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From the Office of the President of the Byzantine League





It is my sad duty to inform the United Nations that due to their openly hostile acts against nations and their right to express their sovereignty, and their refusal to allow for amendments to be passed in regards to past UN resolutions, the Allied States of the Byzantine League Here by refuses to comply with Gay Marriage. This nation refuses to submit to such an infringement on the sovereignty of a Nation. We here by decide that the UN is an ineffective Body, and I ask that my fellow nations join me in this Protest against the UN, until which time the Administrators of the UN realize the error of their ways, and are willing to listen to reason.

I know. It's lame at times.

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From the Office of the President of the Byzantine League





It is my sad duty to inform the United Nations that due to their openly hostile acts against nations and their right to express their sovereignty, and their refusal to allow for amendments to be passed in regards to past UN resolutions, the Allied States of the Byzantine League Here by refuses to comply with Gay Marriage. This nation refuses to submit to such an infringement on the sovereignty of a Nation. We here by decide that the UN is an ineffective Body, and I ask that my fellow nations join me in this Protest against the UN, until which time the Administrators of the UN realize the error of their ways, and are willing to listen to reason.


Although I do not agree with you as to protesting the UN because you refuse to follow their own rules I do understand your point of view. The entire reason to join the UN is to become a part of a universal government as it were, which is indeed a democracy. The members vote and apparently over 51% in favor of means all nations must therefore be lawful to any proposal voted on. I myself have a problem with more of the countries voting for odd and pointless issues than the actual UN itself. The UN was created to obtain universal rules for all member nations. A fair playing field as it were. But when very simple proposals are made to show that everyone in the UN is not a democracy they do not know how to handle it very well in this game. The entire point of UN proposals is free speech, and when proposals are deleted without being asked to clarify something that most decidedly does make absolute sense but not to a particular "Game governing entity" I think there needs to be a consensus taken or at least an ability to debate the topic in an open forum without first being declared wrong. This is my only problem with the UN other than that I understand having to obey the laws that are set forth in a majority vote.

Byzantine League, I've made it abundantly clear that your sovereignty argument does not exist here. Because the UN can make laws infringing on national sovereignty - and has, in the past - might be a good reason not to be involved in it, but it isn't a good reason to do a "moral high horse" act and make formal protests about it.
The UN works the way the UN works. If admin changes the way it works, then the changes will be implemented. Don't expect that publicity stunts like this will influence the change - they've been tried before and get you nowhere.

Also, ANY proposal need 6% if UN Delegates to pass. If you get an admendment in the queue and fewer than that approve,it's not coming to a voye.
What hjappens in here is the will of the majority (and seeing as most votes wind up 7-1 for) that constitutes a large consenus.

Considering the way your region seems to treat its Citizens one must wonder why you continue to be in the UN at all. If you do not wish to abide by UN decisions in a global community, simply withdraw from the organization.

Byzantine League, I've made it abundantly clear that your sovereignty argument does not exist here. Because the UN can make laws infringing on national sovereignty - and has, in the past - might be a good reason not to be involved in it, but it isn't a good reason to do a "moral high horse" act and make formal protests about it.
The UN works the way the UN works. If admin changes the way it works, then the changes will be implemented. Don't expect that publicity stunts like this will influence the change - they've been tried before and get you nowhere.

Enodia, I have to respectfully disagree, for if we do not bring attention to the issue than there will be no reason for "admin" to think there IS an issue. Such are the tactics available to those who still harbor a belief that International cooperation is a worthy cause and are not yet willing to concede that the UN is absolutely corrupt. My government has informed me to lend the full support of our Nation to this official protest.

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What hjappens in here is the will of the majority (and seeing as most votes wind up 7-1 for) that constitutes a large consenus.

This is a LIE touted by the "Manipulative Minority" currently running the UN. The fact of the matter is that the term "majority" within the UN applies to a "majority" of those nations that bother to vote and NOT A MAJORITY of Member Nations.
The "Manipulative Minority" relyies on the high volume of "irresponsible member nations" that have absolutely no idea of the impact of their continued apathy in the fullfilment of their member obligations. It goes without saying that the members of a voluntary organization have the implied responsiblity to participate in all determinative activities of that organization, if not then they show a disdain for the entire organization they espouse to support.

