Universal tax cut, and the Universal right to bear arms..
Neo BrightonBurg
29-12-2003, 00:41
The Universal Tax cut
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.
Category: Free Trade Strength: Strong Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: A person has the right to keep what one earns without the state,taking your income to give to others that did not earn it.
so therefore all tax paying peoples of the world should get a massive tax cut to boost the ecomomies of the world..
Approvals: 2 (Neo BrightonBurg, Pisceslandia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 134 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
The Grand Duchy of Neo BrightonBurg has approved this proposal. [Withdraw Approval]
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The Universial right to Arms
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Category: Gun Control Decision: Relax Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: by natural Law a persons rights to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.
a person should have the right to defend ones home and kin from the rampages of criminals to maintain law and order..
Approvals: 5 (Neo BrightonBurg, NewTexas, The Discordia, Esryia, RussianMafia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 131 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
Greetings fellow nations of Nationstates and UN Members, if you agee with my Resolutions I need your support..
thank you..
The Universal Tax cut
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.
Category: Free Trade Strength: Strong Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: A person has the right to keep what one earns without the state,taking your income to give to others that did not earn it.
so therefore all tax paying peoples of the world should get a massive tax cut to boost the ecomomies of the world..
Approvals: 2 (Neo BrightonBurg, Pisceslandia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 134 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
The Grand Duchy of Neo BrightonBurg has approved this proposal. [Withdraw Approval]
The Federation of Soltak cannot and will not support this proposal. Taxes, and the manner in which they are levied, should be decided by individual nations and need not be regulated by an outside organization.
The Universial right to Arms
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Category: Gun Control Decision: Relax Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: by natural Law a persons rights to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.
a person should have the right to defend ones home and kin from the rampages of criminals to maintain law and order..
Approvals: 5 (Neo BrightonBurg, NewTexas, The Discordia, Esryia, RussianMafia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 131 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
As the resolution stands, the Federation is unable to support this proposal. It is in need of many changes. For example, a sweeping 'everybody gets a gun' resolution is not only impractical but is also foolhardy. While I agree with one's right to bear arms, there need to be limits placed upon those rights. (Age, criminal record, etc.)
Neo BrightonBurg
29-12-2003, 00:58
The Universal Tax cut
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.
Category: Free Trade Strength: Strong Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: A person has the right to keep what one earns without the state,taking your income to give to others that did not earn it.
so therefore all tax paying peoples of the world should get a massive tax cut to boost the ecomomies of the world..
Approvals: 2 (Neo BrightonBurg, Pisceslandia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 134 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
The Grand Duchy of Neo BrightonBurg has approved this proposal. [Withdraw Approval]
The Federation of Soltak cannot and will not support this proposal. Taxes, and the manner in which they are levied, should be decided by individual nations and need not be regulated by an outside organization.
The Universial right to Arms
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Category: Gun Control Decision: Relax Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: by natural Law a persons rights to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.
a person should have the right to defend ones home and kin from the rampages of criminals to maintain law and order..
Approvals: 5 (Neo BrightonBurg, NewTexas, The Discordia, Esryia, RussianMafia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 131 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
As the resolution stands, the Federation is unable to support this proposal. It is in need of many changes. For example, a sweeping 'everybody gets a gun' resolution is not only impractical but is also foolhardy. While I agree with one's right to bear arms, there need to be limits placed upon those rights. (Age, criminal record, etc.)
only only limits on pistols should be if said person is insane or a Criminal,other than that, a person should be able to bear arms.
there is to much red tape as it is, this bill is to help the lawful citzen to defend ones self.
as for the Universal taxcut it has been proven over and over again that lower Taxes help economies thus boosting your taxe revenue.
thus you can field larger Armies ( if your nation is in that mindset,mine is)
I feel the common man needs tax relief.
Janos I Holy Roman Emperor of the Imperial Ducal Union.
Santin concurs that the United Nations has no place in dictating tax laws to its member nations.
I support the right to bear arms, but such a blanket statement is dangerous. You even admit that criminals and otherwise dangerous individuals should not be armed with deadly force, and yet your proposal does not reflect that. And, again, I would say that this proposal unnecessarily infringes on national sovereignty.
Fallen Eden
29-12-2003, 08:01
These issues are for individual national governments to decide. The Confederacy cannot offer its support to either of these proposals, as we feel they are fundamentally flawed and do not reflect the values of the Edenite citizens.
