NationStates Jolt Archive


Fighting Diseases in LEDCs

The Powder Monkey
03-01-2004, 22:39
Please approve to help LEDCs (lesser Economically Developed Countries) to have the right to free healthcare and treatments for diseases.

Thank you.
Feel free to telegram me about this topic.
Soltak
04-01-2004, 00:16
The Federation of Soltak will not support this proposal. We feel that lesser developed or Third World countries are in the state that they are in due to mismanagement and stupidity and are no one's responsibility but their own.
04-01-2004, 01:29
Why should LEDC's have free healthcare and treatments to diseases? If you give them that, they will want free food, water, wood, etc.
Soltak
04-01-2004, 01:42
Why should LEDC's have free healthcare and treatments to diseases? If you give them that, they will want free food, water, wood, etc.

Agreed. This is only setting LEDC's up for failure. If given constant and unconditional aide from larger, more developed, and better managed nations, they will strive for underachievement simply so that they might continue getting aide from these nations. It's a viscous cycle that only serves to hurt all parties.
04-01-2004, 01:43
Forced wealth redistribution is immoral. Ithuania will not support it, and it will beg its UN delegate to not support it as well (not like he really needs to :D)
The Global Market
04-01-2004, 01:47
Forced wealth redistribution is immoral. Ithuania will not support it, and it will beg its UN delegate to not support it as well (not like he really needs to :D)

LoL. On behalf of Libertarian Paradise, we will not support this proposal.
Ravar
04-01-2004, 03:50
While the aim of this proposal is indeed admirable, it says nothing about how it would be implemented. Ravar will not vote for feel-good proposals with no reasonably laid-out plan for implementation.

CMP Amalie Corvaquilan di Ravar
Ambassador to the UN
The Global Market
04-01-2004, 04:21
The Federation of Soltak will not support this proposal. We feel that lesser developed or Third World countries are in the state that they are in due to mismanagement and stupidity and are no one's responsibility but their own.

While we of the Global Market wouldn't go as far as to say that they are completely responsible for their own situation, we would say that they bear the brunt of the blame.

China and Hong Kong were economically identical in 1897, when the British took over Hong Kong. Today, China's per capita GDP is $1,500 while Hong Kong's is $27,000.

China and Taiwan were economically identical in 1949, when the communists took China and the nationalists fled to Taiwan. Today China's per capita GDP is $1,500 while Taiwan's is $12,500.

"Why are poor nations poor?" is a vexing question that does not have a simple solution. It will most likely be the driving question behind future international relations.

I submit that, while, those nations themselves bear the brunt of the blame, other nations are by no means blameless, especially in many cases in Sub-Saharan Africa.
_Myopia_
04-01-2004, 14:02
Hi you might remember that I submitted this propsal some time ago, The Powder Monkey is my region's UN delegate and has re-submitted it for me. here's the text, which does explain how the problems have been solved. I think this will be the last time in a while that you'll ses this proposal, since it doesn't seem to have quite the popularity it needs.


Fighting Diseases in LEDCs
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights Strength: Significant Proposed by: The Powder Monkey
Description: SADDENED THAT:

-easily preventable diseases are killing millions of children and indeed adults in LEDCs (Less Economically Developed Countries)

-HIV/AIDS has become endemic to many nations, especially in Africa



POSTULATING THAT:

-The prevention and curing of disease would help to alleviate many of the other problems plaguing the developing world, such as instability, and high birth rates in an effort to "compensate" for infant mortality rates

-All humans have a right to life which is more valuable than any individual, corporation or country's right to the money he, she or it has earned

-Improvement of conditions in poor countries will eventually benefit rich countries through increased safety from the spread of disease, increased stability, development of poor economies (and thus benefit to all by trade), reduced demands for short term aid and reduced numbers of refugees fleeing appalling conditions.



