Frugalisia, are well-accustomed to the traditions of the sex trade. But, this freedom would entail quite a shift in some other places. I doubt the law would be enforceable in countries traditionally opposed to prostitution.

If the only reason to pass this law is the interest of human rights, then this law is a mistake. After adoption, those who try to engage in the business of prostitution in anti-prostitution countries will find oppression and danger at every turn. All the law may do is encourage some to face harsh treatment at the hands of unsympathetic authorities.

Sexual traditions are a fundamental building block of a culture. This law is intended to change cultures, not liberate individuals. But, no cultures will change. There is no way to force nations to adopt prostitution as policy. Authorities will find other ways to keep the status quo.

Plus, my nation of Frugalisia benefits a great deal in taxing the sex trade. Tourists come from all over the world to do what they couldn't in their homeland. All leaders should come for a visit. I will personally show you around the red light district.
_Myopia_
09-01-2004, 11:40
Yes, its a good idea to have legal prostitution. However, I will vote against it should it come a vote as a resolution.

This is something that individual nations should have a say in and the UN should not be forcing this down anybodies throat especially in light of religous views that some hold in regards to prostitution.

If you want it in your own country, legalize it. You are the President, or dictator, or King, or whatever. You have that power. But leave the rest of the world out of it. Let them keep their morals intact.

It has no impact on you what the Holier-than-thou Empire of No-prostitutionstan does with its laws. The UN should be used for international issues, not the mundane internal affairs of sovereign nations.

The individual's sovreignty over his or her own body is a fundamental human right, and as such I believe that fundamental rights like this are the business of the UN, at least in NS.
09-01-2004, 11:59
i agree,
and a little kid is a little kid in any nation, so protecting them is paramount. It is much more difficult to child prostitution to flourish if there are specialized brothels that have overage women who happen to look young. Who would risk a prison sentence (--spelling?-- or in some countries death) when they could have the same excitement with an of-age women.

The point is that people are suffering (not just children) and this needs to be addressed. My only mistake with this proposal is that i put it under an economic rather then human rights title. I thought that nations would listen more to money then to civil rights. Illegal Prostitution is a disgusting underworld operation that NEEDS to be put out of buisness. Since prostitution will always be there; it just wont go away, then legalization is the only way (short of mass murder).

This is not about whether countries like it or not, its about the young women getting abused unneccesarily. PERIOD.
_Myopia_
09-01-2004, 12:08
i agree,
and a little kid is a little kid in any nation, so protecting them is paramount. It is much more difficult to child prostitution to flourish if there are specialized brothels that have overage women who happen to look young. Who would risk a prison sentence (--spelling?-- or in some countries death) when they could have the same excitement with an of-age women.

The point is that people are suffering (not just children) and this needs to be addressed. My only mistake with this proposal is that i put it under an economic rather then human rights title. I thought that nations would listen more to money then to civil rights. Illegal Prostitution is a disgusting underworld operation that NEEDS to be put out of buisness. Since prostitution will always be there; it just wont go away, then legalization is the only way (short of mass murder).

This is not about whether countries like it or not, its about the young women getting abused unneccesarily. PERIOD.

The current proposal is either about to expire, or already has, so can you re-submit it under human rights, mention the need for the individual to be sovreign over his/her body, and I will ask my delegate to support it.
Melforlo
09-01-2004, 19:20
Come now Japanese Scotsman. This proposal isn't going to help much! Good luck finding an of age woman (ie. 18) who looks like a 7 year old. Its not the pimps who are the problem. it's the Johns. They have a problem. Help them, and you help the issue. What you have now will just allow pimps even more power. They'll still abuse their women: It's a harsh industry and laws won't change that. Lifestyles come with prostitution; drugs, abuse, etc.
Xhadam
09-01-2004, 19:21
Yes, its a good idea to have legal prostitution. However, I will vote against it should it come a vote as a resolution.

This is something that individual nations should have a say in and the UN should not be forcing this down anybodies throat especially in light of religous views that some hold in regards to prostitution.