Byzantine League, I've made it abundantly clear that your sovereignty argument does not exist here. Because the UN can make laws infringing on national sovereignty - and has, in the past - might be a good reason not to be involved in it, but it isn't a good reason to do a "moral high horse" act and make formal protests about it.
The UN works the way the UN works. If admin changes the way it works, then the changes will be implemented. Don't expect that publicity stunts like this will influence the change - they've been tried before and get you nowhere.

[ooc: I'll say...I've seen these things so many times it's not even funny.]

Goobergunchia wishes to inform the Byzantine League that their violation of this UN resolution makes them a rogue state in the eyes of all nations with respect for the rule of law. Goobergunchian forces are being mobilized at this very hour to impose the will of the UN upon your nation.

We give you two options: either resign from the United Nations or accept the resolution. If you do not, you will face our wrath.

By Order of the Byzantine League Senate, and with Approval of all the Member states of the Byzantine League, we here by declare war on the nation of Goobergunchia in retaliation for their hostile threats toward this league. We Implore other Nations to support us in this Noble cause, and to help us beat this ruthless aggressor.

By Order of the Byzantine League Senate, and with Approval of all the Member states of the Byzantine League, we here by declare war on the nation of Goobergunchia in retaliation for their hostile threats toward this league. We Implore other Nations to support us in this Noble cause, and to help us beat this ruthless aggressor.

[ooc: I'm going to be nice and not nuke you into oblivion, which I easily could.]

The High Council has authorized military action by vote of 56-42.

A small detachment of the First Fleet of the Goobergunchian Navy steams out of Conipepis Bay, Goobergunchia, and heads off towards Byzantine waters.

DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE {
From: Lord Goobergunch, President of Goobergunchia
To: The Byzantine League
{
Our ultimatum stands. Either resign from the United Nations or comply with its resolutions. If you do so, we will withdraw forces. If not, you have brought the consequences upon yourself.
}}

i join you in protesting the un resolution to support gay marriage. i say we destroy gay marriage!

The fact of the matter is that the term "majority" within the UN applies to a "majority" of those nations that bother to vote and NOT A MAJORITY of Member Nations.
Every member nation has the option of voting. If they don't bother to vote - tough. They obviously don't care one way or the other. To be honest, if it was up to me I'd boot out any nation that never voted on proposals within a certain time limit - they obviously just want "UN member" after their name.

The "Manipulative Minority"
Who is this you're talking about here? Care to mention some nations, because I don't know who you're talking about.

Apart from the large number of non-voters, what exactly are you complaining about here? If you don't like being forced to accept UN resolutions, leave the UN. Is the problem the lack of proposals reaching quorum? Most proposals aren't fit to waste webspace, let alone be voted upon. Is the problem the lack of voting on the proposal? Well, you won't change that without changing the game mechanics - and to be honest, reaching quorum is no guarantee that a proposal will become a resolution.

SC
(who reads every proposal put forward - yes, every %$#@! one, up to 27 pages at a time :evil:)

It has come to my intention, that the United Nations, wishes to impose their beliefs upon citizens of all Nations. The Tsalagi, refuses to surrender our sovereigntry, and will assist those wishing to regain it. This brings to mind the acts of the aggressive Goobergunchia, against the sovereign Nation of The Byzantine League. At this moment, we are offering The Byzantine League, a sum of Five Billion Dollars, for their war efforts, in hopes that they may build the defenses, and offenses, that they may need. Future events, may decide on the course of action that the Tsalagi take. Which may lead for the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi to take action.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi

[OOC: I want in on this, if it's still going.]

