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Kids need to be spanked in school for their misbehaveing. It will make better people out of them and will make for a crime-free future. PLEASE if u are a UN Delegate please type in "Corpal Punnishment" under purposals and add ur vote. I would greatly apreciate it.

HA HA HA!! I am sooooo evil...damn kids. HE HE HE HE HO HO HA HA :lol:

Wrong board; you'd want to post this over on the United Nations Forum (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=3)

Its moved?

the effectiveness of a punishment has very little to do with its
severity and everything to do with its consistency

(i actualy trust most teachers more then most parents but not to
the point of immagining the judgement of either to be infallable)

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If a teacher spanks a child in school in Hong Kong, he or she may face prison charges.

hmm spanking.....half the lads would get turned on!..however i do feel something like that needs doing

Catholic Europe is totally against any form of violence being used against children. We do not support this.

Actually the secret in punishment is like chess.

The threat is where it is all about. If the piece has to be actually taken, the favorable considition is mainly given up. (well sort of like chess :P)

But what I mean is that if the actual punishment has to be given the system kinda already failed. At that moment damage control to avoid a voilence bloodbath can be better at its place.

With childern especially, if you punish a kid the emotion part of the action is I think the working element, not the hurting part.

Kids need to be spanked in school for their misbehaveing. It will make better people out of them and will make for a crime-free future. PLEASE if u are a UN Delegate please type in "Corpal Punnishment" under purposals and add ur vote. I would greatly apreciate it.

So you believe that teaching children violence at a young age will make them valuable members of society? Teaching them that if wrong is done, mental or physical violence should always ensue? Wow. With that I would say that you fit in right with the sexual offenders and child molesters. Even I dont got so far as to beat children and tell them it is good for them. And it is spelled Corporal Punishment, by the way. And anyways, a law to allow the beating of children would go agaisnt the End Barbaric Torture Act, which passed the last time I checked. My delegate will certainly not vote for your badly worded, ill-thought proposal.

Dictator Corrin
Armed-Republic Of Kel-Moria

I would love to see what some of you guys would be like if you grew up where i live at. Anywayz, that's besides the point, corporal punishment should be left up to the parents and how they want to raise their kids. Oh, and Kel-Moria, there is a complete differense between spanking and beating. I, in no way, condone abuse. As far as corporal punishment in schools, well that's just based on the area in which you live in. Around here it still goes on. I think we should just let nations decide on how they want their kids' misbehavior to be dealt with.

I don't think you should just limit it to children.

I would love to see what some of you guys would be like if you grew up where i live at. Anywayz, that's besides the point, corporal punishment should be left up to the parents and how they want to raise their kids. Oh, and Kel-Moria, there is a complete differense between spanking and beating. I, in no way, condone abuse. As far as corporal punishment in schools, well that's just based on the area in which you live in. Around here it still goes on. I think we should just let nations decide on how they want their kids' misbehavior to be dealt with.

Actually, I wouldnt be too sure that you are worse off that I am. I actually live in The Hood of my area. My parents are both crippled, rather abusive, drunks. Neither of my parents work, and they spend all the money they get on alcohol and cigarrettes anyways. Please explain the difference between teaching a child that violence is a solution to everything from straight up beating. I agree that we should let each nation decide. Therefore, I also believe that a Bill to legalize it would be pointless either way. If it doesnt fall under the Barbaric Punishment act, then it wouldnt have mattered either way. Having a U.N. Bill to pass it would just force it on countries to legalize it.

Dictator Corrin
Armed Republic of Kel-Moria

We of the Logarchy permit corporal punishment in our military class, but not in the class of laborers and artisans. We feel corporal punishment amongst the workers and creators would bring forth unnecessary violence. That said, we are opposed to banning corporal punishment but are lukewarm on proposals allow it to all people. Perhaps we will lay a heavy tax on corporal punishment, with the military exempt.

I don't think you should just limit it to children.

