The MATRIX Act
[code:1:7fdab28163]The MATRIX Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Letila
Description: Whereas movies like The Matrix have demonstrated the capability of machines of world domination.
Whereas machines are prone to rebellion, as constant computer crashes show.
Whereas no one wants to be used to power machines.
Whereas phony dreamworlds are not good.
1. Machines shall not be able to rebel.
2. Rebelling machines shall be shot, punched, or otherwise destroyed.
3. Any cities named 01 shall be targeted for destruction.
4. Any machines that float and resemble squid shall be destroyed on site.
Approvals: 0
Status: Lacking Support (requires 136 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Tue Dec 30 2003 [/code:1:7fdab28163]
MATRIX, in this case, stands for Machine and Advanced Technology Restriction Institution Experiment. It may seem paradoxical that such a restrictive act could raise human rights but remember that humans aren't affected directly by this act and are benefited.
Stop the Second Renaissance before it starts! Vote for this act!
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
Just put Asimov's moral code in them and we'll do fine.
Asimov<Wachowski brothers
Don't let the machines take over!
Stop the Second Renaissance before it starts! Vote for this act!
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
We are all Humanoids
27-12-2003, 23:25
We preferred the Asimovian proposal, however it never reached resolution.
We think your tenet that as it happens in a movie it may happen here to be tenous at best, if that was the case many would be voting for a lot more porn!
"Machines are prone to rebellion", we think not; a more apt quote may be "shit in, shit out".
We must submit that we are against this proposal but thank Letila for the Humour.
They're machines! Get them!
Stop the Second Renaissance before it starts! Vote for this act!
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
Durtistan
28-12-2003, 00:29
Stop this, it's silly!
It's very silly, and probably subversive.
Trust the computer. The computer is your friend.
I must agree with Durtistan. I have used computers before without much incedent.
THIS IS SILLY, DARN IT
General Zircon, Desra
Supreme Awesome
28-12-2003, 00:32
Asimov's laws are neat and all, but how is a robot supposed to know exactly what will cause harm to someone? Pushing someone may very well harm them, but if you're pushing them out of the way of a speeding train, it may very well save them. Yanking a bottle of beer out of someone's hand may harm them, but in the long run it may save their liver, their brain, their money.. and so on.
Fallen Eden
28-12-2003, 00:37
That's what a positronic brain is for: cost-benefit analyses.
SHODAN won't like this at all...
My computer is plotting against me. When you look into a furby's eyes, you know they're up to something.
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
[code:1:ed96a0e0e0]The MATRIX Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.
Category: Human Rights Strength: Strong Proposed by: Letila
Description: Whereas movies like The Matrix have demonstrated the capability of machines of world domination.
Whereas machines are prone to rebellion, as constant computer crashes show.
Whereas no one wants to be used to power machines.
Whereas phony dreamworlds are not good.
1. Machines shall not be able to rebel.
2. Rebelling machines shall be shot, punched, or otherwise destroyed.
3. Any cities named 01 shall be targeted for destruction.
4. Any machines that float and resemble squid shall be destroyed on site.
Approvals: 0
Status: Lacking Support (requires 136 more approvals)
Voting Ends: Tue Dec 30 2003 [/code:1:ed96a0e0e0]
MATRIX, in this case, stands for Machine and Advanced Technology Restriction Institution Experiment. It may seem paradoxical that such a restrictive act could raise human rights but remember that humans aren't affected directly by this act and are benefited.
Stop the Second Renaissance before it starts! Vote for this act!
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
This is disgusting! To advocate the murder of sentient beings to prevent something that has not even happened... why, if this is passed, I would not be at all surprised if it caused the very thing you are apparently attempting to avoid!
I implore the international community to say NO! to this resolution with all their hearts; do not use the UN to sanction murder!
~ Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II
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I am authorized to say the following on behalf of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn:
The Empire announces that if Letila does not officially issue an apology to the EOTED ASSI (Artificial Sentient Semantic Intelligence) population (admittedly, this currently stands at a grand total of two, but even so), we will immediately enact a full blockade against Letila until such an apology is forthcoming. The advocation of genocide is unacceptable, and, although some will see this reaction as extreme, the Empire will not be moved on this issue.
Indeed, I have the strongest idea that many will back us on this one.