It has come to my intention, that the United Nations, wishes to impose their beliefs upon citizens of all Nations. The Tsalagi, refuses to surrender our sovereigntry, and will assist those wishing to regain it. This brings to mind the acts of the aggressive Goobergunchia, against the sovereign Nation of The Byzantine League. At this moment, we are offering The Byzantine League, a sum of Five Billion Dollars, for their war efforts, in hopes that they may build the defenses, and offenses, that they may need. Future events, may decide on the course of action that the Tsalagi take. Which may lead for the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi to take action.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi

[OOC: I want in on this, if it's still going.]

I'm just waiting for Byzantine to reply. However, we would note in general that UN membership is optional and if one doesn't wish to follow UN resolutions, one shouldn't join.

This has been an OOC post.

It has come to my intention, that the United Nations, wishes to impose their beliefs upon citizens of all Nations. The Tsalagi, refuses to surrender our sovereigntry, and will assist those wishing to regain it. This brings to mind the acts of the aggressive Goobergunchia, against the sovereign Nation of The Byzantine League. At this moment, we are offering The Byzantine League, a sum of Five Billion Dollars, for their war efforts, in hopes that they may build the defenses, and offenses, that they may need. Future events, may decide on the course of action that the Tsalagi take. Which may lead for the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi to take action.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi


It is difficult for a peaceful nation like Durtistan to understand the mindset involved in this statement. Surerly the United Nations, an organisation one joins voluntarily, is meant to be a forum for the peaceful resolution of issues and differences. By joining the UN, the nation agrees to participate in a democratic process designed to create areas of commonality between nations rather than allow them even greater license to disagree.

Durtistan calls upon all three nations involved in this current dispute to return to the diplmatic process, put aside the language of threat and counter threat, and engage in peaceful negotiation to resolve their differences. To that end, Durtistan is willing to offer its services as a neutral meeting place for all concerned where talks can take place. We hope that this matter can be resolved peacefully.

to the Essteemed Bureaucrat of Durtistan, hostilities would end if the Nation that Initiated the Threats in the First place simply retract them, and as reparations for there hostile act, withdraw from the UN.

to the Essteemed Bureaucrat of Durtistan, hostilities would end if the Nation that Initiated the Threats in the First place simply retract them, and as reparations for there hostile act, withdraw from the UN.

Goobergunchia would not have initialized hostilities if the Byzantine League was in compliance with the United Nations. We simply request compliance with UN resolutions, as they accepted when they joined the UN.

The Byzantine League still has time to comply. It is not too late.

The Federation of Soltak offers its support for Goobergunchia.

It will not deploy troops at this time due to its understanding that Goobergunchia does not require military assistance while dealing with such an inconsequential nation.

Durtistan, we understand your Neutrality, and wishes only the best of you and your people. With that said, please understand that hostile intent from nations wishing to impose their belief on another Nation will be met with oposition.

Goobergunchia, your hostility is the cause of this War. Should your aggressive behavior cease, this war would come to a peaceful end. Respect a Nation's sovereigntry, and do not attempt to force your laws unto them. Understand that by joining the United Nations, a Nation does not surrender it's sovereigntry. Cease your hostile intent, respect the boundaries of The Byzantine League. End this war, before it actually starts.

Soltak, your support of Goobergunchia is not well understood. We do not understand why you support such a hostile, war-like nation. We do not understand, why you believe the Nations of the Tsalagi, and The Byzantine League, is inconsequential. Understand that while Goobergunchia is a large, powerful Nation, the people of Tsalagi are a proud people. And the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi, is a brave orginization built for our defense.

Untill hostility of Goobergunchia has ended, the Tsalagi continue to support the Byzantine League, and will offer Military Assistance should it be needed.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi

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The Tsalagi Danuwa analahi requests that the Byzantine League allow us to park a total of 3 Infantry Regiments, 2 Cavalry Regiments, and 1 Armored Cavalry Brigade within your Country. At this time however, they will only be in preperation for the upcoming war. And will only act by the dual order of myself, and the Principle Chief.