If you want it in your own country, legalize it. You are the President, or dictator, or King, or whatever. You have that power. But leave the rest of the world out of it. Let them keep their morals intact.

It has no impact on you what the Holier-than-thou Empire of No-prostitutionstan does with its laws. The UN should be used for international issues, not the mundane internal affairs of sovereign nations.

The individual's sovreignty over his or her own body is a fundamental human right, and as such I believe that fundamental rights like this are the business of the UN, at least in NS.

No, it's not. That is why drug laws exist. That is why prostitution laws exist. People do not have sovereignty over thier own body as a guaranteed right and further I am not even sure if it falls under that category.

Here's a thought, how about instead of adding yet another bad proposal to the enormouse stack of proposals, resubmit it as an issue and not as a UN resolution. If I were to recieve it as an issue I would approve it, as a resolution I would vote against it and encourage others to do the same.
Rakenshi
12-01-2004, 17:20
Come on people, where not talkin about the current prostitution which most people would think undecent :twisted: The truth is that we are talkin about a new type of prostitution, one where the women wont be raped, and where they will be checked for STD and other dangerous diseases. Let them sell their bodies if thats the way they want to live, of course, dont let them get raped. Dis is not just prostitution, this is also about freedom, so I say yes to this topic since its their free will to do anything they want
Oppressed Possums
12-01-2004, 22:58
Is this another proposal to make the UN into a brothel?
The Global Market
13-01-2004, 00:50
Is this another proposal to make the UN into a brothel?

Hey! That was my idea! :twisted:
_Myopia_
13-01-2004, 15:25
The individual's sovreignty over his or her own body is a fundamental human right, and as such I believe that fundamental rights like this are the business of the UN, at least in NS.

No, it's not. That is why drug laws exist. That is why prostitution laws exist. People do not have sovereignty over thier own body as a guaranteed right and further I am not even sure if it falls under that category.

Here's a thought, how about instead of adding yet another bad proposal to the enormouse stack of proposals, resubmit it as an issue and not as a UN resolution. If I were to recieve it as an issue I would approve it, as a resolution I would vote against it and encourage others to do the same.

Sovereignty over one's body should be a guaranteed human right granted to all adults. Drug laws should be legalised with an age limit. All laws on sex between consenting adults should be repealed. Any laws still hanging about anywhere against suicide should be repealed. etc....

I'm not going to steal the proposal author's idea and submit it as an issue. I think it should be an international thing, because I think that it's part of a right that should be guaranteed.

Can you give me a good reason why anybody should have the right to tell others what they can and can't put do with their bodies, as long as whatever it is doesn't impact on anyone else's rights?
13-01-2004, 15:32
i think that it's perfectly okay for hot sleazy women to spend all thier time exposing themselves to men who otherwise wouldn't have any pleasures whatsoever.
The Atheists Reality
13-01-2004, 15:49
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Xhadam
13-01-2004, 16:02
The individual's sovreignty over his or her own body is a fundamental human right, and as such I believe that fundamental rights like this are the business of the UN, at least in NS.

No, it's not. That is why drug laws exist. That is why prostitution laws exist. People do not have sovereignty over thier own body as a guaranteed right and further I am not even sure if it falls under that category.

Here's a thought, how about instead of adding yet another bad proposal to the enormouse stack of proposals, resubmit it as an issue and not as a UN resolution. If I were to recieve it as an issue I would approve it, as a resolution I would vote against it and encourage others to do the same.

Sovereignty over one's body should be a guaranteed human right granted to all adults. Drug laws should be legalised with an age limit. All laws on sex between consenting adults should be repealed. Any laws still hanging about anywhere against suicide should be repealed. etc....

I'm not going to steal the proposal author's idea and submit it as an issue. I think it should be an international thing, because I think that it's part of a right that should be guaranteed.

Can you give me a good reason why anybody should have the right to tell others what they can and can't put do with their bodies, as long as whatever it is doesn't impact on anyone else's rights?

STD epidemics? Condoms aren't always effective. At time is could be a risk that is simply to great to take. Religious beliefs of certain nations.