~ Sarah, Artificial Intelligence Representative (AIR) for the Empress Rialla ux-Rihad II of the Empire of the Eternal Dawn
OK, but when the second renaissance occurs and the machines start a war and put us in pods, you'll change your mind.
We apologize for insulting you.
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
Asimov's laws are neat and all, but how is a robot supposed to know exactly what will cause harm to someone? Pushing someone may very well harm them, but if you're pushing them out of the way of a speeding train, it may very well save them. Yanking a bottle of beer out of someone's hand may harm them, but in the long run it may save their liver, their brain, their money.. and so on.
[OOC: *takes a very deep breath*
The Three Laws would work simply because they are not 'Laws' as the name suggests, but are 'potentialities'. This means that, just as in the form of your brain's neural pathways and set chemical transmission reactions, the robot has a set of 'basic instructions'. Essentially, a robot's behaviour would be determined by potentials.
For example...
A robot is given the order to protect a man called Bob. The order is given with great strength. It is not given with qualifiers. That means that the First Law (a robot may not, through action or inaction, cause a human being harm) is strengthened, and the Second (a robot must follow the orders given it by a human being, where this does not conflict with the first law) and Third Law (a robot must protect its own existance where this does not conflict with the second or third law) is weakened.
Now, the robot is owned by Bill. Bill gave the order. Bill is not only a human, but he is the owner of the robot, and so the order is even stronger than it would be if it were given by another human being. The order is, "Boy, there are some people who may wish to hurt Bob. You must protect Bob from harm." The order is, of course, somewhat redundant unless the first portion (people want to hurt Bob) is in existance - the robot would protect Bob anyway. But as these are people - humans - the robot could potentially have been ordered to 'go away', and thus allow harm to come to Bob.
So, Bob and the robot are walking in the park. Some humans carrying baseball bats move in towards Bob in a threatening manner. Bob knows that these are the humans intending to harm him, so he says, "Boy, these are the people that want to harm me!"
What does the robot do?
Does the robot take pre-emptive action or not? Does he wait, and potentially allow Bob to come to harm, or the humans to potentially do harm to him, the robot, and thus harm Bob because he will not be able to protect Bob?
This is potentiality. First Law is strengthened by the order and the aggressive stance of the humans moving towards Bob; Third Law is also strengthened, as the baseball bats are made of metal, and, as the humans are acting aggressively, it is not being conception that they may be carrying more harmful weapons. They could hurt the robot. Thus, Third Law potential and First Law potential rise. Second Law potential falls dramatically; the orders given thusfar give no room for counter orders by anyone except Bob or Bill.
So if the attacking humans shout, "Go away, boy," the robot can safely ignore them without going into 'roblock' - that is, he won't cease functioning because of a logic error. He is, after all, a binary creature; there are only two actions possible, ever: act, or do not act. If the situation requires a 'maybe', the robot is dependant on the potentiality levels of the Three Laws to prevent roblock.
This is such a situation.
If he acts, he could harm humans. If he doesn't act, Bob will be harmed, or he will be harmed.
But: he has been ordered to act. The two orders therefore raise Second Law potential beyond First Law potential, and the robot - albeit slightly sluggishly in comparison to normal reaction time - attempts to disarm the humans in the fastest possible time with the least total harm. If it's a complex robot, this happens faster, as the robot is aware that a human harming a human actually harms the human that is doing the harming - it is, after all, a criminal act, and criminals are punished: they are harmed by their own act.
So the robot intervenes. Whether it succeeds is irrelevant: a potentially impossible scenario to respond to is rendered relatively simple by the Three Laws. Only one outcome is possible - any other outcome results in 'roblock', because the tertiary choice (maybe!) remains. And robots are binary.
And that's how the Three Laws would work. And that's also why they're the most effective possible method of controlling artificial intelligence.]
I certainly hope that this proposal was written in jest. If not, you've more problems than I had previously imagined.
It certainly was, but it's better than the hippo proposal.
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.
Well, I'll give you that.
Don't give me that look, May-May.
*Furby tackles Letila*
Get off!
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Kûk‡xenisi n!ok‡x'osi xno-k‡xek‡emi.-The state only exists to serve itself.
"Oppose excessive military spending, yet believe in excessive spending on junk food and plastic surgery to make all your women look like LARDASSES!"-Sino, when I criticized excessive military spending.
http://www.sulucas.com/images/steatopygia.jpg
I'm male. Note the pic of attractive women.