Golanv Shilup
Tsalagi War Chief

Before this topic detours completely into "The War of the UN Amendment" (which seems like the third-silliest cause of a war in history - following "The War of Jenkins' Ear" and "The Football War", look them up sometime for a laugh), I'd like to make a few statements.

1. Please move any war mobilisation to another forum - NationStates or International Incidents. Particularly if a shot is fired.

2. In terms of the whole "amendment/repeal" business, Adriano-Trice, the admin has been aware of the feeling that a more responsive UN is required for quite some time. Stephistan and I have mucked around with a few possibilities for how this would work and - last time I heard - [violet] has that on the to-do list. There are apparently more important things ahead of it, but admin are aware of the situation.

The Free Democratic Republic of The Bulgarite will help The Byzantine League in defending itself, if Goobergunchia attacks.

We would like to ask Goobergunchia to refrain from any hositle actions against The Byzantine League and to try and find a peaceful way out of this mess. We would also like to ask the same from The Byzantine League, of course.

The Byzantine League accepts The Tsalagi offer for Military assistance and allows for Permistion for Troops to be based with in the League's borders for it's defence.

I have proposed the following UN resolution. I will comply with all UN resolutions, and agree to end hostilities if all involved help me to get the Following proposal passed.

Self Inforcement
A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: The Furtherment of Democracy Strength: Mild Proposed by: The Byzantine League
Description: We the Byzantine League here by propose that all nations with in the UN retain the Right to implement a UN resolution in a means they seem fit. In addition we propose that the UN can not interfere with how a nation chooses to implement a UN resolution with in its own country.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 136 more approvals)

Voting Ends: Mon Dec 29 2003

Goobergunchia has never been appointed by the UN to enforce its silly laws and hence is acting out of pure aggression with no authority. To discourage such arrogant adventurism by this rogue nation, we offer our assistance to the Byzantine League in its defense. Our military has been ordered to mobilize and nuclear forces are on full alert. Also, we are offering to supply Byzantine League with military hardware, including plutonium and classified biological resources. In return we ask permission from Byzantine League to deploy a portion of our strategic nuclear missiles on their territory.

Goobergunchia has never been appointed by the UN to enforce its silly laws and hence is acting out of pure aggression with no authority. To discourage such arrogant adventurism by this rogue nation, we offer our assistance to the Byzantine League in its defense. Our military has been ordered to mobilize and nuclear forces are on full alert. Also, we are offering to supply Byzantine League with military hardware, including plutonium and classified biological resources. In return we ask permission from Byzantine League to deploy a portion of our strategic nuclear missiles on their territory.

I concur with Dominancy, and will provide the very same.

Attention to the noted coward, Lord Goobergunch of Goobergunchia:

Your policies of intimidation, harassment and gunboat diplomacy toward smaller nations will no longer be tolerated. If your lawless ultimatum and your naval detachment are not withdrawn within 36 hours, a state of war will exist between our nations. Naval forces are already en route.


Dominus Magnus, first citizen of the Dominion.

GASP! God forbid anyone join the U.N. To be democratic! Cmon folks. Really now.

Hey as long as it's a peaceful protest do what you want.

Wow. I dunno whether or not to pick sides or just sit back and watch everyone make complete as$holes of themselves. I am sure it will be the latter however.

You kids all forget, U.N. membership is voluntary and it said when you signed up that this was what you were going to get. That doesnt make Mr. Goobergunchia in the right at all, but READ the small print. You sound like a pissed off 18 year old who got their first credit card statement.

“NUH UH! I DIDNT AGREE TO THAT 34% INTEREST RATE!”

While I dont agree with Goobergunchia, look at who else makes sure the U.N. is all that is is supposed to be by enforcing the laws. No one. It is food for thought. Exactly what is supposed to happen when someone is naughty? There is also interesting food for thought about the Major minority whoo-ha.

All over gay marriage too. What a shame. So much for taking one step foward for man kind. You figure it would be something important like trying to turn peanut butter purple like that new ketchup.

I will keep an eye out for that amendment.

The People's Republic of Kiroshi understands the state of current affairs between Goobergunchia and the ally's, and shall be keeping a careful eye over affairs at hand. We hope that to see that this ends peacefully.