This is good material for an Issue, not a UN reolution.
_Myopia_
13-01-2004, 16:29
The individual's sovreignty over his or her own body is a fundamental human right, and as such I believe that fundamental rights like this are the business of the UN, at least in NS.

No, it's not. That is why drug laws exist. That is why prostitution laws exist. People do not have sovereignty over thier own body as a guaranteed right and further I am not even sure if it falls under that category.

Here's a thought, how about instead of adding yet another bad proposal to the enormouse stack of proposals, resubmit it as an issue and not as a UN resolution. If I were to recieve it as an issue I would approve it, as a resolution I would vote against it and encourage others to do the same.

Sovereignty over one's body should be a guaranteed human right granted to all adults. Drug laws should be legalised with an age limit. All laws on sex between consenting adults should be repealed. Any laws still hanging about anywhere against suicide should be repealed. etc....

I'm not going to steal the proposal author's idea and submit it as an issue. I think it should be an international thing, because I think that it's part of a right that should be guaranteed.

Can you give me a good reason why anybody should have the right to tell others what they can and can't put do with their bodies, as long as whatever it is doesn't impact on anyone else's rights?

STD epidemics? Condoms aren't always effective. At time is could be a risk that is simply to great to take. Religious beliefs of certain nations.

This is good material for an Issue, not a UN reolution.

The odds of something passing through an unsplit condom are 1 in 3 billion. When you follow the instructions on the packet, the odds of no splitting are over 95%. And the proposal says that the women would be checked daily for STDs. So there's no way that they are going to transmit to customers, and if by some freak chance one of the women is infected, it'll be picked up on immediately, and frankly if they knowingly chose to get into the business (remember this proposal would ensure that they did choose and weren't forced by a pimp) that's their problem.

And a basic human right should take precedence over religious beliefs, because religious people can always choose not to exercise their right.
13-01-2004, 16:39
what crack are you guys on??!!
_Myopia_
15-01-2004, 18:00
what crack are you guys on??!!

:?: :?: :?: :?:

Is that supposed to imply that no lucid person could have a liberal idea such as *shockhorror* the concept that you have the right to do what you want with your own body?
16-01-2004, 19:15
I fully support the proposal to legalise prostitution and am shocked that so many oppose this basic human right. when it comes to a dictator to say that, its a sad day for the UN.
Oppressed Possums
17-01-2004, 02:57
So the UN brothel is a no go?

Besides unless you are proposing a brothel in the UN, why is it even an issue? What you do in your country is your business. If you want prostitution in your nation, good for you but you shouldn't be forcing your ideals upon everyone.
Equility
17-01-2004, 03:09
So the UN brothel is a no go?

Besides unless you are proposing a brothel in the UN, why is it even an issue? What you do in your country is your business. If you want prostitution in your nation, good for you but you shouldn't be forcing your ideals upon everyone.

Yes but this could be said of every proposal or resulation, when the majority agrees you would have to accept it or leave the UN.
17-01-2004, 03:16
the world really would be a happier place if prostitution were legal... :wink:
Terra Alliance
17-01-2004, 03:24
I propose we change the name of the international organization currently known as the "United Nations" to "the group of crazy leftist nations who all want their nations cities to be like Amsterdam", its more descriptive and correct.
Wyrmsvaar
17-01-2004, 03:40
Yes but this could be said of every proposal or resulation, when the majority agrees you would have to accept it or leave the UN.

BUT this kind of moral issue should still be left up to individual states. The UN is supposed to deal with international problems, NOT moral ones.
Johnistan
17-01-2004, 04:07
If an adult wants to sell herself for money let her. If you are found selling yourself with an STD you should be persecuted regardless of your knowledge of it.
Oppressed Possums
17-01-2004, 05:44
If an adult wants to sell herself for money let her. If you are found selling yourself with an STD you should be persecuted regardless of your knowledge of it.

Women aren't the only prostitutes.
17-01-2004, 05:59
Well said Japanese Scotsman