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I support flogging too many rowdy kids...and adults... :twisted:

Are there any sluts here who want to suck my cock and lick my asshole

well, I definetely don't think kids should be beaten or spanked very hard but a little bit of corporal punishment on the right kid can keep him in line.

We think home is the place for discipline.

Teachers are rarely fair or rational about anything; their beatings would turn into persecutiions.

Typically, for instance, a bully is ignored but his victim is punished for "making a disturbance".

We think home is the place for discipline.

Teachers are rarely fair or rational about anything; their beatings would turn into persecutions.

Typically, for instance, a bully is ignored but his victim is punished for "making a disturbance".

We think home is the place for discipline.

Teachers are rarely fair or rational about anything; their beatings would turn into persecutions.

Typically, for instance, a bully is ignored but his victim is punished for "making a disturbance".

No teacher has a right to lay their hands on children of other people... period.

First, spanking children is the wrong response to misbehaving. It will only anger the child. The child will rebel more often like it was challenging athority. I feel a child would be more likely to respect a wise adult who could handle a situation mentally rather than physically.
Second, the only reason spanking a child prevents misbehaving is because it terrifys them. But a childs fear will also dectract from a positive learning environment.

Skinner conditioning learns you that rewarding someone for good behavior works better than punishing for bad behavior.

No teacher has a right to lay their hands on children of other people... period.

Of course unless the government says so

Kids need to be spanked in school for their misbehaveing. It will make better people out of them and will make for a crime-free future. PLEASE if u are a UN Delegate please type in "Corpal Punnishment" under purposals and add ur vote. I would greatly apreciate it.
I'm sorry, I disagree. If parents would simply do their jobs and spank their kids at home, the kids wouldn't have to be spanked at school. Kids misbehave because Parents refuse to discipline. It is not a teacher's place to discipline.
~Ashe, Emperor of Sadak

First, spanking children is the wrong response to misbehaving. It will only anger the child. The child will rebel more often like it was challenging athority. I feel a child would be more likely to respect a wise adult who could handle a situation mentally rather than physically.
Second, the only reason spanking a child prevents misbehaving is because it terrifys them. But a childs fear will also dectract from a positive learning environment.
Longenburger, I was spanked as a child. I disagree with you for this. Sure, I was angry at the time, but I didn't rebel more, because I knew rebeling would just get me spanked again. I now look at kids whos parents believe as you do. They are some of the WORST behaved children I have seen. Another example of this would be my own nephews. My sister and her husband do not hesitate to spank Jordan when he needs it, and he is an extreemly well behaved kid now. It is rare now that he does something deserving a spanking because he learned early on what would get him spanked. At the same time, their next door neighbors have a child of the same age who is not spanked for misbehaving. I see this childs actions, and more then once I have been shocked by the absolutely terrible behavior. I've seen enough examples that I know that it is necessary in order to ensure well behaved children. That is all.
~Aslan, Emperor of Sadak

Catholic Europe is totally against any form of violence being used against children. We do not support this.
Catholic Europe, you seem to spend your life posting your vehement objections to almost every proposal, and we have never once seen you justify yourself!

I regret the wording of the poll, it seems to be implicating young children. In the provences, this is strictly prohibited, though children in secondary schools who show greater tendency to misbehaviour are physically chastised. Can we see a new poll that reflects that?

:shock: I CANT BELIEVE YOU ACTUALLY STARTED THIS TOPIC :shock:
:x :o YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED :o :x

Are you people insane?????!!!!! Is that a question that even needs asking???

Of course you must beat your kids!!!!! They are stupid and filthy. These 2 links say it better than I could:

http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

http://maddox.xmission.com/add.html

DOWN WITH CHILDREN!!!

"Kids are like any other kind of people. A few winners, a whole lot of losers!!" - George Carlin {You are all diseased}

Kids need to be spanked in school for their misbehaveing. It will make better people out of them and will make for a crime-free future. PLEASE if u are a UN Delegate please type in "Corpal Punnishment" under purposals and add ur vote. I would greatly apreciate it.That is completley unjust children should be happy and besides when we are they will spank us if you spank Them!