Masamune Kiroshi
The People's Republic of Kiroshi

OOC:

Goobergunchia: The naval detachment you have sent to Byzantine waters is under observation by satellite and submarines. Please notify as to its composition.

Enodia: Because this war was begun by Goobergunchia over its alleged right to enforce UN resolutions by violence, we request that it be continued right here, so that it will be demonstrated directly before the UN that such violent adventurism in its name will not be tolerated, and so that Lord Goobergunch's lack of stomach to back up his bullying will become known to all in the UN.

Durtistan agrees that the enforcement of UN Resolutions by violent means is a situation to be avoided whenever possible. However, UN Resolutions are democratically arrived at. Every member state has the opportunity to debate and vote on each resolution before it is passed, giving each nation a chance to set forth its arguements and gather support for its point of view. If a resolution is passed that is contrary to the internal policies of a state then that is the price of UN Membership. Resolutions must be complied with once they are passed; the enforcement of those resolutions upon states who refuse to comply should be a matter for the UN as a whole and no state should take unilateral action that could result in the tragedy of war.

Durtistan once again urges those members who are currently in the process of mobilisation to step back from the brink and consider carefully the consequences of this dangerous and unneccesary military action.

I have offered an Olive branch, and a Reasonable one at that, I hope that this war can be avoided. My Nation here be retracts it's decleration of War, but still maintains Vigilence as to defend it self in case the agression can not be stoped.

The Tsalagi understand the policies of the United Nations. And recognizes that it is a democracy. However, should the People not be allowed to protest, then is it a democracy still? I do not believe so, and the Tsalagi do not believe so. While I somewhat agree with Gay Marrage, I also agree with protests against it. And a Nation, willing to use Military force to silence the protest, is simply wrong. We remain, as allies to The Byzantine League. Simply because we believe that Goobergunchia is using it's Might, to push those who disagree with it, into submission. An act that cannot, and will not be allowed to continue. We wish this conflict to end peacefully, but that is in the hands of Goobergunchia.

Tawdoi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi
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Byzantine League, I thank you for allowing our troops to park in your Country. But I must ask the permission once more, so that we may meet the aggressing forces quicker. I ask that a Battle Group be allowed to patrol your waters. So that our Naval forces may bring an end to the Goobergunchia Naval Attack.

Golanv Shilup
Tsalagi War Chief

The issue here is not the enforcement of UN resolutions; this is none of our business, but it appears to be accomplished automatically by the Ministry of Compliance in any case. The issue here is that Goobergunchia has taken the liberty, without even consulting the UN, of undertaking war in its name - a thinly veiled pretext for opportunistic aggression. This is not the first time the notoriuos bully Lord Goobergunch has resorted to threats of violence against much smaller nations in order to silence their protests. We can no longer stand by while such intimidation tactics are openly employed in what is supposed to be a meeting place between nations where all have a voice.
Our mobilization continues. Any assistance which other defenders of peace are willing to provide in our fight against the Goobergunchian aggressor, especially troop transports, will be greatly aprreciated.


Dominus Magnus, commander-in-chief of the Dominion

Not only has this matter been blown out of proportion, it is viewed as complete idiocy by the Soltakian Chancellor.

If someone does not step up to the plate and defend the UN resolutions, they become worthless. The Federation applauds Goobergunchia for its actions.

Dominancy: You made mention earlier of the UN's 'silly resolutions.' Don't like them? Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Regarding the statements made about Lord Goobergunch's 'harassment of smaller nations' and 'silencing of protests: When matters of absolutely no import and being discussed, military force is often required.

In closing, the Chancellor hopes that war will be averted, but it prepared to dispatch troops and equipment if it cannot.

I remind the delegate from Soltak that we are not yet at war with your country, but if you provide military assistance to the Goobergunchian aggressor we will be obliged to consider you a full belligerent.