WORRIED THAT:

-corruption in poor countries' governments means that aid given to these states is often wasted





This assembly hereby authorises the establishment of a World Health Organisation Programme to deal with third world disease with the following measures:

-recruitment of both volunteer and paid medical workers

-sending these workers into countries designated as being in need of the programmes help (the WHO would, every five years, identify poor countries in need of this type of aid to aim the programme at, and these decisions may be overturned by a majority vote from the general assembly if it feels that the WHO's decisions are not in-keeping with the spirit of this resolution)

-establishment by these workers of free clinics

-provision of transport so that some workers can travel around to those areas which cannot be provided for by the clinics

-provision and administering by these workers (directly to the people in need) of free medicines, vaccinations (in order to fulfil the demands of the 'Keep The World Disease-Free' Resolution) and other treatments

-the distribution of free contraceptives to combat the spread of STDs (and as a bonus reduce spiralling birth rates)

-establishment of hygiene education programmes as long term preventatives

-carrying out the 'Global AIDS Initiative' Resolution through safe-sex education programmes and provision of suitable anti-retroviral drugs

-provision of clean water supplies



This programme will be funded by a tax on nation's governments, included in the UN membership fees already paid by UN countries:

-the WHO will decide reasonable amounts to tax on a sliding scale based on GNP and GNP per capita, and if it is deemed sensible, extremely poor countries could be made exempt

-these amounts shall constitute minimums - larger donations will be voluntary - and charities, individuals and corporations can donate too (though the programme must not be seen to favour the products of any particular pharmaceutical companies - any corporation whose products are in use by the programme may not contribute money, rather they may only give medical supplies, equipment, or perhaps the rights to drug patents).

-countries benefitting from the programme may be exempt from the tax, as long as they put an agreed amount into their health services


Approvals: 12 (The Powder Monkey, Bensum2, Peach Cobbler, Freebonia, Traegonia, Anthonycha, Painful intrusion, Badim Pollum, UmbrellaCorp, Tanah Burung, Jontes, New Ithilien)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 125 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Tue Jan 6 2004
The Powder Monkey
04-01-2004, 14:30
I understand your point about the poorer countries wanting more and more, but if you went into a full scale war (im talking ww3), and all doctors were postioned on the fronts and abroad, you would be grateful for this proposal.

Consider the aftermath, if you were in germany's situation at the end of ww2, you would be happy if you were a citizen.
04-01-2004, 14:32
Soltak, you and I seem to have been agreeing on much lately. This resolution, as the global market pointd out, is, in its own way, admirable, but it is mired by problems. Asside from the fact that the countries would become dependent and fall into further dissaray when support was pulled, why should I have to support a country when I have to run one of my own? Money and aid that I'd give them would be better spent improving the lives of my people. If they want our resources, perhaps they should move into my nation.

Yours,
Masestro Proteus
Progenitor and Caretaker of the Commonwealth of the Pure Existence
04-01-2004, 19:58
We have approved your resolution and will vote for it if it reaches the floor.
_Myopia_
04-01-2004, 21:49
If they want our resources, perhaps they should move into my nation.

Do the developed nations (a small minority) have the resources and space let alone the open-minded immigration policies needed to support all the people living in poor countries?

Economic migrants flee LEDCs daily but are turned away by our governments.
_Myopia_
04-01-2004, 21:50
If they want our resources, perhaps they should move into my nation.

Do the developed nations (a small minority) have the resources and space let alone the open-minded immigration policies needed to support all the people living in poor countries?

Economic migrants flee LEDCs daily but are turned away by our governments.
Soltak
05-01-2004, 01:42
Economic migrants flee LEDCs daily but are turned away by our governments.

Because, in general, they have no skills and no ability to be trained. It's a waste of resources when my nation has enough problems of its own. If some country with ridiculous amounts of money and resources to spend wants to help them, that's their problem, not mine. This resolution places unfair standards on everyone.

Support of LEDC's should be a choice, not a requirement.