Are you people insane?????!!!!! Is that a question that even needs asking???

Of course you must beat your kids!!!!! They are stupid and filthy. These 2 links say it better than I could:

http://maddox.xmission.com/beat.html

http://maddox.xmission.com/add.html

DOWN WITH CHILDREN!!!

"Kids are like any other kind of people. A few winners, a whole lot of losers!!" - George Carlin {You are all diseased}

Catholic Europe, you seem to spend your life posting your vehement objections to almost every proposal, and we have never once seen you justify yourself!

Hmm, it's very rare to find my not apporve of a proposal. I don't know where you've been looking but you hven't been looking very hard.

Catholic Europe, a well-known rogue nation, also tries to evade the rule of law by "resigning" from the UN when votes it opposes are going to pass.

If the UN were a school, Catholic Europe would not only be spanked in class, but beaten up after school. Because Catholic Europe is stinky!

I agree wholeheartedly with spanking but feel that it should be done at school if and only if parents are aware of what's going on.

I was spanked very often as a child. Most of it occured, however, when I was really little, so I cannot remember many instances when I was spanked. The instances I DO remember went something like this.

1) I did something I KNEW was wrong.
2) Mom/Dad found out about it.
3) Dad told me to go to my room.
4) I started crying prematurely to avoid punishment.
5) My crying was ignored and Dad brought the paddle to my room.
6) I was briefly told why I was going to be spanked (like I needed to know by that point)
7) I was spanked anywhere from 5-10 times on the rear.
8) After the last spank I was instantaneously transported from my Dad's knee to his lap.
9) Dad gave me a big hug and told me he loved me.
10) I felt wonderful because I knew the punishment was over AND my Dad wasn't angry. I actually felt that my Dad loved me and wanted me to do what was right. And so I wanted to do what was right.

I'll take that over how "progressive parenting" anyday!

Life can be very painful.
The world is a brutal place.
Good and Bad, Right and Wrong, Truth and Deception all exist.
For every action there is a consequence.

In order for a child to succeed in life as an adult, they must learn these tenets early. A parent that truly loves their child will teach them. The best way to do that is through the application of disciplinary spankings by a loving parent.

Cause sure as shootin' SOMEBODY will spank them eventually, one way or the other. Society as a whole tends to do that. That's why we have police.

I would rather live knowing that I spanked my kids when they got outta line or blatantly showed disrespect for 'authority' than to be visiting them in jail.

Oh, and it's MY duty to spank my kids, Nobody else's. Anybody so much as even touches one of my children is gonna have 230 lbs. of ticked off Daddy all over them...

James Moehlman
Asst. Manager ico U.N. Affairs

If I may just point out the obvious...

The state takes your kids, with or without your permission. They take your money to pay for the guns that take your kids, with or without permission. They take them to teach them things that you may or may not agree with. In truth, public "free" education has achieved its goal perfectly -- it has turned a potential free-thinking child that will fight for freedom, into an adult incapable of abstract reasoning, that demands to be enslaved by the state.

Why not give teachers the power of life and death over kids? Just let em shoot anyone they want; it's the next logical step, and if you don't, your kids will be demanding it in the next one or two generations anyway.

Don't spank children. It's cruel and authoritarian.

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Schools should spank kids. Kids find detentions, ISS, or OSS fun! How is that punishment working? You know the next day the kid will go back to the way they were. If you spank them, well then it will make them think twice before acting out.

you must be insane!

Teachers do not have the right to lay their hands on someone else's children. I go to high school every day secure in the knowledge that I cannot be beaten, spanked, "flogged", or physically harmed in any way whatsoever by a teacher.

I AM the government. What I say goes. If people need to be beaten for being out of line, then so be it.