Please read our earlier communique, if you are suffering from the delusion that we care about resisting the enforcement of UN resolutions. This is about unprovoked aggression on the part of the notorious villain Lord Goobergunch and the right of nations to speak their opinions.

If you think the UN needs to use war to enforce its resolutions, you ought to introduce a resolution to that effect, instead of siding with the renegade vigilante nation of Goobergunchia.

In the meantime, you may wish to consider vaccinating your citizens against ebola as speedily as possible.


Dominus Magnus, supreme executor of the Dominion

*Statement made on the Tsalagi 24 Hour News Network "24HNN"*

Well, the Soltakian Chancellor, views us as a bunch of idiots. If the Sotakian Chancellor says it, it must be true..no? Listen here "Chancellor" some moronic Imperilist issued a threat, and we responded. You want to side with Goobergunchia? You want to kiss their ass and rub your tongue all in their shit? Listen here, we got our Warriors preped and ready to go. Step into this conflict, they'll be hell to pay.

Sergeant Major Richard Montgomery Lee
Sergeant Major of the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi

"Sighs loudly!"

This is preposterous! That any nation should see fit to go to war over a UN matter is ridiculous! The UN has the power to enforce any agreed resolution on any member state, it does not need, and we believe, does not want, any member going to war on it's behalf!

We of 'We are all Humanoids' are a small nation in the South Pacific, and we condemn totally all potential belligerents. As a nation we hold freedom dear, we believe we have a beautiful nation and hope we have beautiful hearts, therefore, in the interest of peace, to say nothing of avoiding the slaughter of a great many persons, we honestly submit the following.

That all potential combatants send 1 person with voting rights, and an unarmed entourage of no more than 100 persons to our nation, with a view to peacefully overcome any differences that currently exist between them. All parties will attend under their honour and will carry no weapons of any kind!

In the intrest of peace, the Tsalagi will agree with "We are all Humanoids". The Tsalagi White Chief, will come to your Nation, unarmed. However, we must ask that the entourage be armed. However, only with small weapons such as pistols, knives, and the likes thereof. Not only for the Tsalagi, but for all parties. Our Ambassadors need to be able to be protected.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi

Agreed by

Tsisquilasda
Tsalagi White Chief

If some of the nations present dislike the U.N. mechanism, we suggest they leave the U.N. and form an informal alliance -- their own, laxer version of the U.N. For example, they could create an external forum, which it is possible to do for free on several internet websites, link to it from the NS International Incidents forum to attract recruits, and then discuss things and vote on resolutions there. Because this would not technically be a part of the NationStates game, the resolutions passed would not be enforced.

However, that is the only real option open to a nation that does not like the U.N. but wants to be a part of some sort of global legislative organization. The way the NationStates U.N. works won't be changing anytime soon, and the way it works is that as soon as a resolution is passed by the majority of nations, the Compliance Ministry enforces it automatically in all member states. Because NSUN resolutions have an actual effect on your nation's statistics and their enforcement is automatic, you do not have the option of refusing to follow any UN resolutions if you are a member.

1) Membership in the U.N. is voluntary. If you don't wish to follow its resolutions, or don't like the way it works, all you need to do is leave the U.N., and they will no longer apply to you.

2) If you choose to be a member of the U.N., the Compliance Ministry automatically ensures that all resolutions are enforced in your nation. You don't have a choice. It's either all or nothing; either comply with all U.N. resolutions, or leave.

Thus, the point of enforcing UN resolutions with military force is moot. The Compliance Ministry is already enforcing them, no matter how much certain member states may protest.

Office of the Prime Minister

*Statement made on the Tsalagi 24 Hour News Network "24HNN"*

Well, the Soltakian Chancellor, views us as a bunch of idiots. If the Sotakian Chancellor says it, it must be true..no? Listen here "Chancellor" some moronic Imperilist issued a threat, and we responded. You want to side with Goobergunchia? You want to kiss their ass and rub your tongue all in their shit? Listen here, we got our Warriors preped and ready to go. Step into this conflict, they'll be hell to pay.

