NationStates Jolt Archive


Proposals : REFORM ACTS

Eruvia
29-12-2003, 18:09
As founder of the Federation of Earth we intend to further develop the UN as a more democratic organistation. Here are our 2 proposals, all delegates who believe in democracy please support them!

REFORM ACT 1 - Leadership
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Strong

WHERAS The United nations is intended to be a democratic organisation

RECOGNISING many memberstates don’t recognize democratic principles

WE RESOLVE THAT the reform acts will imposes necessary democratic improvements on all member nations

REFORM ACT 1
All membernations must acknowledge and accept the fact that government officials need to be elected by the people. Monarchs should be given a ceremonial function only.

Democratic Republic of Eruvia
Federation of Earth

REFORM ACT 2 - Religion
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: The Furtherment of Democracy
Strength: Significant

WHERAS The United nations is intended to be a democratic organisation

RECOGNISING many memberstates don’t recognize democratic principles

WE RESOLVE THAT the reform acts will imposes necessary democratic improvements on all member nations

REFORM ACT 2
All membernations must acknowledge and accept the fact that religion and government are two separate entities. People are free to follow any religion. As the state should represent all its citizens it can no longer be allowed to represent a religion as well.

Democratic Republic of Eruvia
Federation of Earth
Berkylvania
29-12-2003, 18:31
The slightly befuddled yet charmingly tousseld nation of Berkylvania says most respectfully

wtf?
Eruvia
29-12-2003, 21:25
I am more then willing to answer any questions you may have
Eruvia
30-12-2003, 02:34
BUMP
Eruvia
30-12-2003, 02:34
BUMP
Insainica
30-12-2003, 06:10
A noble goal to be sure but, nah lets not. If my nation wants to live in a perpetual state of anarchy it can, and those that want a theocracy can have it, no skin off us.
30-12-2003, 06:21
How is it a "necessary democratic improvement" to force other people to become democratic? That seems like a case of "Do what I say, not what I do." As for these two proposals in general, you are basically asking democracies to go on a power trip and say their way is the best, therefore everyone else in the UN must do what you do.
You also recognize that there are many UN nations which are not democracies...Do you think those countries will support these proposals? Why not just ASK everyone in the UN to pick another member and start fighting? Perhaps you've already thought of these issues, perhaps not, I'm assuming the latter, thus I bring them up.
Eruvia
30-12-2003, 15:49
If these resolutions pass they automatically increase the democracy in the countries. I am not asking for battle. If the refromation of the UN goes true and more furtherment of Democracy proposals get passed undemocratic nations will be forced to become more democratic or to leave the UN...
Eruvia
30-12-2003, 21:51
BUMP
Catholic Europe
30-12-2003, 21:54
No. Catholic Europe does not support this proposal, we especially do not support the 2nd one. We see it as an attack and conspiracy against religion and against people who have faith.
Soltak
31-12-2003, 00:55
The Federation of Soltak cannot support either one of these proposals as it feels that these and determinations that need to be made by individual member nations based upon the political and economic circumstances of their nation.

To infringe upon said decision-making ability, one would, in fact, be infringing upon democracy.
Eruvia
31-12-2003, 17:06
We accept the criticism but like to point out the proposals are meant to save the UN from itself, it has become a bombastic organisation, if they are enacted nations have the choice, love it or leave it...
31-12-2003, 19:29
Nations have always had the choice to accept the UN, or leave it (or just not join it in the first place). I don't think any resolution will change that...especially not a democratic one, unless it then turns the UN into a "Tyranny by Majority" organization, at which point it isn't even a democratic thing anymore. As for saving the UN from itself...a phrase comes to mind, "Too little, too late."
Soltak
31-12-2003, 21:41
We accept the criticism but like to point out the proposals are meant to save the UN from itself, it has become a bombastic organisation, if they are enacted nations have the choice, love it or leave it...

Nations have always had the opportunity to leave the UN if they grow unhappy. Hence the 'resign' button at the top of the UN page.

These resolutions do nothing to change that.
31-12-2003, 22:05
How many times must it be stated that democracy is an ineffective, corrupt form of government, which while it may work to the point that democratic nations are able to maintain continued existence, any number of problems exist. For those enlightened individuals who understand the quality of properly managed autocracy, this is a damning proposal. We do not wish to recede and lose the progress we have made simply to suit the needs of those who do not wish to move forward. While I would agree with the separation of church and state, I believe that the resolution is ineffective. However, in a way, I would be biased on such a topic as religion does not exist in the Commonwealth of the Pure Existence. In short, it is counter logical to submit such a proposal as it is likely to destroy the delicate balance of the world rather than unite it.

Yours,
Maestro Proteus
Progenitor and Caretaker of the Commonwealth of the Pure Existence
Eruvia
02-01-2004, 15:38
Well they got a rather fair amount of aprovals. More then I had hoped for actually. But nevertheless once more it proves to me that the UN is dead and doesn't work.
Soltak
03-01-2004, 01:26
Well they got a rather fair amount of aprovals. More then I had hoped for actually. But nevertheless once more it proves to me that the UN is dead and doesn't work.

Did you even stop to entertain the possibility that you didn't get enough endorsements because your ideas were bad ones? Of course not. If someone doesn't agree with me, it's because the UN doesn't work.
Collaboration
03-01-2004, 09:33
This would surely interfere with anarchies.

I fear it would upset our own system, which is largely based not on elections but consensus.
03-01-2004, 15:22
Well they got a rather fair amount of aprovals. More then I had hoped for actually. But nevertheless once more it proves to me that the UN is dead and doesn't work.

Did you even stop to entertain the possibility that you didn't get enough endorsements because your ideas were bad ones? Of course not. If someone doesn't agree with me, it's because the UN doesn't work.

Don't get me wrong the UN don't work thing has nothing to do with the proposals, I feel the UN doesn't work for a long time. As for proposals, everyone is entiteled to their opinions. This is mine, I was pleasently surprised there were at least some nations that see anything in a democratic UN.