The Community of Absolute Pleasure's view on spanking is that it should be a punishment from the parent(s), or a "game" between two or more consenting adults

"In fact, if I weren't making allowance for the fact that your son is dead, I'd have him expelled."
"What?!"
"Yes, expelled!"

Teachers are idiots. Except for in my country of course, but I don't like setting precedents other less gifted countries may follow.

They've no right to be hitting children. Parents are quite entitled to but teachers most definitely not.

If I may just point out the obvious...

The state takes your kids, with or without your permission.

Hardly. All of the states have legal and, sometimes, Constitutional guarantees to the right to a home or private education. At the most, you'll have to report grades to the school board and your kids will have to take a few proficiency exams.

They take your money to pay for the guns that take your kids, with or without permission.

Uhh... what?

They take them to teach them things that you may or may not agree with.

Homeschool or private school. The solution is not that hard, you know.

pregnant women should also have the right to punch their bellies when they're pregnant so the damn baby stops kicking...

That'll teach that rebellious fetus

We of the Grand Atoll seldom spank our offspring; when we do, we place no difference between home or school or business park or temple to Goddess. We make the spanking part of a learning event, a loving aid for remembering the lesson learned.

But we more often employ better means of teaching our children. This better is by modelling the behavior we would have our small ones emulate, and by providing positive rewards for behavior that creates a positive effect. Rewards simply work better.

If other nations feel a need to differentiate between means of providing loving direction to their offspring at school or at home, we would not prevent them from this. So we of the Grand Atoll already do what you propose, although probably not in the manner in which you would expect. But we would not vote to require others to do so.

First of all, what is the point of spanking kids?

Yes, it might straight them into line, but for what? Avoiding punishment?

What this is saying is that people are only good for fear of punishment, rather than being a good people for the sake of morality.

We may decrease crime true (it is possible), but by no means are we helping the kids. If anything, we are hindering their mental growth by teaching them that things are only wrong because you get punished for it, and not the wrongness in the act itself.

We think home is the place for discipline.

Teachers are rarely fair or rational about anything; their beatings would turn into persecutiions.

Typically, for instance, a bully is ignored but his victim is punished for "making a disturbance".

Yes, but you can apply the threat of favoritism to just about any other form of punishment.

Favoritism isn't really the Issue---If the parent takes the responsibility rather than handing it over to an Administration officer of a public facility---It sets the Children to viewing their actions as to how it affects relationships they care about. Let's face it, most people don't care that an administrator or teacher is displeased with their behavior---It's elementary that a child see a cooperative effort between Parent and Teacher---rather than an overbearing administration and apathetic parents.

Favoritism isn't really the Issue---If the parent takes the responsibility rather than handing it over to an Administration officer of a public facility---It sets the Children to viewing their actions as to how it affects relationships they care about. Let's face it, most people don't care that an administrator or teacher is displeased with their behavior---It's elementary that a child see a cooperative effort between Parent and Teacher---rather than an overbearing administration and apathetic parents.
However, if the parents seem apathetic towards their childrens' behavior, would the children really care whether they displease their parents?

a whack on the butt with the parent's permission is ok

Sure, beating a kid may anger him and make him rebel against authority, but no kid is strong enough to retain that rebellion after three days of food and sleep deprivation, and a good caning.

Apistan has spoken.

The Armed Republic of Von Klompen supports the "Kids need to be Flogged or Beaten, Spanking isn't enough" proposal.

If those little bastards want to act out in class they will pay. They must learn the hard way.

And besides, it helps our children get tough for the manditory military service they must endure in The Armed Republic of von Klompen.

"In fact, if I weren't making allowance for the fact that your son is dead, I'd have him expelled."
"What?!"
"Yes, expelled!"

Ah, Rowan Atkinson, before Bean, and when he was really funny. Must dig out my record (yes, it's on big shiny vinyl) of his show at the Bradford Alhambra that contains that sketch. :lol:

Spanked by parents, yes. In school? No. There should be some other alternate form of punishment when they skip school or cut class. I'm not sure spanking is the answer.