Sergeant Major Richard Montgomery Lee
Sergeant Major of the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi


While the Chancellor does not expend his time with such trivial matters as watching the Tsalagi News Network, several members of his cabinet do. The Minister of Foreign Affairs issued this response:

His Excellence does not intend to kiss anyone's ass, nor does he desire to rub his tongue in anything. The Chancellor has had only minimal relations with the Goobergunchian government has is not engaged in a formal alliance of any kind. His statements were made based upon the issues, rather than from a vulgar, emotional context. My thanks for trivializing the debate.

We are all Humanoids welcomes the Tsalagi's response, we feel the carriage of weapons to be unneccessary and a potential for further conflict.

We are a honourable race and WE WILL GUARANTEE THE SAFETY OF ALL PRESENT, however if the principle of negotiation has been re-established and if all other potential belligerents are in agreement some deal may be done!

Edwaurdo
Prime Minister
We are all Humanoids

If the Prime Minister would please understand, we view the need to be armed. Many treaties have been signed, many talks spoken; only to be betrayed seconds later, by the murder of our ambassadors. Please understand, that we need to be armed, so that we may defend the White Chief.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi

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Issues? The Chancellor didn't base a damn thing on the issues, but rather his relationship with an Emperor. I'll say that's a rather emotional responce from y'all.

Richard Montgomery Lee
Sergeant Major of the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi

To the principle white chief of the Tsalagi,

Primarily we ask you to control your military,
We are happy to discuss things with a national representative
but if you expect us to negotiate with

"Richard Montgomery Lee
Sergeant Major of the Tsalagi Danuwa analahi"

A non commisioned officer you insult us!

However, to get back to the point, all things are open to discussion as long as all parties are in the talks, unfortunately in such a situation, if one belligerent opts not to join then the talks fail.

We Further emphasise that while this is negotiable the lack of arms is important if such talks are to take place in such a small country as ours. We have pride in our military, while small they are specially trained, and we would be most upset if any nation thought they could play fast and loose within our boundaries. In addition we could always call on the support of friendly nations within the SP or maybe even the UN to ensure any proposals were conducted peacefully!

Mister Prime Minister, Sergeant Lee is a soldier. A Warrior. While his methods are, unique, they get the job done. However, he will not be negotiating. The White Chief, Tsisquilasda, will do so. Tsisquilasda is a peaceful man, and wishes only for this conflict to end without a shot fired.

Mister Prime Minister, please understand however: That we wish to end this peacefully, but we cannot afford to let our guard down. The White Chief's guards, must be armed. We will not let our White Chief, go into a potental suicide mission.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi

There is no place for negotiations until the notorious sexual deviant Lord Goobergunch calls off his attack on the Byzantine League. This war was initiated by Goobergunchia, only he can prevent bloodshed.

Dominus Magnus, high priest of the church of Dominion

sorry this has just gotten patheticaly rediculous, Look, I am in complience with the Resolution now, only muttering to my self as to how much it sucks, last I checked there i not UN resolution saying I can't be bumed out to having to follow some of them.

The military forces of the United Socialist States of Rojo Cubana have been mobilized to assist and defend The Byzantine League against the unwarranted show of force by Goobergunchia. Our naval, ground and air forces are standing at the ready and will wage unlimited war if need be.

Francisco Mendoza
Minister of Defense
U.S.S.R.C.

We agree totally with 'We are all Humanoids' and we of myrulesia would like to offer my own sercuity guards to help keep these talk peacefull.

we believe all hostile actions are illegal under the UN legislation, as we understand it there has not be a resolution to enfore the UN rules

As it has been stated before to join the UN is not compulsuryand you may leave at any time


king J of myrulesia

It has come to my attention, that The Byzantine League, has submitted to the hostile threats made by Goobergunchia. Therefor, this Conflict has come to an end. However, Goobergunchia's actions do not go unseen. The Tsalagi will place Political Pressure on Goobergunchia, untill their current government changes. We recommend all other nations to do the same.

Tawodi Watie
Principle Chief of the Tsalagi