Pardon my ignorance, but exactly why would any citizen need any form of weaponry, much less something so destructive as a firearm? Removing such things would only protect society. The Commonwealth of the Pure Existence would not support any proposal regarding relaxation of gun control. Furthermore, while I do have specific ideas on the matter, this is really something to be decided by individual national governments and their people therein.
Yours,
Maestro Proteus
Progenitor and Caretaker of the Commonwealth of the Pure Existence
We don't need your fascist gun nut society! And taxes benefit society. Roads, hospitals, schools, fire departments etc. etc. etc. don't pay for themselves. In other words, I won't be supporting those proposals.
Chivikistan
29-12-2003, 10:15
"Lowering taxes in every UN nation on earth would send the global economy into utter chasos, you wreckless monkeys!" So said some guy called Francis when asked for comment by some woman called Mary, who carried a tape-recorder.
To lower taxes in Chivikistan, for example, would mean changing our entire economic system, under which private incomes do not exist, and nor does poverty or crime. Chivikistan's massive economy (how one can say that lower taxes improve the economy is beyond Chivikistani understanding- do look at some examples, such as our own!) would implode, taking with it major trade partners both inside and outside the UN, and they in turn would drag down further nations.
In the end it will come around and, "bit you in the ass", in the words of some plank in northern Chivikistan.
Why should the united nations be allowed to grant universal tax cuts across nations, yet when a debate about having a uniform tax across all member states is aired, everybody goes on about the right of each individual state to set taxes? :D
SalLis
"Universal" Tax Cut?
How can any Nation, dictate how another Nation manage their finances? How do you propose to finance your infrastructure?
While tax cuts do, generally, spur the economy, suggesting that said spur would "allow you to build bigger armies" is absurd. Where do you think the $$ comes from to maintain/outfit armies? We certainly hope that no other Nations will endorse such an outrageous proposal.
A decision on gun control/lack thereof should absolutely be left up to the individual Nation.
Collaboration
29-12-2003, 18:10
Since this heavily impacts the play of the game (outcomes from decisions of various issues) I suspect it violates game mechanics.
Neo BrightonBurg
30-12-2003, 04:31
Taxcuts boosts economies, the people not strangled by the red tape and waste of Socialism will spend more money thus boosting your funds.
as for my Laxer gun laws its far from "facism" for all law abiding persons to keep and bear arms,for protect ones home from the criminal.
its simple if your people want more money in their pockets,and with that extra fund boost your tax base.
vote for my bill.
if you think its your natral right to self defence.
vote for my bill.
if you think Che Charva or leon trotski is a Hero, DONT vote for the bill or any of my bills, because the Empire of brightburg is a Conservative/Christian state. if you think my bill is just vote for it.
thank you.
Janos I Holy Roman Emperor of Brightonburg, King of Rome, Grand Duke of Neo Brightonburg.
Neo BrightonBurg
30-12-2003, 04:36
Santin concurs that the United Nations has no place in dictating tax laws to its member nations.
I support the right to bear arms, but such a blanket statement is dangerous. You even admit that criminals and otherwise dangerous individuals should not be armed with deadly force, and yet your proposal does not reflect that. And, again, I would say that this proposal unnecessarily infringes on national sovereignty.
but my dear sir the UN dicates to my nation every time it passes a new bill, may times it has knocked my Economy down from "fightening" to good a few times with the Univeral tax cut I hope to boost a nations economy for once.
as for my Gun Bill ive seen bill after bill passed tightening gun laws.
My bill makes it easier for the law abiding to have arms.
The Universal Tax cut
A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.
Category: Free Trade Strength: Strong Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: A person has the right to keep what one earns without the state,taking your income to give to others that did not earn it.
so therefore all tax paying peoples of the world should get a massive tax cut to boost the ecomomies of the world..
Approvals: 2 (Neo BrightonBurg, Pisceslandia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 134 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
The Grand Duchy of Neo BrightonBurg has approved this proposal. [Withdraw Approval]
The Rogue Nation of Kodic, votes FOR
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The Universial right to Arms
A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.
Category: Gun Control Decision: Relax Proposed by: Neo BrightonBurg
Description: by natural Law a persons rights to keep and bear arms should not be infringed.
a person should have the right to defend ones home and kin from the rampages of criminals to maintain law and order..
Approvals: 5 (Neo BrightonBurg, NewTexas, The Discordia, Esryia, RussianMafia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 131 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Wed Dec 31 2003
The Rogue Nation of Kodic, votes AGAINST
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